November 2002 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Florida Keys
by Saltm17＠aol.com 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

The Keys are calling! I'm taking "Miss T" to the upper Florida Keys (Key Largo to Marathon, more or less) probably for two weeks, starting the Monday after Thanksgiving. Everyone free to make the trip, or any part of it, are sure welcome to come along. Just let me know, and we'll meet up somewhere. John Edwards Miss T M17 # 372

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Another centerboard problem
by Bud Holzschuh 24 Nov '02

24 Nov '02

I have just acquired a 1983 Montgomery 15. Boat is in fine condition with one exception - the centerboard is not installed and there appears to be no way to do so !!! I tried to attach a picture but sig won't take so here is a short description of centerboard: 32" long 17.5" at widest point weighs 33 lbs exactly There is a hole in the board for the pennant line but no hole for the pivot !! It appears to be glassed over (quite professionally!) There is also no hole in the centerboard trunk to hold a pin and no hole for a stop pin either! (Guy just couldn't stop glassing!) So here's the problem - the holes must be re-drilled -- but where??? Seems like some precise measurements are needed for both centerboard and trunk holes. Also what size bolt/pin ?? What size line is used for the pennant? Looks like 1/4 to 5/16 from the pennant hole(s). Also I have heard about a stop pin. Necessary? function? Any help muchly appreciated Cheers Bud Holzschuh __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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Re: M_Boats: Florida Keys
by Saltm17＠aol.com 24 Nov '02

24 Nov '02

Maria, Sounds good. Currently my very loose plan is to get most of the way to the keys on Monday and then go on to Key Largo on Tuesday. How does Monday evening sound as a possibility of meeting for dinner? John Edwards

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Re: M_Boats: Another centerboard problem
by Steve R 24 Nov '02

24 Nov '02

Bud, There is a blob of putty on my keel where it was repaired. The hole may be as large as 3/4 of an inch. The center of the blob is 16 and 1/4 inches back from where the keel meets the hull. I held my rule along the top of the keel. The center of the blob is 2 and 5/8 inches below the hull. I made this measurement from where the hull is flat, that is above the fillet between the keel and hull. The center of the blob is 6 and 7/8 inches from the bottom of the keel. HOWEVER, the bottom is really not all the way to the bottom. I took my carpenters rule, and twisted the end segment so that it was at a 90 degree angle. I held this section flat against the vertical face of the keel, and held the rest of the rule up against the curved bottom of the keel. I moved the slide out to the center of the blob. I then transferred the setting to a note pad, and measured the distance to the mark on the pad. I forgot to measure the line size. Let us know how things go. Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington,KY --- Bud Holzschuh <schuh8(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >I have just acquired a 1983 Montgomery 15. Boat is in >fine condition with one exception - the centerboard is >not installed and there appears to be no way to do so >!!!

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Re: M_Boats: Another centerboard problem
by Steve R 23 Nov '02

23 Nov '02

Hi Bud, I cant say I have done this, but this is my idea for how to proceed. First make a template of the centerboard from something like corrugated cardboard, thin plywood or masonite. Next, drill a small diameter hole through one side of the keel, and part way into the other side of the keel. Then, put the template in the slot and drill through it. Check to see if the template pivots up and down. If it does, great. If not, patch the small holes and start over. By not drilling all the way through to the other side of the keel, you have only one cosmetic repair. Once the holes are in the right place, drill out the holes in the keel and use the template to locate the hole in the centerboard. Use something to back up the exit holes to prevent chipping. I would do what ever it takes to get a drill bit long enough to go through the keel so the hole can be drilled from one side. That way, you could be certain that the pivot pin will go through both sides of the keel. I hope to go to the lake this afternoon. :) If so, I should be able to get you a location for where the pin goes through the keel. There is putty applied to a hole on both sides of my keel from a previous owner's repair. I do not know the size of the pin but I can make a guess at it. As far as the stop pin, I think that is associated with the keel of the M-17. There is a stopper knot in the M-15 pennant. Ill try to remember to measure the line also. Good luck, Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY --- Bud Holzschuh <schuh8(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >I have just acquired a 1983 Montgomery 15. Boat is in >fine condition with one exception - the centerboard is >not installed and there appears to be no way to do so >!!! > > (snip) > >There is a hole in the board for the pennant line but >no hole for the pivot !! It appears to be glassed over >(quite professionally!) There is also no hole in the >centerboard trunk to hold a pin and no hole for a stop >pin either! (Guy just couldn't stop glassing!) > >So here's the problem - the holes must be re-drilled >-- but where??? Seems like some precise measurements >are needed for both centerboard and trunk holes. Also >what size bolt/pin ?? What size line is used for the >pennant? Looks like 1/4 to 5/16 from the pennant >hole(s). > > Also I have heard about a stop pin. Necessary? >function? > >Any help muchly appreciated > >Cheers >Bud Holzschuh > >

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Just a lull in time
by L Smith 20 Nov '02

20 Nov '02

Hi group....Been away for a while with 'puter problems and a new ISP........Missed everybody. Now, let's talk sailin'.. Lenny M-23 Sea Horse

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Montgomery Owners' Newsletter
by Honshells 19 Nov '02

19 Nov '02

Would anyone with back issues of the Montgomery Owner's Newsletter be willing to photocopy and mail them? I would, of course, reimburse you for this service. Thanks!

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Re: M_Boats: Lightning arrestors
by Wilsometer＠aol.com 19 Nov '02

19 Nov '02

In a message dated 11/17/02 8:26:50 PM, winarski(a)cox.net writes: << Has anyone installed a lightning arrestor ? There appears to be nothing on this in the archives. Stan Winarski M-15, #177, Carol II >> Stan, I have one of the Forespar lightning dissipaters installed at the masthead of my M15. It is a stainless rod about 12" long with thousands of thin stainless 'hairs' emanating from the tip. It is supposed to bleed off electrical potential. I also have a lightning ground system consisting of two very large gauge welding cables with lugs/copper pipe sections on one end (that trail in the water--one on each side of the boat) and lugs on the other end. These lugs are attached to bolts via wing nuts to tangs on either side of the mast tabernacle (they share the bolt that secures the mast). The cables are only deployed when the threat of lightning is immanent. Lightning is infrequent in the San Francisco bay area. I put this system together for sailing in Sierra lakes where afternoon thunderstorms are more common. I can't attest to the effectiveness of the Forespar unit, but then again I have never been hit! Scott Grometer, M15#478 'bebe'

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Entreprenuers' Alert
by Honshells 19 Nov '02

19 Nov '02

I contacted Marine Concepts regarding the Rob Roy 23' and was told that the boat is no longer in production and the molds are up for sale. Same goes for the Sunseeker 23', same hull and sailplan as Rob Roy, only with cuddy cabin and huge cockpit.

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Lightning arrestors
by Stanley Winarski 18 Nov '02

18 Nov '02

Has anyone installed a lightning arrestor ? There appears to be nothing on this in the archives. Stan Winarski M-15, #177, Carol II

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