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Re: bittova reconsidered
by Acousticlv＠aol.com 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

<< bittova >> dear friends, i wish i could have seen her live; perhaps that's the difference, but you have convinced me to give her another try via disc. yrs steve koenig n.p. bartok 44 vln duos- hungaraton

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Fwd: bittová/weird little dennis cooper/wojnarowicz/ben neill
by TagYrIt＠aol.com 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

In a message dated 7/18/2002 5:22:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, velaires(a)earthlink.net writes: > np: the complete blind willie johnson As opposed to....the partially blind Willie Johnson? OK I know, sick sense of humor, but I couldn't resist. <G> Dale.

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Re: bittová/weirdness...
by Acousticlv＠aol.com 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

In a message dated 7/18/02 2:23:54 PM, velaires(a)earthlink.net writes: << > i think she's another 'personality' - often women- who > people tend to like for reasons extramusical. This is a really nasty statement about the audience and the performers. And I'm glad someone other than yours truly (who is guaranteed flamage everytime he points out a naked emperor) said it out loud, although the 'often women' part hopefully means 'although not so frequently as men'. >> dear skip- i meant very much not as frequently as men. this is not a reflection of the women artists but rather of some of the men who like them for extra-artistic reasons. when male performers are liked for extra-artistic reasons, it more often has to do with politics other than sexuality. as for bittova, my heteromale musicpals who love her rarely mention her w.o a comment beyond the music. as for me, i confess to having a wee collection of Lp jackets simply for stroke material, but i'd _never_ listen to the discs in em. always glad to hear from you, steve k. n.p.: formanex- cornelius cardew fibrr 04 (nude disc, no jacket <wink> )

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Re: Several recs
by Ryan Novak 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

> I've recently read wonderful things about the violin > player/singer Iva Bittová. I've only had the chance to > listen to her along with Fred Frith in his "Step > Across the Border". Any recommendations? What should I > expect? AS far as I know, her music is pretty hermetic > but that could be even more interesting, who knows? Bile Inferno (White Inferno) is wonderful imo. Someone else writes: >i think she's another 'personality' - often women- who >people tend to like for reasons extramusical. I'd say so, she's very cute, if that's what you were driving at- and her music can stand on its own, but that both aspects influence my total view doesn't bug me. ---Ryan Novak __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

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Re: bittová/weird little dennis cooper/wojnarowicz/ben neill
by Arthur Gadney 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

Hi! >i didnt understand the accolades many of my friends gave >to bittovas singing or violin. (...) i think she's another 'personality' - >often women- who >people tend to like for reasons extramusical. What reasons would that be? >weird little boy is a weird little album. Listen before buy, is my advise. Trey Spruance absolutelt hates ti, and he plays guitars on it... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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bittová/weird little dennis cooper/wojnarowicz/ben neill
by Acousticlv＠aol.com 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

<< And last but not least, I'd like to know your opinion on Zorn's album "Weird Little Boy" on Avant (which has probably been discussed one thousand times before, >> hola estimado efrén, i didnt understand the accolades many of my friends gave to bittovas singing or violin. i only heard a bit of her bartok but it didnt make me want to replace the versions i have. i think she's another 'personality' - often women- who people tend to like for reasons extramusical. weird little boy is a weird little album. i confess i bought it solely because it had a story written by one of my favorite writers, dennis cooper, whose work usually explores the extremes of the point where youth, homosexuality and violence (death & s&M) intersect. to me, cooper is as disturbing and as powerful as jean genet. here, the homosexuality is only implied, with girls thrown in the mix, and the themes of youth and violence are also strong but implied rather than explicit. here, the music is definitely interesting, but incoherent: it's a collage. starts with a sample of the drums from "leader of the pack" and then goes all over the place. it doesnt seem to follow texts (in a cartoon-like booklet) in any particular way. for those who like weird little boy, the artist, gay & hiv-activist david wojnarowicz, whose art installations, biography, and writings moved me deeply. has a disc of reading his texts with ben neill on new tone that i like a lot. steve koenig n.p.: "ambient intimacy vol5" - eetapes et80- excellent anthology: nonvapid n.r.: eminent maricones by jaime manrique (univ. of wisconsin press)

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nonZ/ new reviews online
by Acousticlv＠aol.com 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

dear friends, the july edition of my column "playing in tongues" (title forced on me by editors, formerly "incredible risks" http://www.lafolia.com/archive/koenig/koenig200207improvised.html is online without ads or spam, covering (forgive the capitals, i just cut'n'pasted from the site): ART ENSEMBLE OF CHICAGO, AYLER, BENNINK and Terrie EX, David BERKMAN, BLEY, Evan PARKER, Barre PHILLIPS, Joel BRANDON; Jorge CASTRO; CHADBOURNE; Mazzacane CONNORS; Suzanne LANGILLE; Stephan CRUMP; Gerd DUDEK; Paul DUNMALL; Hannes ENZLBERGER; Jerry GRANELLI and Jamie SAFT; ken Vandermark; Joëlle LéANDRE, Hasse POULSEN, François HOULE; LEMON JUICE QUARTET; LO Ka Ping: Chinese Masters of the Guqin in Historic Recordings; Ernán LóPEZ-NUSSA; LUV ROKAMBO; Tim LYDDON. I’ve Traveled So Far; David MARANHA; The Miyumi Project; Justin MORELL; Lauren NEWTON, Joëlle L´EANDRE, Urs LEIMGRUBER; Patrick SCHEYDER; Rebecca PARRIS; Lx RUDIS, André CUSTODIO and Ernesto DIAZ-INFANTE; Alexander von SCHLIPPENBACH; Dave STORRS; Louis SCLAVIS; SCORN; TALKING PICTURES and Jorrit DIJKSTRA; Per Henrik WALLIN w/Sven-Ake JOHANSSON; Ed WARE. also: Harris Eisenstadt - Last Minute Of Play In This Period http://www.allaboutjazz.com/reviews/r0702_086.htm Clouds - Natsuki Tamura/Satoko Fujii | Libra http://www.allaboutjazz.com/reviews/r0602_130.htm Thanks for your indulgence. Steve Koenig.

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More Boredoms
by David John Howarth 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

Hi Y'all ...And especially William C. great to finally mix with you here on the list. Actually my digest was about 12 hours later than usual and I thought the curse against my membership had gotten weirder. As per your questions. Eye maybe whooped once or twice, but only in the Glen Gould sense, no top-tastic vocals as such. John Cale played with a second keyboard player.(read stooge, could've been a backing tape and been "honest" like Brittany!) He played viola for the opening number,switched to a" who gives a fuck" type electric piano that could also have been a synth and done your clothes wash - for all I know. Cheers David H ps I noticed that my post came up with a bunch of "=" signs for every carriage return (and doubtless so has this) anyone give me the idiot guide to making this more legible? I'm a Bill Gates slave if that makes a diff. Over and Out!!

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More Boredoms
by David John Howarth 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

Hi Y'all ...And especially William C. great to finally mix with you here on the list. Actually my digest was about 12 hours later than usual and I thought the curse against my membership had gotten weirder. As per your questions. Eye maybe whooped once or twice, but only in the Glen Gould sense, no top-tastic vocals as such. John Cale played with a second keyboard player.(read stooge, could've been a backing tape and been "honest" like Brittany!) He played viola for the opening number,switched to a" who gives a fuck" type electric piano that could also have been a synth and done your clothes wash - for all I know. Cheers David H ps I noticed that my post came up with a bunch of "=" signs for every carriage return (and doubtless so has this) anyone give me the idiot guide to making this more legible? I'm a Bill Gates slave if that makes a diff. Over and Out!!

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More Boredoms
by David John Howarth 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

Hi Y'all ...And especially William C. great to finally mix with you here on the list. Actually my digest was about 12 hours later than usual and I thought the curse against my membership had gotten weirder. As per your questions. Eye maybe whooped once or twice, but only in the Glen Gould sense, no top-tastic vocals as such. John Cale played with a second keyboard player.(read stooge, could've been a backing tape and been "honest" like Brittany!) He played viola for the opening number,switched to a" who gives a fuck" type electric piano that could also have been a synth and done your clothes wash - for all I know. Cheers David H ps I noticed that my post came up with a bunch of "=" signs for every carriage return (and doubtless so has this) anyone give me the idiot guide to making this more legible? I'm a Bill Gates slave if that makes a diff. Over and Out!!

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