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Oar Leathers
by Howard A 15 Feb '02

15 Feb '02

Here's a question I've not seen posted before. How, exactly, do you install the buttons on oar leathers? I've only seen one oar with leathers on it, and they laced the leather on, then wrapped the button around the top end and nailed it down. It didn't look right to me, but maybe that's how it's done. Howard

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Re: M_Boats: Oar Leathers
by Steve R 15 Feb '02

15 Feb '02

Good question Howard. Let me ask another... what is the purpose of oar leathers? I have seen references to them, but I am puzzled. Do they go between your hands and the oars or the oars and the oar locks? Also has anyone mounted oar locks on a M-15? Thanks in advance, Steve R. Montgomery 15 #119 Lexington, KY --- Howard A <haudsley(a)tranquility.net> wrote: >Here's a question I've not seen posted before. > >How, exactly, do you install the buttons on oar leathers? I've only seen >one oar with leathers on it, and they laced the leather on, then wrapped >the button around the top end and nailed it down. It didn't look right >to me, but maybe that's how it's done. > >Howard > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Tom Smith 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

This sounds like a great idea for jib and genoa sheet stowage on the windward side. I've contemplated permanent attachment points for canvas bags, but I like the idea of not drilling holes. I'll look at this.... Tom Smith and Jane Van Winkle M15/345 -- Chukar Sandpoint, Idaho I found some bags made out of a coated net material with suction cups that hold quite well on the cockpit backrest. I stick my GPS in there. See WEST catalog page 377 "Sticky Pockets" under Storage Solutions. I used the teak binocular holder - WEST item No. 126294 (4 drink/binocular holder) page 373. I cut it so that it was narrower on the bottom than at the top in order to give the main sheet a bit of clearance. It has worked fine - no design changes needed Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Saltm17＠aol.com 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Connie, Do you have any pics of the lower hatchboard? John Miss T M17 # 372

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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Conbert H Benneck 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Randy, I found some bags made out of a coated net material with suction cups that hold quite well on the cockpit backrest. I stick my GPS in there. See WEST catalog page 377 "Sticky Pockets" under Storage Solutions. I used the teak binocular holder - WEST item No. 126294 (4 drink/binocular holder) page 373. I cut it so that it was narrower on the bottom than at the top in order to give the main sheet a bit of clearance. It has worked fine - no design changes needed Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Conbert H Benneck 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Randy, The hatchboard I built that has the binocular and radio holder is 6 1/2" high. I can't tell you what the size of the lower hatchboard is because it is on the boat which is buried under it's winter cover. It could well be that I kept it as low as possible - while still fulfilling it's other functions - to make getting in and out of the cabin easy. Give me a yell in Spring when I get the cover off and then I can give you all the dimensions. Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Randy Watkins 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Connie a question- on your extra lower hatch that you use for stowage, is it the same height as the other lowest hatch board? I made an extra one also and mounted my compass and will add some type of bag or something to hold my gps and vhf. The other 2 boars can fit on top land I can leave in place. Does anyone have a suggestion on a bag for a gps. Randy W. M15#194 >>> chbenneck(a)juno.com 02/14/02 11:04AM >>> Tod, When I rebuilt my hatchboards on LEPPO, I made them in three pieces. After using them for the past years, I still like my three piece hatchboards. You have smaller parts to stow. I built a new lower hatchboard which has a binocular holder (doubles as the beer can holder when the binoculars are not in use); and a holder for my small Grundig radio (held in place with a small bungee cord and hook). This makes a very nice arrangement. Music and drinks readily at hand while sailing. Yes, you do have to step over it to go below; but it is - even with everything in place - not too heavy to lift out if you want easier access to the cabin. I also use the lower regular hatchboard as the base to hold my companionway table. If you just have two hatchboards, then the table will be too high for ease of use. Connie M15 #400 LEPPO ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Conbert H Benneck 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Tod, When I rebuilt my hatchboards on LEPPO, I made them in three pieces. After using them for the past years, I still like my three piece hatchboards. You have smaller parts to stow. I built a new lower hatchboard which has a binocular holder (doubles as the beer can holder when the binoculars are not in use); and a holder for my small Grundig radio (held in place with a small bungee cord and hook). This makes a very nice arrangement. Music and drinks readily at hand while sailing. Yes, you do have to step over it to go below; but it is - even with everything in place - not too heavy to lift out if you want easier access to the cabin. I also use the lower regular hatchboard as the base to hold my companionway table. If you just have two hatchboards, then the table will be too high for ease of use. Connie M15 #400 LEPPO ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Randy Watkins 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Todd, I installed new hatch boards on my M15 and went with three. That's the set up now used by the factory. I think it's the same with the M17. Regards, Randy & Greta Watkins >>> htmills(a)bright.net 02/13/02 10:03PM >>> Thanks for the link, Russ.....I wasn't familiar with that windvane. On my old computer I didn't see anything about a tiller tamer but that wouldn't be the first time. I'll check the site out tomorrow on the work 'puter. Regarding hatchboards. I was at a lumberyard this afternoon getting some wood for the self-steering oar and also bought some plywood for new hatchboards. My present hatchboards are painted on the outside because, I'm told, the veneer was damaged at some point in its life. They measure 3/8" thick and look like teak? and are in two pieces. The new plywood I bought is ash, much lighter. (thought I'd try something different; not sure how I'll like it) I carelessly assumed they were only 1/4" and that's what I bought, except that it only measures in at 3/16". This happy little accident of fate means that I can take two thicknesses and laminate them together with the best face on BOTH sides out. (actually, both faces were pretty good, but one is better). I plan to seal them with epoxy and then coat that with varnish. What I'm wondering is this: should I repeat the arrangement with two hatchboards or....should I go with three and have the third, bottom one with some holders on it for gps, radio, etc? I would like a board with holders, but maybe that should be a separate piece altogether that I'd take out to button up? One drawback would be that a lower hatchboard would make it harder for my crewmembers and me, to a much lesser extent, to come and go from the cabin. Any thoughts? Thanks, Tod _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Sheet-to-Tiller Steering
by stevemc35＠attbi.com 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Can someone explain to me the theory and practice of so called "Sheet to Tiller" steering? I've heard it mentioned but have never seen it and am not sure how it works. Is it a sort of "poor man's self-steering mechanism"? Does it really work? -- Steve McClellan 1981 M15 #152 stevemc35(a)attbi.com

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