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RE: BYG reissues
by John Thomas 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

> From: Paul Audino <psaudino(a)interaccess.com> > > Full disclosure: I work for Universal. That said, I'd be > happy to send > out a list of what Fuel has re-issued so far and keep people > up to date > with releases if anyone's interested. > Thanks Paul! I for one would love to hear about the upcoming reissues as well. I saw on the back of the Braxton an upcoming notice for Paul Bley (I think this is _Ramblin'_?) and Rahsaan Roland Kirk (no idea what this is) reissues in 2002. Since you work for Universal, I believe they are also behind the recent Owl reissues that I've seen on Amazon.fr. A bunch of Paul Bley stuff has come out again recently (_Homage to Carla_, _Partners_, _The Life of a Trio_ with Giuffre), is there any more planned? John

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Re: newcomer to Zorn wants to know what else is worthwile.
by William Crump 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

I recommend: Elegy (creepy chamber music) The Classic Guide to Strategy (solo sax, clarinet & game calls -- exhausting and exciting at the same time) Xu Feng (high-energy combative game piece) It's worth noting that even though live performances -- trio, sextet, quartet -- continue, the Masada book was written 7-10 years ago. I'd call it middle-period rather than recent. William Crump

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by Kasra George Ahmadi 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

Hey peeps, I'm looking into purchasing an electronic tanpura. Does anybody know where to go for something like this. I tried ebay but had no luck. I know they exist because I saw a karnatic ensemble use one for a performance. Thanks kasra

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Re: re : mcdonalds
by Arthur Gadney 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

Hello. >Possibly this love-hate relationship is an inescapable mechanism concerning >the relation between "smaller" countries and a country which dominates the >smaller ones, be it culturally, technically, economically and >military/politically. How not to admire American music, literature, art, >fashion of the last half century? How not to buy American hi tech or to >realize the American power in the political sphere? But at the same time >this hurts. Hm, I think this comes dangerously close to the "inferiority complex" theory that somehow "we" envy USA because they are so good and succesfull. I think this really only explains a very minor part of the anti-American (I actually don't like this expression) feeling around the world. And to repeat my point, I do actually think that USA is one of the countries in the world which people from the outside have the most nuanced views of, and generally there is a very broad understanding that everything is not "George Bush and MacDonalds" as Steve put it (Try to compare it with how people view Japan for example...) Bye, _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Re: re : mcdonalds
by Arthur Gadney 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

Hello, I've just been reading throught the recent postings of Patrice and Steve, and found them to be quite interesting, but also painfully obvious (feel free to disagree). >I've been quietly sitting here on my hands for days now, quietly wishing >that >a small handful of smug, sanctimonious individuals would just fucking TRY >to >remember once in a while that George W. Bush is not synonymous with >"America" >and imperialism/colonialism is not synonymous with "America" and McDonald's >is >not synonymous with "America." > >Still, the monolithic view from the outside persists. I think the last line is utterly false and that most people do infact agree with Steve's first paragraph. This has certainly been my experience in dealing with people from around the world and especially when travelling through Europe, which is what I have done most. And besides that, I think the statistics back it up. What I meet everywhere, is the exact same love-hate relationship that Steve himself seems to have. When asked, the youth in Europe state very claerly that the one country in the world where they would most like to live next to their own is USA. By a long shot. But a the same time, they are intensly skeptical about the same things as Steve are. >But to the next person who wants to flog "us" with 'Fast Food Nation' (a >brutally fascinating book, BTW), please try to remind yourself that >wherever >you are, chances are good that someone near you chose to apply for that >McDonald's franchise instead of opening a quaint little local eatery, >capice? >When I went to Istanbul two years ago, it was a local who insisted on >treating >me to a Quarter Pounder, not vice versa. And he wasn't being condescending: >it >was where he wanted to eat. Gee, why does this discussion always boil down to burgers!? Cheers. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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re : mcdonalds
by > chromasoom audio visuele communicatie > 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

> > I think the Belgians invented French Fries?! > Well, damn yes we did! From the years 1600 on. First the poor people fried little fish they caught. In the winter the water froze, and people couldn't catch fish. As a replacement they cut potatoes in the shape of fish and fried them. The Belgian fries were born! And we eat them with mayonnaise! Eating mcd in France, because u can't find any better/cheaper? How odd. Americans really seem to have no food culture... JaWe

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A (fairly) newcomer to Zorn wants to know what else is worthwile.
by matt 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

That subject makes no sense. Okay, I got into Zorn last October when I picked up the first Naked City record on a recomendation. It blew me away. Since then I've been buying a bunch of Zorn and most have blown me away (Big Gundown, Live in Sevilla, Ganryu Island, Parachute Years boxset, Locus Solus) and some have left me cold (IAO, Taboo and Exile, the Gift (even though it is a beautiful record)). I seem to over all perfer Zorn's early works to his more recent works (except for Masada) and I basically want to know what else of Zorn's later and middle works I would enjoy. thanks, matt.

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McDonalds
by SonataPathetique＠aol.com 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

I wish I never mentioned McDonald's or European food. I had no idea the dialogue would never end.

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Re: re : mcdonalds
by Steve Smith 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

God (or whoever) bless Patrice Roussel. I've been quietly sitting here on my hands for days now, quietly wishing that a small handful of smug, sanctimonious individuals would just fucking TRY to remember once in a while that George W. Bush is not synonymous with "America" and imperialism/colonialism is not synonymous with "America" and McDonald's is not synonymous with "America." Still, the monolithic view from the outside persists. Dig: Not every one of us is proud of what some of us have done or said or committed on behalf of the rest of us here some or even most of the time, most of us still recognize that in the mean time we have a lot to be proud of, including William Faulkner and George Herriman and Jack Kirby and John Coltrane and Harry Partch and Los Bros Hernandez and Robert Johnson and John Zorn and Philip Roth and a whole lot of other things Patrice and Skip already mentioned and -- at least for the moment -- the right for all of us who actually live here to complain openly about just what it is WE don't like about our country, thank you very much, and to take action when action is warranted. And lo and behold, while I sit and steam and sulk, it takes a certafiably cynical Frenchman like Patrice to finally step up and give voice to that which I was too pissed off and offended to accurately verbalize. So thanks, Patrice. I honestly feel a lot better now. But to the next person who wants to flog "us" with 'Fast Food Nation' (a brutally fascinating book, BTW), please try to remind yourself that wherever you are, chances are good that someone near you chose to apply for that McDonald's franchise instead of opening a quaint little local eatery, capice? When I went to Istanbul two years ago, it was a local who insisted on treating me to a Quarter Pounder, not vice versa. And he wasn't being condescending: it was where he wanted to eat. If I lose "cool" points on the Zornlist because of this tirade, I could fucking care less. I support Greenpeace and I support the ACLU and I voted vehemently against both Bushes even though -- or maybe because -- I grew up in Texas, which often views itself as less a state and more an occupied territory. I think Cheney's one of the most evil and mendacious plutocrats ever installed in Washington, D.C., and right now I'm looking to help organize some kind of resistance to the Patriot Act and other Ashcroft transgressions against our freedom and civil liberties -- and yet I still say that this seemingly shallow little mongrel un-culture has a lot more going for it than most lapsed empires of the world care to admit. And when it comes to Islamic fundmentalism, America may be a leading target for its meddling, but every advanced culture in the world that runs on imported petroleum -- allowing the few to become obscenely wealthy in the presence and at the expense of the many -- shares in that blame. End of screed. Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com NP - Anthony Braxton, "Composition 286 (Tentet)," 'Six Compositions (GTM) 2001' (Rastascan/Limited Sedition/Barely Auditable)

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Texas Medley
by Antonio Martín 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

Si veis que me pongo pesado con esto me lo decis, pero es que no lo puedo evitar. Estoy negociando con un americano (norteamericano, mejor dicho) unos discos, entre ellos los dos conciertos completos del 3 y 4 de marzo del 88 en Chicago. Bien, como se hablÃ³ del Texas Medley hace un tiempo, pues viendo los titulos Ã©ste tema aparece en el concierto del dÃa 3 de la misma forma que se volviÃ³ a interpretar al dÃa siguiente. La versiÃ³n que aparece en el Apocrypha es la del 13 de marzo en Springfield (MA). El sonido parece ser excelente (seguro que mejor que la del Apocrypha) y creo que incluye una pista con una entrevista a Zappa. En total son 4 cds. Bien, si los consigo ya os lo dirÃ©, porque me parece esa gira excelente, ya conoceis la trilogÃa de la gira del 88, quÃ© os voy a contar ahora, y aquella superbanda. Os incluyo los titulos: 3-Mar 1988, Auditorium Theatre, Chicago, IL 130 min, Aud, A- w/ Mr. Sting The Black Page #2, We're Turning Again, Alien Orifice, Any Kind Of Pain, Why Don't You Like Me? (BTHW), Texas Motel Medley, When The Lie's So Big, Jesus Thinks You're A Jerk, Sofa, Stolen Moments, Murder By Numbers (BTHW), Ain't Got No Heart, Love Of My Life, City Of Tiny Lights, Pound For A Brown, Stairway To Heaven, Whippin' Post, I Am The Walrus, Catholic Girls, Crew Slut (YCDTOSA6), Strictly Genteel 4-Mar 1988, Auditorium Theatre, Chicago, IL 135 min, Aud, A Stinkfoot, When The Lie's So Big, Planet Of The Baritone Women, Any Kind Of Pain, What's New In Baltimore?, Stick Together, My Guitar Wants To Kill Your Mama, Willie The Pimp, Montana, Inca Roads, Zoot Allures, Texas Motel Medley, What Kind Of Girl? Peaches En Regalia, Torture Never Stops Medley, Yo Cats, Packard Goose, Jesus Thinks You're A Jerk, The Illinois Enema Bandit Como veis (aunque no lo he verificado en los creditos de los discos) 3 temas del concierto del dÃa 3 de marzo se utilizaron para los discos Broadway the Hardway y el volumen 6 del You CanÂ´t Do That.... Saludos

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