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Hove To
by MC Carpenter 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

a good part, from hove to in breaking seas, it is also very good at waiting out weather when going a new port of call, the trick of course is to stay in the slick, if you run in front of it you lose that protection, sometimes that requires a streaming aft lines. My Islander 36 did real well with just a three reefed main (shaped like a trysail)and storm jib for balance. Mike

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Cruising equipment ideas
by Jon Martin 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

Hi All - I am hoping to participate in the week long San Juan cruise next summer in my M15. I've never done this before, and am thinking it would be a good way to get started with a group. I am wondering about specific equipment that one should have, and other equipment that would be nice to have - such as anchor/rode recomendations, lighting (I don't have a battery and would rather not get one), water and fuel amounts, other safety equiopment, etc. I have a hand held VHF radio and a compass - what else should I be thinking of to get ready? My plan is to have everything ready by April or so, and spend a few nights on the Columbia River to get familiar with anchoring/sleeping etc. Thanks, Jon Martin in Walla Walla _________________________________________________________________ Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Re: M_Boats: heaving to
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

I'd say that is a safe statement.

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Re: M_Boats: heaving too (man overboard drill)
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

Thanks Tom...that's what I meant.

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Re: M_Boats: ballast
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

Tom, Welcome to the real world. Some boats don't "heave to" well regardless of what you do. Did you have the jib sheeted in close? Was the cb down? It could have been the sea and wind conditions, etc.. Bill

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intention to produce a more stiff boat
by MC Carpenter 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

Is it the intention or an after though of design that when the centerboard is lowered it would make the sailboat a more stiff sailing vessel.

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Centerboard replacement
by MC Carpenter 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

Dik, After having the board out of the trunk and checking all the possible ways to make it long lasting and better to upkeep I am going with a board of slightly different dimensions and made of Stainless Steel with Teflon bearings and powder coated white.Stainless wire halyard to a winch drum (then bottom paint) Mark has flattop, and has some great pictures Mike

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RE: M_Boats: heaving too (man overboard drill)
by Smith, Tom 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

I take it Bill means every boat is different when it comes to heaving too, and quite possibly heaves too differently depending on the conditions. For example, our M15 will heave too in all conditions--from light to heavy winds--but I have to trim the sails and adjust the tiller based on wind strength and swells. I just had to fiddle with it until I learned the different quirks. It's a very handy tactic when the ice chest and beer is slightly out of reach, or when you have to use the wooden bucket, or when you want to tidy a few lines up. I also heave too in my man overboard drills. I carry a big fender that I occasionally toss overboard and then practice retrieving. I'll immediately go on to a broad reach, keep that course for a count of 5 seconds, then heave too (this works on nearly every point of sail). I can drift right back down on the fender almost every time... t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: Rusty Knorr [mailto:mazemusic@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:52 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: ballast Welcome to the real world? What is that supposed to mean? -R. --- Wcpritchett(a)aol.com wrote: > Tom, > > Welcome to the real world. Some boats don't "heave > to" well regardless of > what you do. Did you have the jib sheeted in close? > Was the cb down? It could > have been the sea and wind conditions, etc.. > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > ===== "In a power boat you may get there faster, but in a sailboat you are already there." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats This message was scanned for viruses!!

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Re: M_Boats: Heaving to
by Steve R. 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

Hi Rusty, I tried it several times without success in light air at my local lake. It worked like a charm in slightly stronger winds at the CBR. Not sure if wind speed is a factor or if it just takes some time to get the hang of it. I pinch and slow the boat down as much as possible before that final tack. I think I luff the main slightly. I have to tie the tiller off at an extreme angle, the tiller extension in the lock box does not give enough of an angle. You can also heave to with the main eased if the jib comes down, but that is another story. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY --- Rusty Knorr <mazemusic(a)yahoo.com> wrote: ... So, there are M-15 sailers out there who have put there boat hove to with no problems? -Rusty ...

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Re: M_Boats: ballast
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

Connie, I stand corrected and a humble apology to all for being generic with the term "heave to". For those who don't know, it is technically defined as using sails or motor to keep the bow into the wind…however, the term is most commonly used by cruising folks as keeping the bow into the wind under any method. With that said, on small boats, sails and a lashed tiller WON'T always work or "calm" it down when the seas get huge and the wind is piping. Thinking otherwise could be bad for your health. A drogue off the bow can do a lot to help at this point. I kept up with Roth's travels for years and read most, if not all, of the books published. His adventures are interesting and fun reading. If you read other pubs (before and after Roth's time) they reflect the same seamanship methods. Roth is surely competent but don't forget he drug anchor for about 10 miles one night from choosing the wrong anchor (Exmua Islands, Bahamas - CQR plow). He was lucky it drug away from land or the boat would have been lost. Even Hal makes mistakes. Bill

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