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bring the beat back & unknown WTIL edit download
by Simon Glass 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

OK for Maarten and anyone else who is interested here is the tracklist for the 'Bring the Beat Back' CD-R bootleg I think this was *ahem* 'released' around 1997-98 and came on a blank blue cd-r in a card sleeve, printed sticker with the title and a nice little black inner sleeve but no other info/tracklist 1. WTIL (Power mix) 2. WTIL (Primal remix) 3. WTIL (Techno Slam mix) 4. WTIL (Pure Trance mix) 5. WTIL (Unknown edit - see below) 6. WTIL (DMC or similar mix - see below) 7. J&A (Anti-Accapella mix) 8. 3AM Eternal (feat ENT) 9. Madrugada Eterna (Club mix) 10.America WTIL (KLF92promo2 mix AKA What Time is January) I sometimes get the Primal & Techno slam mixes the wrong way around so just in case, the former has an intro before the 2001 sample, the latter starts with the sample and is generally 'slammier'! I also don't have 004T to hand so track 4 is the mix with a beat. Track 6 is the DMC or similar DJ remix that starts "What Time Is Love W-W-What Time Is Love Love" or whatever...not great. Track 5 is the aforementioned unknown edit i have never seen or heard elsewhere. Thomas, some time ago I shared this with the AudioGalaxy KLF group and you suggested it was the Power mix edit, but it's not! (incidentally the Power mix edit is an interesting track and quite different to the full mix IIRC). This edit has similarities with the Power, Monster Attack and Live at the Land of Oz mixes with similar (but different) 'live' drums, but is quite intense in it's tweaking and phasing if you turn up the volume. Accordingly I have uploaded it for people to check out, and have called it the evil (almost live!) edit, just for the hell of it: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E39G8NIO ...is a WAV directly from the CD-R which my current computer drive seemed to manage OK sans the distortion i mentioned before (i had to do a bit of splicing due to the wonky track splits i mentioned). The distortion is possibly still present on the cymbal/hi-hat sounds as they sound a bit lispy, and there is a little background hiss at the end so if anyone feels the inclination to clean this up and probably do a better job than i could, please go for it For those lazy f*ckers, dial-up kids or those with only a mild interest here is an MP3: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IM5YMBZA I would be interested to see what people think as I love this version...simple but effective, retaining the signature of the 004T mixes but a bit more varied and scary =) tbc. --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.

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RE: [KLF] 3AM on The White Room OST?
by Thomas Touzimsky 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

> Well the edit i referred to is indeed > track 2 on this old TWROST cassette, > but i was curious as to why this wasn't > included on the klf.de 'remastered' > version of the album...i thought perhaps > it didn't really belong on the album as > it doesn't seem to fit somehow...any > ideas Thomas? as you guys obviously left > it out for some reason... Honestly, the only two versions I am aware of is the original edit included on KLF005R and the mix that already seemed to be included on the old TWROST bootleg CD, which is almost identical but has Bill repeating Maxine's lines every now and then ("Sometimes I feel I almost know" etc) and that was the version that had been included on the studio DAT. Could someone please upload that "UK Edit" so we can have a listen? With the DOWNLOAD section finally coming this month, I would be happy to host the file for the public. > PS - On another note, this cassette > includes the 1990 demo version of 3AM > amongst its 'bonus' tracks and i was > wondering when this first appeared, as > i seem to remember reading somewhere > that the tapes for this were stolen in > autumn 1990? or was it just abandoned? One of the bootlegs lists it as "Aug 1990 demo", and I think that date should be quite accurate. ..::// Thomas

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RE: [KLF] bring the beat back & unknown WTIL edit download
by Thomas Touzimsky 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

> Track 6 is the DMC or similar DJ remix > that starts "What Time Is Love W-W-What > Time Is Love Love" or whatever... Cease Fire remix maybe...? > Track 5 is the aforementioned unknown > edit i have never seen or heard > elsewhere. Thomas, some time ago I shared > this with the AudioGalaxy KLF group and > you suggested it was the Power mix edit, > but it's not! Now that I am older and (maybe) wiser, I can hear it, too. The Power Mix has more drums and toms indeed. Still can't identify this particular mix, although it could be that someone just took the Pure Trance mix and added a drum loop over it. Yet there is some variation in it, so whoever did that put some work into it - or it really is from some obscure source we don't know about. ..::// Thomas

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RE: [KLF] 3AM on The White Room OST?
by John Milne 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

>From what I understand, there's the "Edit" (a cut version of KLF5T a-side) which appears as track 2 of TWROST, and there's the "UK Edit" (a fully released version, track 1 side 1 of KLF5R). The "Edit" is just a cut-down version of the original "Pure Trance", but the "UK Edit" is quite different, with a different beat - it's more an edit of the "Break For Love" mix, also with elements of the Moody Boys 1989 original. It's this "UK Edit" which appears on the "Vitamin E" CD, seemingly mastered from vinyl. Which version is track 2 on your (possibly) Dutton cassette, Simon? Is the "UK Edit" one of the extra tracks, or part of the actually album tracks > Message Received: Jan 15 2007, 12:38 AM > From: "Simon Glass" <tygerbc(a)yahoo.com> > To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > Cc: > Subject: [KLF] 3AM on The White Room OST? > > > i recently unearthed one of my old TWROST cassettes, i think it might be a Dutton creation as it has the cartoonised 'why sheep?' pic and some extra tracks, and i had forgotten that it also includes an edit of one of the Pure Trance mixes of 3AM, which seems a little out of place...i think it might be the edit that features on one of the old rave compilations John mentioned recently > > more recent tidied-up 'versions' of the album didn't include this so what's the deal? was it intended to be included? > > i want to make an extended CD of TWROST and it would be nice to include 3AM but i am tempted to go for Thomas' cleaned up/remixed 1990 demo, which kinda bridges the gap nicely between TWROST and the 1991 release of The White Room > > tbc. > > > --------------------------------- > The fish are biting. > Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.

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ebay stuff
by Simon Glass 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

this ended recently: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KLF-THE-MASHES-OF-MU-MU-VERY-RARE-MASH-UP-MIX_W0QQite… nothing new as far as i can see but interesting someone made the effort to compile it and give it a proper cover. not sure some of the remixers will be too ecstatic though. there was also one up for bids which oddly went for a couple of quid more i think one for the completists anyway! tbc. --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.

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help me!
by Elliott 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

I need some help, i have been checking through some more of my records to sell on ebay against the KLF.de list, first my 'KLF 008R LTTT 5' says 1989 and the tracks just say, a side:remix 1& b side:remix 2. On the web site it says 1990, 1 remix and the original. I dont have a record player anymore so i cannot listen to them. And my 3 am Pure Trance 2 'KLF 005T' is dated 1988. Who out of you, has these and can check for me?, if you have any spare time that is. Many thanks in advance Elliott.

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Re: [KLF] KLF Greatest Hits
by John Milne 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

> as for Gary Glitter - i'd vote for not including that c**t - but i'd > like to see Dotorin' represented somehow - how about the mix from > Shag Times, it's one of my favourite tracks, and is a lot more Doctor > than Glitter Ah, but which mix from Shag Times? There's the radio edit and the minimal remix (which is great), remember. I'm always fond of the "video edit" from the Video CD single, which is a bit more obscure but is the version from the video. It's shorter, which leaves more room on the CD for other things, it's arguably the most Glitter-less of all, and as its the video-length version, it's the one many people remember fondly. > for the copies that are dropped in places like HMV and Virgin, we > could find something absolutely horrific that's been released and > copy it's barcode - potentially sending it to number one despite not > actually shifting that many units :) although, tbh, that's probably > unlikely As I said, I reckon if if there's any shameless 40-years-of-Sgt-Peppers CDs brought out by the Beatles' accountants around that time, maybe we should do some barcode filching with that. Alternatively, maybe a barcode from a rare KLF release - JAMSCD4 or something. Imagine "The What Time is Love Story" in the top twenty in May 2007! :-)

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Re: [KLF] KLF Greatest Hits
by John Milne 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

The "FREE - take me home" sticker is a great idea (didn't someone else do a "Steal This Record" thing a few years ago; Crass or Chumbawamba or someone like that?) Anyway, I'm really excited that we come up with something good that's a goer! An upbeat and downbeat CD set is a good idea too. > Message Received: Jan 15 2007, 07:57 AM > From: "Elliott" <blindedbythedarkness(a)ntlworld.com> > To: john(a)highlandland.fsnet.co.uk, "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Cc: > Subject: Re: [KLF] KLF Greatest Hits > > Great idea about bar codes for HMV and the like, it would mean people might > be able to buy them because i dont think many KLF'ers would try to steal > them, unless they have a sticker on saying 'FREE please take me home'... > We could also leave some in coffee shops for people to take, just tell them > its a free promotion, they have those crappy hairdresser flyers. > How about a chilled out remix cd and a more ravey remix cd? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Milne" <john(a)highlandland.fsnet.co.uk> > To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:30 PM > Subject: Re: [KLF] KLF Greatest Hits > > > > > >> as for Gary Glitter - i'd vote for not including that c**t - but i'd > >> like to see Dotorin' represented somehow - how about the mix from > >> Shag Times, it's one of my favourite tracks, and is a lot more Doctor > >> than Glitter > > > > Ah, but which mix from Shag Times? There's the radio edit and the minimal > > remix (which is great), remember. I'm always fond of the "video edit" > > from the Video CD single, which is a bit more obscure but is the version > > from the video. It's shorter, which leaves more room on the CD for other > > things, it's arguably the most Glitter-less of all, and as its the > > video-length version, it's the one many people remember fondly. > > > >> for the copies that are dropped in places like HMV and Virgin, we > >> could find something absolutely horrific that's been released and > >> copy it's barcode - potentially sending it to number one despite not > >> actually shifting that many units :) although, tbh, that's probably > >> unlikely > > > > As I said, I reckon if if there's any shameless 40-years-of-Sgt-Peppers > > CDs brought out by the Beatles' accountants around that time, maybe we > > should do some barcode filching with that. Alternatively, maybe a barcode > > from a rare KLF release - JAMSCD4 or something. Imagine "The What Time is > > Love Story" in the top twenty in May 2007! :-) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KLF mailing list > > KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf > > Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com > > >

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RE: [KLF] KLF Greatest Hits
by charlie＠charlieflint.com 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

I love this idea, and am prepared to help get it out here in the US. That said, I have an opposing view on the Gary Glitter stuff. He's a scumbag. He's evil. He's rotting in prison... But I'd hate to see what I consider a classic from the KLF catalog get dropped because of what he did. If it were HIS record, that'd be one thing, but its the KLF "liberating" the sample and turning it into something better. Frankly, I like the idea of making a sample with dubious lineage "ours" again. To paraphrase Clerks II: "We're taking Rock N' Roll Part I back, man." But that's just my take. I'm still mortified when I go to a football game and they actually play Rock N' Roll Part I (the actual Gary Glitter tune) over the PA. Inevitably followed by a Michael Jackson song. Do they not realize...? Charlie

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RE: [KLF] KLF Greatest Hits --> Bring the beat back cd-r
by Maarten Bouwes 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

>>for my part i have an otherwise unidentified edit of WTIL from the old 'bring the beat back' bootleg CD compilation...similar to the monster attack and power remixes but >>not the same. Oh shit, you've got one...! You are the first on this list mentioning this cd. Way back there was an advert in the RC by a little recordshop selling two KLF items; a cdr of the original white room and a cd called 'bring the beat back'. I ordered that last one but never received it. The seller told me that some cd's got mixed up in the promotors office and that he was sending me a TWR cd instead of a BTBB cd.. 'if I ever get more of this BTBB cd's, you'll be the first to receive one..' It's been a while :) What tracks are on this cd? Do they differ? I just NEED to know.. Maarten _________________________________________________________________ Probeer Live.com: je eigen persoonlijke opstartpagina met alleen de dingen die jij belangrijk vindt op één plek. http://www.live.com/getstarted

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