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"A list full of whiners"???
by bjacob＠pop-server.nyc.rr.com 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

"Jeremy (cheeky)" <cheekyjeremy(a)earthlink.net> writes: What a joke, Andy and Stewart for all we love them are not a large box office draw and could not charge prices that big name acts can charge. Stings tickets for this upcoming tour are actually a lot less than they were for BND and they are pretty reasonable when compared to similar size acts. Once again, it seems that this list is full of whiners that will complain no matter what happens. ----------- Jeremy, As far as NY is concerned, the tickets for the new tour are NOT a lot less expensive than BND. They're MORE expensive. If you wish to argue this point further, then I have the ticket stubs to prove it. I am beyond offended at your arrogrant dismissal of valid criticism about price-gouging as a "list full of whiners". If anything, I can turn it around and call you a sad, blind, hyper-obsessive fanatic that's too immersed in the ritual of worshipping a fading pop star whose new album sold so poorly that he had to desperately resort to an abundance of corporate sponsorship and gouging the loyal fans he had left. Open your eyes and face facts. Sting isn't chart-worthy and isn't winning any new fans anymore. His management team has no choice but to bleed the loyal fans that have stuck with him since day one. Don't get me started on the "fan club" and the calculated profit scheme that surrounded the Hammerstein "fan club" show and the rigged Ticketmaster auction. I used to like the guy a lot more, but the marketing machine has lowered my enthusiasm. You cannot deny that the ticket prices are ridiculously inflated to the point of being comical. If I'm a whiner, then you're an apologist. And not a very good one at that. There is ZERO justification for Sting's management's price-gouging. Pardon me for thinking for myself. I still love the music, but I have better things to do with my hard-earned cash. I'm with Heather--I'll wait for the inevitable DVD. Brian -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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Apples and Oranges, or Oranges and Apples?
by Raj Manoharan 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

<What a joke, Andy and Stewart for all we love them are not a large box office draw and could not charge prices that big name acts can charge. Stings tickets for this upcoming tour are actually a lot less than they were for BND and they are pretty reasonable when compared to similar size acts.> True, perhaps, but consider this: Compare the respective ticket prices of the aforementioned artists in relation to the quality of their musical brilliance, and therein may you perceive the difference in value. <Once again, it seems that this list is full of whiners that will complain no matter what happens.> I'm going to go against the grain and boast that I got the best deal on Sting tickets of anybody. ®@J truth ... not tradition freedom ... not favoritism _________________________________________________________________ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

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Re: [Police] Re: A list full of whiners??
by HNH911＠aol.com 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

I would hate to have somebody on this list dismiss other members voicing thier opinion as "whiners". I am really jealous of the fact that you can attend 50 Sting shows for one tour, however I for one can not do that. In my opinion that does not make me less of a fan of Sting or his music. That makes me a fan with less money than you. I have a family, a mortgage, a car payment, and the holidays coming up. So do I mean to whine? NO, however I would imagine that the majority of the fans, either on or not on this list are in the same boat as me. So when it comes to fishing out $13 bucks for a CD, no big deal, but when that act asks his devoted fans, and with the small venues and exclusive small fan club offering it is his devoted fans attending those shows, to put out $100 dollars to see him I think it comes as a shock. A few years ago when Streisand was touring people were pissed her tickets were $200 bucks, but when you think the woman had not toured in 15 years it was worth it. Sting tours every 2-3 years. And I love the music, it moves me, it moves my soul. I think the fact that I voiced my opinion on how expensive I thought the tickets were does not make me a whiner. If you would like to be introduced to a whiner you can gladly call my house and I will put you on the phone with my 12 year old son. Heather

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Re: [Police] Re: A list full of whiners??
by Stingfan222＠aol.com 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

Does it matter how they got there and how they paid for it? If they choose to make the time for that/spend the money on that, more power to them. Everyone chooses their priorities in life. Deb and Jer were kind enough to purchase CD's for those on the list that wanted them. They certainly didn't have to tell us they were going. I'm fortunate enough to be able to balance my sting life and family life, but I do understand everyone's feelings on the tickets. Would I like to travel around to lots of shows? Yes,. Can I? No. Kids, time and $$$ get in the way. Of course when I had the time, I didn't have the money. Maybe it'll all click for me before he stops touring! I'm sure I'll be accused of playing "Mom" again, but play nice you guys! Michelle in TX In a message dated 11/18/03 6:47:46 PM, mtigges(a)shaw.ca writes: << As for the income issue. A trip to Japan to buy Sacred Love 2 weeks early speaks volumes, unless it really is coincidence that a one/two day business trip corresponded to the release date. >>

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Re:
by Mr. Absolute Objectivity 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

sorry jeremy I meant the person who used the "list of whiners" word __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

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Re: [Police] eBay II
by amaryll 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

I think selling the tix this far in advance makes it easier for the brokers/scalpers to sell their tix. If the artist truly wanted to circumvent the brokers/scalpers, they would devise it so that the person who actually ordered the tickets would have to show their credit card in order to pick up the tix on the day of the show. on 11/18/03 5:46 PM, Maggie White at mwhite(a)gw.smbsd.k12.ca.us wrote: > I am QUITE happy with my fanclub fee!! It just kills me that brokers can sign > up too, (it's a free world) and then screw "real" fan club members out of good > seats (brokers have high speed internet and a dozen people working for them > buying tickets simultaneously the second they go on sale.) It's hard for the > person at home with a modem to compete. > > Maggie >

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eBay II
by Maggie White 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

There are now 114 listings for Sting tickets on eBay. Go brokers! There are some prices in the $900 range. Boston front row has an asking price (no bids yet) of $1,300. Los Angles, third row pit, are $1,200, from a BROKER! Those had to come through the pre-sale. There are a few single great seats at not too much above face value for anyone who got shut out and is desperate. There are also some at ridiculous prices! Maggie

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RE: [Police] Sacred Love tour ticket prices / I give up.
by Stingfan222＠aol.com 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

I agree, but if you compare him to other big names, he's pretty much right in line with their prices. I guess if they saw us revolting, the prices would come down but we keep shelling out the $$$. Unfortunately, I'm addicted and those shows are my drug. Anyone starting a Sting-addiction clinic to set me free? Michelle in TX In a message dated 11/18/03 3:29:38 PM, F.Berthelot(a)Ramsa.com writes: << While ticket prices may be below the $100 level in the rest of the country, New York fans are faced with the ridiculous price of $160 per seat! Two tickets with Ticketmaster charges comes out to $350 -- $175 per ticket! Getting Sting tickets used to bring me joy, but at this price, it turns my stomach... >>

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Taping Shows
by Kenneth Dudzik 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

Hi, Anyone planning on taping any of the shows? I may tape Chicago depending on if I hit the lotto before it sells out. If anyone out there is able to get a clean recording, please contact me off list. Thank you, Ken

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RE: [Police] Sacred Love tour ticket prices / I give up.
by Fred Berthelot 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

While ticket prices may be below the $100 level in the rest of the country, New York fans are faced with the ridiculous price of $160 per seat! Two tickets with Ticketmaster charges comes out to $350 -- $175 per ticket! Getting Sting tickets used to bring me joy, but at this price, it turns my stomach...

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