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boredoms live
by giuliana ferraris 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

I have seen the boredoms live in London last week and i really enjoyed it. I think it was a shame that John Cale was added at the last minute. OK, Eye and friends perhaps are not the best technically but I like their attitude and their music is great. Was Eye compelled to scream every now and then? I think he was just having a good time. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Re: Boredoms live
by Oger 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

> >From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney(a)hotmail.com> > >Hello, > >Did anybody catch any of the recent Boredoms concerts in Europe??? > >Cheers, > Yes I did, in Paris, last week (12th july). (It was the first time I went to hear them). For me, it was very bad, very amateur. Three drummers making basic techno beat, without any imagination. No energy. No guitarist. Eye playing alternatively two sounds on electronics. Kind of Pink Floyd sounds (Mike Ratledge), And feeling obliged to scream from time to time. He was laughing with his partners. It looked ridiculous. I hope Boredoms have made better concerts in the past. It was not so crowded (about 400 people). But most of these people (like me) came because Boredoms have a strong reputation. I wish these people would listen to other music from Japan : Keiji Haino, Masayoshi Urabe, Otomo Yoshihide, Taku Sugimoto.... About 1/3 (maybe more) didn't like the concert (including some Boredoms fans). Jacques Oger

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New live Laswell
by Kasra George Ahmadi 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Has anybody checked out the live concert album of Tala Matrix from San Fran? I just picked it up from downtown music gallery and was wondering if anybody had thoughts about it. kasra

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Non-JZ FS: Clusone Trio, Brokeback(Tortoise)
by pm.carey＠utoronto.ca 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Perhaps of interest ... ** PRICES ARE US$ POSTAGE PAID ** in North America (more for overseas) If you don't like a price, make me an OFFER. $10 -- Brokeback - "Field Recordings From The Cook County Water Table" US CD (Thrill Jockey) 1999 [Debut from Doug McCombs (Tortoise) w/ guests Mary Hansen (Stereolab), John McEntire, John Herdon, Rob Mazurek, Noel Kupersmith & Josh Abrams. NEW copy.] $12 -- Clusone Trio - "I Am An Indian" US CD (Gramavison/Ryko) 1994 [Bennink (percussion, harmonica, voice, piano, electronics), Reijseger (cello, voice) & Moore (alto, clarinet, bass clarinet, melodica) recorded live 6-9/1993. Originals, and covers of Ellington, Berlin, Redman, Powell, Nichols etc.. NEW copy.] -Patrick pm.carey(a)utoronto.ca

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Re: Konfrontationen?
by Andreas Dietz 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

This year I canÂ´t go unfortunately - please give us some reviews after the festival. Andreas np: Vinny Golia - Solo >From: "Vincent Kargatis" <lartis(a)ath.forthnet.gr> > >I'm going to Konfrontationen this weekend - anyone else? Wouldn't mind >meeting some listers there... >-- >Vincent Kargatis >np: John Abercrombie - "Show Of Hands" (Cat'n'Mouse) _________________________________________________________________ Senden und empfangen Sie MSN Hotmail Ã¼ber Ihren PocketPC: http://pocketpc.msn.de

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More culture slop
by Ajda the Turkish Queen 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

Hey I totally agree. The grocery store near my house, where I've lived for 4+ years has changed companies, and the quality gone way downhill - obscenely so. (Much like the phone company - Nynex to Bell Atlantic to Verizon or my bank, BankBoston to Fleet) I feel like I'm suffocating when I go to the grocery store now. And I usually try to re-assure myself that corporate conglomeratization and proliferation doesn't touch me. I feel it now, and I HATE to admit or even acknowledge my sinking feeling. The feeling is helplessness. I mean, Christ, just where are we headed? More malls, more people, bigger companies, less human humans. Thank God we still have cool music!!!!! Ajda the Turkish Queen http://mp3.com/turkishqueen http://wmbr.org/schedesc.html#binge Remix http://drawbridge.com/countess/music.html Michael Gira Interview http://www.younggodrecords.com/audio/interview/AjdaInterview.ram _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Konfrontationen?
by Vincent Kargatis 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

I'm going to Konfrontationen this weekend - anyone else? Wouldn't mind meeting some listers there... -- Vincent Kargatis np: John Abercrombie - "Show Of Hands" (Cat'n'Mouse)

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Re: Elliott Sharp in the New York Times
by Andreas Dietz 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

itÂ´s an interesting article with SharpÂ´s special humor but one mistake: Ensemble Modern is not Berlin-based but Frankfurt-based. btw Elliott was nearby in Darmstadt two weeks ago and premiered a new piece with the Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra. Unfortunately I couldnÂ´t attend this gig... Andreas np: Julius Hemphill - Raw Materials And Residuals (Black Saint) >From: "Jeni Dahmus" <jdahmus(a)juilliard.edu> > >"No One Said He Makes for Easy Listening" >by Adam Shatz, 14 July 2002 >(some Zorn content) > >http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/14/arts/music/14SHAT.html _________________________________________________________________ Mit MSN Fotos kÃ¶nnen Sie kinderleicht Ihre Fotos ausdrucken und Freunden zur VerfÃ¼gung stellen: http://photos.msn.de

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culture shock
by D Dvb 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

> >remember once in a while that George W. Bush is not synonymous with > >"America" > >and imperialism/colonialism is not synonymous with "America" and >McDonald's > >is > >not synonymous with "America." > >I agree. But it's hard to get away from symbolic capital when that capital >is always on export. There are as Joe Zitt said a lot of diverse food >cultures in the states, music, art (Patrice is totally right in suggesting >that US art has been dominant over the past 50 odd years), film, etc. I would never presume to make authoritative statements on the state of American culture. Corporatization, gentrification, commodification, cooptation...I'd have to be an expert in sociology, business patterns, world affairs etc. to form a truly informed thesis on what's wrong with America. The only thing I can say in regards to this is that Sacramento, CA is very different New York City. We can't even stop Target, In-N-Out etc sprawling everywhere. It's very disheartening. I was the first generation born here and comparing the two cultures, the American culture is rather isolatory and empty, feels almost like no culture at all, just fleeting pop references to get you to spend money. America may have pockets of thriving arts communities and subcultures but they are usually marginalized and by the time they bubble to the surface, all meaning has been stripped away. The Vietnamese culture is different. While at times restrictive and even oppressive, the customs and tradition have a feeling of bringing people together. Culturally, I am more American than Vietnamese...when people point out the emptiness of American culture, I can't help but agree. John Zorn may or may not be a genius but is it really culture? America is such a fast-moving country, nothing has a chance to really take hold long enough to cultivate into meaningful culture. Even something as universally acknowledged as jazz feels like nothing more than Muzak for commercials, malls, etc. Sorry about the long-winded, non-intellectual rant. It's just how I feel about the matter. I don't think America's evil or anything, just deeply flawed, maybe moreso than other countries but only because of the position and potential it has. --davy, apologies to those who are tired of this subject...the digests are a little slow in coming _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Mike Patton article
by William York 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

for those who are interested, here is a nice article on mike patton from a local weekly out here in california: http://www.eastbayexpress.com/issues/2002-07-10/feature.html/1/index.html wy _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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