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worst record
by Edgar Lee 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

I saw Shrek at the Cooler in 1994 and later bought their album on Avant. They were much more impressive as a visual experience . Although I enjoy a lot of what he's done I prefer to compile mix tapes of what he's done whether it be his own CDs or ones where he has played on for others. I've used Patrice Roussel's discography to assist me with these compilations. Edgar NP Anthony Pateras new CD. http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au - Find yourself a bargain!

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Re: Worst record
by Steve Smith 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

Though I think your characterization of me affords more credit than is due, a response seems in order. No, I've not personally spent any quality time with ELP or Wakeman. But is it completely unwarranted to make such an assertion based on public behavior and statements made in the mass media? Or should we assume that they're "just playing rock star" in those contexts, but in real life they're sweethearts? Moreover, I'd think it was pretty clear by now that "constructive" isn't really the point of a "worst records" thread - at least, certainly not by THIS point in its devolution. When we talk about one Zorn or Arto or Frisell album being below that artist's par, perhaps that's in some way constructive, but when someone tosses 'Love Beach' into the ring, we're just pulling wings off of flies. However, for the sake of public decency (and just in case Emerson and Wakeman are actually kinder people than Lake has revealed himself to be), I certainly can try to avoid pissing on those bright red fire hydrants in public. Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com NP - Something that sounds like Mozart choral music on a Dutch classical internet radio station... On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 20:33:33 +0000 David Evans <davidcerievans(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >hey, i thought the worst record of all time was supposed to be ELP's >Love Beach. i never did hear any of it. >FAR too banal and insignificant to be the worst of all time. ELP might > >qualify as most self-important, pompous gits of all time, though Rick > >Wakeman's always offering a challenge to that particular throne... People criticising records they've never heard and probably the most informed list contibutor slagging off the personalities of musicians I suspect he's never met. We've really hit rock bottom now. Is there any danger of anyone saying anything constructive?

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Re: worst record
by Ryan Novak 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

>Finally I was just curious whether the criticism >of 'I >Killed Your God' was >just for that album, or is it for Shrek in general? I >heard the 'Shrek' >album and found it kind of hard to get into, and >wondered whether people >find this one also annoying? This is the one with Ribot doing Smashmouth right? Actually, except for the terribly trashy sound quality (and I LIKE muddy sound usually) this is a great album. Can't compare it to "Yo..." since I've never heard that maligned recording. Know though that if Ribot singing scares you, there's none of that on Shrek. Well, wait, but you've already heard it and been annoyed- okay, then this is more for the other post I got on this. Slightly better sounding (although could be from the same session) are the Shrek tracks on the split disc with Fred Frith, "Sounds of a Distant Episode". I discovered that Ribot's artistic focus was a little scattered later, but I always found these recordings rather coherent. Really good stuff- just wonder why they couldn't have thrown a few more mics up. ----Ryan Novak __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com

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Fwd: Re: worst record
by Efrén del Valle 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

Hi, > > > > > > > ! I KILLED YOUR GOD: Marc Ribot/Shrek (Tzadik) > > > > > > > That's the one I meant!!!!! Not "Shoe-String > Symphonettes" as I posted > > earlier! "SSS" is much much better than "I Killed > Your God"!!! OK. That sounds much better!!! > Makes more sense :-). YO! I KILLED YOUR DOG made me > seriously wonder about > Marc Ribot's tastes (as well as Tzadik filtering > process). I can't believe > that Ribot pushed to get such material on a > record... > > Patrice (still not impressed by Ribot as a > composer, but who loves It made me wonder about Ribot's status as a composer and going through his discography, the only respectable (to say the least) example of his compositional work is "Shoe String Symphonettes" by far. He has some good moments with Los Cubanos Postizos but really nothing out of this earth and the Shrek live on Tzadik sucks. I don't know about their Avant studio record, which is the only one I didn't buy. Any opinions? Is it in any ways similar to the live album? (I'm pretty sure it is). Thanks in advance. Best, EfrÃ©n del VAlle n.p: Ultra-lounge series "TV Town" _______________________________________________________________ Copa del Mundo de la FIFA 2002 El Ãºnico lugar de Internet con vÃdeos de los 64 partidos. Â¡ApÃºntante ya! en http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/fc/es/

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Worst Record
by Mark Saleski 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

hey, all i said was that i thought it was supposed to be the worst....i remember reading a book called "The Worst Rock Records Of All Time" (or something like that)...and Love Beach was in there. hmmm, somethin' constructive.... ok, my favorite Ribot recording is "Rootless Cosmopolitans". is that thing still in print? the aluminum substrate in my copy is falling apart. there are now very large holes plainly visible when held up to the light. there. lighten up, francis >People criticising records they've never heard and probably the most >informed list contibutor slagging off the personalities of musicians I >suspect he's never met. We've really hit rock bottom now. Is there any >danger of anyone saying anything constructive? -- Mark Saleski - marks(a)foliage.com | http://www.foliage.com/~marks "Music melts all the separate parts of our bodies together" - Anais Nin

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Worst record
by David Evans 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

>hey, i thought the worst record of all time was supposed to be ELP's >Love Beach. i never did hear any of it. >FAR too banal and insignificant to be the worst of all time. ELP might > >qualify as most self-important, pompous gits of all time, though Rick > >Wakeman's always offering a challenge to that particular throne... People criticising records they've never heard and probably the most informed list contibutor slagging off the personalities of musicians I suspect he's never met. We've really hit rock bottom now. Is there any danger of anyone saying anything constructive? Dave "Results! Why man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several thousand things that won't work." Thomas Edison. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: DER TRIBUN by Mauricio Kagel?
by Brent Fariss 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

How is the Heterophonie cd by Kagel? I have been keeping me eyes out for this one. I would love some sort of review. Brent >From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel(a)ichips.intel.com> >To: zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com >CC: proussel(a)ichips.intel.com >Subject: DER TRIBUN by Mauricio Kagel? >Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 11:02:53 -0700 > > In the booklet of HETEROPHONIE (Wergo), there is on the last page an >ad for other records. Among a few, the following one is listed: > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >*** - DER TRIBUN/... NACH EINER LEKTURE VON ORWELL: Mauricio Kagel > > ???? - Wergo (Germany), WER 63052 (CD) > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Does anybody know if it has already been released? > > Thanks, > > Patrice. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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New Film...New Music...
by Simone Ghetti 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

Hello, I haven't written to the Zorn list in while...I mostly lurk and read...however I thought this might interest people... A friend of mine (Loren Marsh) has finished filming and is currently editing his film entitled "Invitation to a Suicide". The film is "a black comedy set in the Polish immigrant neighborhood of Greenpoint, Brooklyn about a guy selling tickets to his own suicide to save his father's life." John Zorn has written and recorded the music for the film and I believe he is planning to release it on his label. If interested you can hear an MP3 of one of the tracks at http://www.invitationtoasuicide.com/mp3/ I believe Marc Ribot was involved in recording the music but I am not sure who the other musicians are. I will post more when there are new developments... Enjoy.... simone _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Czech singer: waldemar matuska
by Ricardo Reis 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

Hi! I've recently saw a great film about the czech pilots in WII (Darkblueworld) and i've tried to get some records on Waldemar Matuska, I believe he sings one of the main themes of the film, Svita. Are there any czech zornlisters that could give me a hand (cd title or something of the kind). greets, Ricardo Reis "Non Serviam"

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Jazz em Agosto
by Ricardo Reis 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

Like in all years the program for the Jazz in Agosto at Lisbon is there to seduce. Combine a trip to shine Portugal, eat some good food, drink good wine and enjoy the music. Check it out at: http://www.gulbenkian.org/arte/programacao_jazz2002_1.asp Ricardo Reis, "Non Serviam"

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