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Anti-swap CD hits the racks - Applies to Sacred Love
by Trini 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

From.... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20030923/tc_usatoda… It seems Sting is the next test case for this experiment. The album quality does not sound good on my computer and I now understand why, a CD can only hold 70 - 80 mins of music. There are two versions of these songs on this CD and the version for the PC does not have fidelity with over 65 mins of music on this Japanese release. It simply cannot fit teo copies. Sorry, another mistake from the King of Pain. The quotes from the articles below summarize the problem and you should be able to decipher the problem with the PC audio tracks. "Windows PC, the disc installs software to keep the music secure, and an interactive menu pops up with several links"..... same thing on this CD. "His CD, meanwhile, offers a glimpse of the direction the music industry is taking to prevent rampant piracy. The disc has two sets of music tracks: one set of "encrypted" songs that can be handled by CD players but cannot be ripped on computers, and a duplicate set of tracks in the Windows Media format. These can be downloaded from the CD to a computer and then transferred to portable devices or recorded to home CDs. But these "secure digital" tracks cannot be played on another computer should they be uploaded to the Net. "The whole concept was to create a legally licensed structure" for computer use of recorded music, says William Whitmore of SunnComm, which designed the anti-copy technology. In CD players, the disc plays normally. When put into a Macintosh (news - web sites) or Windows PC, the disc installs software to keep the music secure, and an interactive menu pops up with several links, including one to copy some or all of the Windows Media tracks to your hard drive." --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

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PARIS SHOW
by TONI CARBO 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

HI, I DO NOT MAKE ANY REPORT OF THE SHOW, JEREMY THEY DO BEFORE AND BETTER THAN ME..I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW FUNNY AND NICE WAS TO MEET WITH ALL THE GOOD FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD..NICE TO MEET FOR THE FIRST TIME JEREREMY,DEB,ROSS VINER..YEAH!!! THE SAME ROSS OF THE "I'M SO HAPPY "..ALL MY ITALIAN FRIENDS!!!!..CIAO TUTTI!!!!.THE HOLLAND FRIENDS TOO...FRENCH AND GERMAN!!! AND ALSO STINA FROM MADRID AND FINALLY DAVE ,WENDY AND TINA!!! (THANKS FOR THE POSTER)..HE WAS A NICE DAY!!!. UHMMM I MISS PAUL CARTER!!!..EVERY TIME SMILING!!!! STING!!! THIS IS FOR YOU..YOU MISS TO SANG STOLEN CAR!!! WHY???? TONI CARBO P.O.BOX 14282 08080 BARCELONA CATALONIA SPAIN TONICARBO(a)TELELINE.ES TONICARBO(a)teleline.es

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Auction has ended
by Stingfan222＠aol.com 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Well, now we have 1,680 more members to the sting fan club that didn't have to pay for it! The auction ended at $90 per ticket tonight. (OK, so maybe less than 1680 since it's one membership per bidder!) michelle

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The CD is growing on me.....
by Trini 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Inside and Sacred Love are starting to grow. Mary J Blige's voice messed up "Whenever I say Your Name". I still love Dead Man's Rope, Stolen Car and The Book of my Life is one of Sting's best songs ever. Forget about the Future is cool and jazzy. This War rocks. I still find Kipper's loud drum loops a bit annoying BUT boost the bass and highs, lower the mids, and it helps balance a CD that deserved a better production and final mix! Peace Trini --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

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To Paris and Back....
by Jeremy (Cheekyguides) 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Ok folks, I am mildly if not totally exhausted at this point, but I know that usually people want to know what the hell is going on, so. this is how it went. Deb, Maggie, Ross and I flew in from Houston to Paris arriving around lunchtime today. Deb and Maggie were brave and strong, and went to the venue to pick up tickets, Ross and I were weak, pathetic, tired and grumpy and went to the hotel and slept. Out of all the events that Deb and I have gone to, this show was the most attended Sting get-together as far as the Usual Suspects go. Everyone was there, it was a veritable Sting geek fest. There was not really enough time to catch up with everyone, but as I have said in the past, there are many people that you run into at the shows, and virtually everyone that you can imagine was there. Usually I make a list of everyone, but I am scared to omit someone, so I won't. Ok, 9pm, the lights drop, and.. Walking On The Moon - Started by Jason on the piano, and one by one the band members came out as their parts of the songs started. The band tonight consisted of Sting, Dom, Kip, Jason, Vinnie and a percussionist whose named escaped me. There were also two backing singers who were very good. Send Your Love - More raw than the album, and while it sounded good, it hasn't yet found its flow yet, they did the 'no religion' with vocals only. Sting commented that he was surprised we all knew the words considering that the album just came out today, and asked if we bought bootlegs, a few people commented that the songs are on his website. and to think I went to Tokyo for nothing. Inside - I love this song, and while it was great live, the chorus does not have the same power live as it did on the album Dead Man's Rope - Fantastic song, fantastic version, and Sting dedicated it to Kim Turner. Whenever I say your name - No Mary J Blige, but the backing singer Joy was utterly fantastic and deserves the credit for a great performance in her own right as opposed to being."the one who sings instead of Mary J's part..". This was really good live which surprised me. Sting said that Joy (Backing singer) had actually done the original vocals on the demo to send to Mary J Blige Forget About The Future - To me this is the weakest song on the album, played live improved it quite a bit, but just so so. This War - Great live, interesting video clips Book of my life - Lovely song, Dominic and the percussionist sat together at the front of the stage and played together., no sitar player, but it worked well all the same. Mad About you - Reworked version, a little faster and more danceable to fit in with some of the new material Sacred Love - Also very good live. Dominic plays the guitar solo from Jeremiah Blues in this, and while I could be wrong and it could have been in another song as I was totally wiped out at the time, it was a nice touch. Fields of Gold - Funniest part about this is that when it started, you could hear the cheers from the back of the theatre, and groans from the front. The version was hilarious, Dominic messed up the solo, and sting made him do it again, and then Sting totally messed up all the words and was laughing all the way through it. When it finished, it was probably the biggest cheer of the night. Desert Rose - Cheb came out to much applause and did a nice rendition, Vinnie changed the drums a little on this, and it changed the feel of it a little. The version finished with Cheb yodeling all over the place Never coming Home / When the World solo thing - Great song, even better live and just flows really well. It isn't as clubby live Many of you don't seem to like this, and this baffles us. If I ever lose my faith in you - Same as always, except that Vinnie knows how to do triplets :-) Every Breath you take - Same as always Fragile - Same as always, not even the All this time version Notable, yet welcomed omissions included: Roxanne, Englishman and Bring on the night, If you love somebody set them free. But, please remember these shows are more album launches than actual concerts, and when the tour starts in January, I would expect to see these back in the set.. unfortunately Everyone played well, but standouts were the backing singer on the left, Vinnie because he is great and is just so much more comfortable than Manu. Dom, Kip and Jason were as they normally are. There were large video screens behind the band playing some rather interesting, although sometimes out of place videos. During This War, it was all oil wells and soldiers marching etc, and sting commented during Inside that it is easier to start a war than say I Love you (unless you're a politician) Goodnight folks Jer

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Re: Moon Over Bourbon Street - Cornelius Mix
by Angeline Adams 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Hi all, I bought the CD single yesterday, with "Moon..." as a b-side. I liked the brief sample of it that was released a while back, but that arrangement becomes less interesting when you hear the whole song done that way. I've tried to analyse why, and I think it comes down to the fact that, unless my ears deceive me, there's no vestige of the original tune in the instrumental part at all. The marvellous, growly vocals carry it on, yes, but the result feels like someone's pasted the vocals on top of an unrelated and uninteresting hodge-podge of samples. Even when Sting radically re-arranged songs like "All This Time" and "Brand New Day" for the live album, he did so by interweaving old fragments of the tunes in with new instruments and riffs. The result was that the songs still felt like themselves, albiet in new duds.... Angeline _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

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Ticketmaster bidding farce / Hammerstein capacity / fan club "advantage"
by Brian Jacob 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

OK, I'm not sure if I understand this. Right now the tickets are going for $72.00 at the ticketmaster auction. Does that mean that even if you bid $100, you'll get it for 72 if it were to close now? Do all 1680 tickets go for the same price or is the top bidder stuck paying that amount? This whole bidding thing is such a farce. I hope all of you that didn't get the tickets when they were originally announced are able to. Michelle ------------------ Michelle, You're right--the Ticketmaster auction IS a complete farce. They "only" have 1680 tickets when the venue holds closer to 3000: http://www.newyorkticketbroker.net/venues/hammer/hammer_info.html http://www.jambase.com/search.asp?venueID=2945&display=venueinfo http://mixonline.com/ar/audio_hammerstein_ballroom/ "The current capacity of the Hammerstein is 3,700 when the audience is standing. The floor holds 2,500, and each of the two open balconies holds 600 seated patrons. When there are seats on the main floor, 1,200 people can sit there, reducing the overall capacity to 2,500. The third balcony is closed to the public, but the lower ceiling was removed, once again revealing beaux-arts angels flying on ceiling frescos high overhead." I REFUSE to believe that the fan club allotment made up the other half. There should be more than enough tickets remaining, and at a much more reasonable price. It's my humble guess that the rest of the tickets will go on sale to the public at the auction's close (Thursday the 25th, 9pm EST) for the standard price of $48.50. Guess we'll have to wait and see. For now, I know that I'm already extremely disappointed in the fan club and the obnoxious way the tickets have been handled. I'm glad I didn't waste my money, because from what I've seen so far there's been ZERO value in terms of ticket purchasing advantage. I'd love to be proved wrong, but it doesn't seem likely at this rate. Brian

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Ticketmaster bidding
by Stingfan222＠aol.com 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

OK, I'm not sure if I understand this. Right now the tickets are going for $72.00 at the ticketmaster auction. Does that mean that even if you bid $100, you'll get it for 72 if it were to close now? Do all 1680 tickets go for the same price or is the top bidder stuck paying that amount? This whole bidding thing is such a farce. I hope all of you that didn't get the tickets when they were originally announced are able to. Michelle

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My turn to bitch!
by Trini 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Just listened to my Japanese copy of the CD and I am not as excited as I thought I'll be. I now understand the complaints I've been hearing. I know one thing for sure, it certainly will never be my favorite CD and Brand New Day was a lot better, in fact Brand New day is one of my favorite Sting/Police albums. Where's the Jazz? I miss Sting's clever Jazz arrangements, Tomorrow We'll See, Ghost Story, A Thousand Years. This album has so many loops/ sequences, I understand Sting wanting to change his direction/sound but to this? I now understand Christian Mc Bride saying the "cool jazz tune" not making the album. The arrangements are not as sophisticated/clever as I am accustomed to from Sting. All in all, my favorite new songs are "The Book of my life", "Dead Man's Rope", "Stolen Car". Where are the instruments? Too much Kipper/Computers I understand previous complaints about "Where are the instruments?" The album is so techno, it kindah irritated me at one point, loops, sequences, not much keyboard, guitars or drums. One of the reasons I loved The Book of My Life is Anoushka Shakar's sitar was so promenant. Way too overproduced. Horrible production, loops/ sequences way too loud, no instruments, even "This War", I do not like the way it's mixed, at one point you could barely hear what Sting is singing. First Three Songs. Why start the album with these songs? Inside goes nowhere. Whenever I say Your Name and Send Your Love are boring, sorry. Three least favorite songs on the album and what's up with Sting's voice on Inside? It sounds flat! We definitely need a live album after this tour. These songs can only improve live. From Stingus, it seems Kipper WILL be touring but a new drummer will be in the band starting 2004, Keith Carlock, the kid seems incredible from the clips on this website.... http://www.dandom.com/carlock/ . Sorry for the rant! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

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Cover of new book Broken Music
by Paula Mickevich 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

The Sting memoir on amazon.com has a cute cover photo of Sting as young lad - Books in Print Online has back cover photo too - Sting with beard. $26.00 - amazon discount %30, so $18.20 # Hardcover: 352 pages # Publisher: Bantam Books; 1st edition (November 11, 2003) # ISBN: 0385336780

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