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Re: [Fractint] FOTD 11-02-02 (Mandelbrot-03 [5])
by Multiple Bogeys 15 Feb '02

15 Feb '02

>I have never really understood what causes these ghostly high- >iteration remnants of the unperturbed M-set to remain in the >background of the perturbed sets. I have read explanations >explaining that the foreground in images like today's is complex >material, while the background is real material, but this >doesn't really make sense. My own guess is that regardless of >where the iterated points start their travels, if they don't >escape first, they will eventually settle into the same orbits >as the points that start at 0,0. That's exactly what happens. There's only the two critical points, infinity and 0, and infinity is always superattracting. Under the Sullivan theorem there can only be one other attractor at most, and it then has to capture 0. So the non-escaping points, if they exist, go to a finite attractor and then 0 goes to that attractor too.Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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Re: [Fractint] FOTD 28-01-02 (Sandy Bottom [5])
by Multiple Bogeys 15 Feb '02

15 Feb '02

>> Why don't they just filter out MS Outlook? :)Get more >> from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >> http://explorer.msn.com > And use MSN instead? ;-) > David happily using Pegasus Mail Don't have much choice here, since the only other interfaces to Hotmail are Outlook (blech) and the Web interface (double bletch, and can't save messages locally). And hotmail is the only free email provider that's reasonably stable over years. And a non-free email address can't be risked on usenet or a mailing list, since it can't be thrown away and replaced easily if it gets too much spam or some loser decides to mailbomb it...Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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Re: [Fractint] re Fractint on Win2000 - The Kludge.....
by Multiple Bogeys 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

>> > Hopefully if all went according to Hoyle you will have a fractint.cfg >> file... >> >>If all went according to who? >Edmond Hoyle (1671-1769), generally known for his pretty much definitive >rules for various card games. That is not logical. Hoyle died in 1769, but Fractint config files did not exist until sometime after 1980. Therefore, Hoyle cannot have written anything about them. :-)Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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FOTD 13-02-02 (Stained Glass Window [9])
by Jim Muth 13 Feb '02

13 Feb '02

FOTD -- February 13, 2002 (Rating 9) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: The FOTD CD is progressing nicely. Of the 70 or so odd months of FOTD's that will be on the disk, 3 months are already finished. At this rate, if nothing goes wrong, (which probably will happen), I could have the disk ready before the end of the year. Today's image is an old one, which I created back in 1997. Looking at it, with its warmly glowing effect of being illuminated from within, I wonder how much, if at all, my images have improved in the past five years, especially since I became obsessed with an endless series of Mandelbrot midgets. I have named the image "Stained Glass Window" for its effect of sunlight streaming through a church window at sunset. I rated the image a 9 because it is worth that lofty rating. The render time of 11 seconds is a great demonstration that good fractals need not take a long time to render. It will take several times that long to go online and download the completed image from Paul's web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> or from Scott's site at: <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html> The fractal weather Tuesday here at Fractal Central was uneventful, though the cats, who were dis-satisfied, must have considered uneventful weather too harsh. The hazy sun, moderate winds, and temperature of 52F 11C kept them confined to the porch, waiting for the sun, which at this time of year almost but not quite tops the holly trees around midday. An afternoon dish of tuna eased their discomfort. My discomfort will be eased when the day's work is finished and the FOTD CD is ready. It will take about 5 hours to finish the day's work, and closer to 500 hours to finish the CD, but the only way to finish is to start. So until next FOTD, take care, and be patient. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ StainedGlassWindow { ; time=0:00:11.27--SF5 on a P200 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=jim.frm formulaname=Mytest08c function=cotan passes=1 center-mag=0/1.55431e-015/0.6577505 params=2/0/0/1\ /0/2 float=y maxiter=500 bailout=100 inside=bof60 logmap=yes symmetry=xyaxis periodicity=10 colors=000G00C00Q00Q00Z00W00`00`00a00a00b00b00d00d\ 00e00e00g00g00i00i00j00j00k00k00m00m00n00n00o00o00\ p00p00r00r00s00s00t00t00u00u00u00w00w50x50x50y50y5\ 0zP0zU0zY0z`0ze0zg0zk0zo0zo0zn0zl0zk0zg0zf0zd0zb0z\ W0zW0zW0zW0zW0zO0zO0zO0zO0zO0zO0zL0zL0zJ0zF0zF0z50\ z50zF0z50zF0zF0zF0zF0zO0zW0zW0zW0zW0zW0zX0zX0zW0zW\ 0zW0zW0zU0zU0zU0zR0zR0zR0zT0zR0zR0zP0zP0zW0z00z00z\ 00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00z00y00y00x00x00w00w00u00\ u00t00t00s00s00r00r00p00p00o00o00n00n00m00m00k00k0\ 0j00j00i00i00g00g00e00e00d00d00b00b00a00a00`00`00Z\ 00Z00X00X00W00W00V00V00T00T00R00R00Q00Q00O00O00M00\ M00K00K00I00I00G00G00E00E00C00C00A00A0070070050050\ 0200200000000000000000000000000L00M00M00O00O00Q00Q\ 00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00\ Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q0\ 0Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00Q00 } frm:Mytest08c {; Jim Muth z=fn1(pixel), a=real(p3), b=imag(p3), c=a+(b*pixel): z=(((z^p1)*z)^p2)^(-p2)+c, |z|<=100 } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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Which (if any) of the display modes work with ATI All-in-wonder 128
by DalesMicro＠aol.com 12 Feb '02

12 Feb '02

I recemtly purchased the above board but none of the VESA drivers work with it, are there any that doo? Thanks, Dale Denham

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FOTD 11-02-02 (Mandelbrot-03 [5])
by Jim Muth 12 Feb '02

12 Feb '02

FOTD -- February 11, 2002 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Progress continues on the FOTD CD, which is cutting into my current fractal time, but I am still managing several FOTD's per week. Today's perturbed fractal, with its ghostly outline of a Mandelbrot bud in the background and a spectacular spiral in the foreground, is a return to the type of images I was doing 10 years ago. Well, it's not exactly like what I was doing ten years ago, since today's image would not have been possible back then. The maxiter of today's image is 300,000, while 10 years ago, Fractint's maximum maxiter was 32,767. I have never really understood what causes these ghostly high- iteration remnants of the unperturbed M-set to remain in the background of the perturbed sets. I have read explanations explaining that the foreground in images like today's is complex material, while the background is real material, but this doesn't really make sense. My own guess is that regardless of where the iterated points start their travels, if they don't escape first, they will eventually settle into the same orbits as the points that start at 0,0. The name of today's image -- Mandelbrot-03 -- is more of a catalog number than a true name. The rating of 5 is perfectly average. The render time is in the range of 5 minutes, which is bearable. And the pre-rendered GIF image can be downloaded from either of the following two web sites: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> or: <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html> The fractal weather Sunday was wet and chilly -- not the most enjoyable kind of weather for fractal cats. But the intrepid duo faced the adversity bravely, and came through the day with only minor complaints. As for myself, it's Monday morning and I've got a load of work waiting to be done, not to mention the work on that FOTD CD, which is in progress. Until the next FOTD arrives in a couple days, take care, and what happened to the public's fascination with fractals. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Mandelbrot-03 { ; time=0:05:40.98--SF5 on a P200 reset=2002 type=mandel passes=1 center-mag=-0.7527\ 0080049748840/-0.03833627883328024/20391.82/1/167.\ 5/8.22113627174658745e-011 params=0.6669953/0.6670\ 071 float=y maxiter=300000 inside=255 logmap=35 colors=0002hd3ge4ge5fe6ee6ee7df8cf9cfAbfAbfBafC`gD\ `gE_gE_gFZgGYgHYhIXhIXhJWhKVhLViMUiNTiNTiOSiPSiQRj\ RQjRQjSPjTPjUOjVNkVNkWMkXLkYLkZKlZKl_Jl`IlaIlbHlbH\ mcGmdFmeFmfEmfEmeFndFncFncFnbFnaFnaGn`Gn_GnZGnZGnY\ GnXHnXHnWHnVHnUHnUHnTInSInSInRInQInPInPJnOJnNJnNJn\ MJnLJnLKnKKnJKnIKnIKnHKnGLnGLnFLnELnDLnDLnCMnBMnBM\ nAMn9Mn8Mn8Nn7Nn6Nn6Nn5Nn4Nn2Oo4Nn6Nm8NlANkCMkEMjG\ MiIMhKLhMLgOLfQLeSKeUKdWKcYKbZKbYKaXK`WK_VKZUKYTKX\ SKWRKVQKUPKTOKSNKRMKQLKPKKOJKOLJMMJLOIJPIIQHGQHFRG\ DRGCSFBSF9TE8UE6WD5YD3_C2aC1`D2aD3bE3cF4dE4eF5eG5d\ G6dG6dH7dH7dI8dI9dI9dJAcKAcKBcLBcMCcNCcNDcODcPEbQF\ bRFbRGbSGbTHbUHbUIaWIaYJa_JaaKacLacL`cM`cM`cNaeNag\ OaiObkPbmPboQcqQcsPcuQdwSdxUdyWfzYhz_jzamzcozepzgq\ zirzkszmtzouzqvzswzuxzwyzyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz\ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz\ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz00I } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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FOTD 09-02-02 (Mandelbrot-02 [5])
by JimMuth＠aol.com 09 Feb '02

09 Feb '02

FOTD -- February 09, 2002 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: The job of preparing the FOTD CD grows ever more formidable. The current difficulties are caused by the total lack of uniformity of the early FOTD's. Due to bad line breaks, etc., many of the parameter files will no longer run, and need to be re-created from the original GIF images. Also, the size of the saved images is anything I was in the mood for at the time. The off-size images need to be re-rendered in the SF6 (800x600x256) format, which will be the standard size of the images on the CD. Luckily, when I realized that the FOTD would become a major project, I settled into a uniform style, but I still have a year or so of haphazard format to struggle through before I reach the easy part of the job. I'll keep everyone updated on the FOTD CD progress. Today we have another simple scene -- a midget deep in a spiral in the north branch of Scepter Valley of the Mandelbrot set. Due to the cursory coloring, the image rates an average 5. A better job of coloring would raise the rating to a 7. The render time of 6 minutes is a bit much to ask for a merely average image. The more efficient way to view the scene is to let Paul and Scott render the image and pick it up from one of their web sites. Paul's site is at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> and Scott's is at: <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html> The fractal weather Friday pleased the cats, who spent several hours on the porch, waiting for the sun to clear the holly trees and bathe them in solar radiance. Unfortunately, it will be a couple weeks before the sun angle grows high enough to rise above the trees and reach the porch. The temperature of 56F 13C made up for the lack of sun however. It's now time to get back on a bit of regular work, and when that is finished, to tackle the FOTD CD. Until next time, which will come in 2 or 3 days, take care, and see you then. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Mandelbrot-02 { ; time=0:06:41.62--SF5 on a P200 reset=2002 type=mandel passes=1 center-mag=-1.2509\ 72462419692/+0.01210087858951061/6.973531e+012/1/7\ 7.4231529028881766/0.0745775308943859988 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=35000 inside=0 logmap=-8850 colors=0000hzT7yR7xO6wM6vK5uI5tG4sG0rF1pF2nE3lF4jF\ 5hF5fF5cF6_F6WF6TF6PF6LF7HF7EF7AF76E50F62F73F74F85\ F96F98GA9GBAGBBGCCGDEGDFHEGHFHHFIHGJHHLHHMHINIJOIJ\ PIKRILSILTIMUJNVJNXJOYJPZJP_JQ`KQ_JQ`JQaJQbIQbIQcI\ QdHQeHQeHQfGQgGQhGQhFQiFQjENhFOiFPjFQjFQkGRkGSlGSl\ GTmHUmHVnHVnHWoIXoIXpIYpIZqJcqJhrJmrJmsEmtHmsJmsLh\ sNcrPZrSUrUPqWKqYFq_AqWFqSJqOOqKSqGXqC`q8eq5iqCdlJ\ `hQXcXT_cPVjLRpIMqHNqHNqHOqHOrKPrHPrHQrGQrGRsGRsGS\ sGSsGTwEVuFUtGUsGTrHTqHTpISoISnJSmJRkKRjKRiLQhLQgM\ QfNPeNPdOOcOOaPO`PN_QNZQNYRMXRMYSMZSL_TL`YEaWHbUJc\ TLdRNePPfORgMThKViJXjH_kGalEcmCenBgo9ip7kq6mr4os3q\ t4pu5ov6nw7nx7my8lz9lzAkzAjzBjzCizDhzDhzEgzFfzGfzG\ ezHdzIdzJczJbzKbzLazM`zOfzNdzNbzM`zM_zLYzLWzLUzKTz\ KRzJPzJNzGPzHOzINzJMzJMzKLzLKzMKzMJzNIzOHzPHzPGzQF\ zRFzSEzSDzTCzUCzVBzVAzWAzX9zY8zY7zZ7z_6z`5z`5za4zb\ 3zb3z`4zZ5zY6zW7zV8z9pz8q mathtolerance=/1 } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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Re: [Fractint] re Fractint on Win2000 - The Kludge.....
by Multiple Bogeys 08 Feb '02

08 Feb '02

> Hopefully if all went according to Hoyle you will have a fractint.cfg file... If all went according to who?Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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Re: [Fractint] FOTD 28-01-02 (Sandy Bottom [5])
by Multiple Bogeys 08 Feb '02

08 Feb '02

> At work, which is 4 miles away in downtown Ft. Worth, TX, the FOTD page for > January 2002 looked OK. I clicked on several FOTD links, and I got the text, > but not the images! At work, we're behind a firewall, but the images should > still get thru. They only filter out incoming email attachments, since they > use virus-prone MS Outlook. Why don't they just filter out MS Outlook? :)Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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FOTD 07-02-02 (Mandelbrot-01 [5])
by JimMuth＠aol.com 07 Feb '02

07 Feb '02

FOTD -- February 07, 2002 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Because the FOTD CD will be more work than I had originally estimated, I have decided to continue posting some new FOTD's, though not at the one-per-day rate. I will try however to post two or three new FOTD's per week. My spare time will be divided between working on the CD and posting new FOTD's. I will concentrate on the classic Mandelbrot set for my new FOTD images, since the built-in Mandelbrot formula is far faster than the type=formula fractals, and I will need all the time I can muster for the CD. Also, the Mandelbrot set is the world's richest fractal. The extra effort on the CD will be devoted to rewriting the many passages whose awkwardness has become obvious only long after I wrote them. And since I will need to sell the CD, it will need to have sufficient new material to make the product worth the yet-undetermined price. Luckily, I have ample never-posted material ready to be included. Of course, pictures of myself, Fractal Central, and the fractal cats will be included. It is too early to estimate when the CD will be ready, but I'll keep those on the lists posted. Today's image is a scene in a very high iteration spiral in a remote valley of the Mandelbrot set. It rates only an average 5, and has been given a catalog number rather than a name. The render time of 16 minutes can be avoided by downloading the completed GIF image from Paul's web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> or from Scott's site at: <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html> The fractal weather Wednesday here at Fractal Central was nondescript. In response, the fractal cats had a nondescript day. The discomfort of the lack of sun was mitigated by the above-average temperature of 50F 10C, leaving the dynamic duo in a state of indecision. They didn't decide until I offered them a dish of tuna, at which time they decided to eat. Well, I've got to get busy on that FOTD CD, among other things. Until the next Mandelbrot FOTD, which will appear in a few days, take care, and see you soon. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Mandelbrot-01 { ; time=0:16:12.28--SF5 on a P200 reset=2002 type=mandel passes=1 center-mag=-1.3749\ 2740278240500/+0.01223863992626447/1.204192e+009/1\ /84.9999710012695004/1.48995174826457855e-005 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=120000 inside=0 logmap=-11800 colors=000UwbUwaTwaTw`Sx_Rx_RxZQyYQy\ YPyXPyXRxWSxWTxVUwVVwVWwUXvUYvTZvT`uTauSbuSctSdtRe\ tRftQgsQhsQisPkrPlrPmrOnqOoqNpqNqpNrpMspMvwJtpMrjO\ pdQoZSmSUkMWiGYmBcjAahA_fAZdAXbAW_9UY9SW9RU9PS9OP8\ MN8KL8JJ8HH8GE7EC7CA7B879678A89DA9GCAJEAMCBPDBSFCV\ HCZLDaODeSEhUElVFoWFsXGvZGzZHzZGyYGwWGvUFtSFsQFqOF\ qMEoKEnJEmIDlIDkHDjGDiGCiFChFCgECfEBeDBdCBcCAbBAbB\ AaAA`A9_99Z89Y89X78W78W68V67U57T47S47R36Q36P26P26Q\ 47R58R69S7AT8BT9CUADVCEVDFWEFXFGXGHYHIZIJZKK_LL`MM\ `NNaOObPObQPcSQdTRdUSeVTfWUfXVgYWf_VgZWgYXhXYhWZhW\ _iV_iU`jTajSbjSckRckQdkPelPflOgmNgmMhmLinLknKmnJoo\ IqoHspHtpGupFvqEwqEurDvsCztBzuAzvAzw9zx8zy7zz7zzAz\ zDzzFzzIzzKzzNzzPzzSzzUzzXzzZzzazzdzzczzczzczzbzzc\ zzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczz\ czzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzcz\ zczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzcz } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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