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And now for something completely different......
by Anne Robinson 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

from our Police album/tour dialogs.I came across this on Amazon today and couldnt remember seeing it on the list before so I thought Id share just in case. ~Anne "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." Sting's List of Music You Should Hear "(Sittin' on) The Dock of the Bay" ~ Dreams <http://www.amazon.com/Dreams-Remember-Otis-Redding-Anthology/dp/B000009NKC/ ref=cm_syf_dtl_txt_3> to Remember: The Otis Redding Anthology, Otis Redding You can't get better than Otis Redding. "Hideaway" ~ Bluesbreakers <http://www.amazon.com/Bluesbreakers-Clapton-Mayall-Blues-Breakers/dp/B00005 K9QP/ref=cm_syf_dtl_txt_4> with Eric Clapton, John Mayall This was my guitar album--I learned every song note for note. Eric was taking and reworking ideas from people like Freddie King. When I played guitar with the Blue Turtles band I could work through clichés, but I'm no blues guitarist. "Sweet Baby James" ~ Sweet Baby James <http://www.amazon.com/Sweet-Baby-James-Taylor/dp/B000002KB3/ref=cm_syf_dtl_ txt_5> , James Taylor You can scratch the surface of my songs pretty lightly and you'll find someone who wanted to be James Taylor at the age of 14. He's also a brilliant and ridiculously underrated guitar player and blessed with a voice that could melt ice caps. Rope <http://www.amazon.com/Rope-Ladder-Moon-Jack-Bruce/dp/B00009PABK/ref=cm_syf_ dtl_txt_6> Ladder to the Moon, Jack Bruce I was actually more keen on Jack's work after he left Cream, especially this superb record. Jack had a certain formalism that attracted me--he wasn't just a plodder. Here was a bass player who sang--which is impossible--and had a jazz sensibility. I finally had a musical role model to look up to. "The Wind Cries Mary" ~ Are You Experienced <http://www.amazon.com/Are-Experienced-Jimi-Hendrix-Experience/dp/B000002P5Y /ref=cm_syf_dtl_txt_7> , Jimi Hendrix I loved Jimi's harder stuff, but this showed a much gentler and deeper side of him. I recorded a version of this with John McLaughlin, and I've never worked with such an extraordinary guitarist. His musical intelligence is just off the scale. "Subterranean Homesick Blues" ~ Bringing <http://www.amazon.com/Bringing-All-Back-Home-Dylan/dp/B00026WU9Q/ref=cm_syf _dtl_txt_8> It All Back Home, Bob Dylan I think this was one of the first videos I remember seeing. I bought the original 45. I love this song. I love the lyrics even though I never quite knew what they meant. It's a great song and he's a great artist and he really inspired me. "So What" ~ Kind <http://www.amazon.com/Kind-Blue-Miles-Davis/dp/B000002ADT/ref=cm_syf_dtl_tx t_9> of Blue, Miles Davis I play "So What" almost once a week because I find it stimulating intellectually to hear those guys exploring the range of their talents. You can hear their personalities come through so clearly. A wonderful conversation between instruments. Hymn <http://www.amazon.com/Hymn-Seventh-Galaxy-Return-Forever/dp/B0000046X0/ref= cm_syf_dtl_txt_10> of the Seventh Galaxy, Chick Corea/Return to Forever Basically an exercise in demi-semiquavers we used to do in my old band Last Exit. I remember doing a gig with a big band and we supported Return to Forever. I had never seen anything like it! "Smells Like Teen Spirit" ~ Nevermind <http://www.amazon.com/Nevermind-Nirvana/dp/B000003TA4/ref=cm_syf_dtl_txt_11 > , Nirvana The energy of the Sex Pistols linked with a brilliant sense of melody. Kurt used considerable musical intelligence to carefully construct statements that sounded offhand. Link that skill to powerful energies and you've got something unique. I just wish he'd seen music as a way to heal his soul. I do think he would have got to that point eventually. "Big Bottom" ~ This Is Spinal Tap <http://www.amazon.com/This-Spinal-Tap/dp/B00004WGVQ/ref=cm_syf_dtl_txt_12> , Spinal Tap "'Ow much more black could it be? None more black!" The Ghost of Tom Joad <http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Tom-Joad-Bruce-Springsteen/dp/B000002BFL/ref=cm _syf_dtl_txt_13> , Bruce Springsteen The great thing about Bruce is that he's exactly as he seems, A great man. On "The Ghost of Tom Joad" I realised very quickly reading the lyrics that he'd upped the stakes. I think it's the best record he's done. "Shaking the Tree" ~ Shaking <http://www.amazon.com/Shaking-Tree-16-Golden-Greats/dp/B000065V9S/ref=cm_sy f_dtl_txt_14> the Tree: 16 Golden Greats, Peter Gabriel and Youssou N'Dour I first met Youssou with Peter several years ago when we worked together on an Amnesty tour. Both of them have such extraordinary voices and Peter has done a lot to promote world music in general and that should be acknowledged as it's been a one man crusade on his part. "Paper Sun" ~ Mr. <http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Fantasy-Traffic/dp/B00004WF68/ref=cm_syf_dtl_txt_1 5> Fantasy, Traffic I loved the band Traffic for their way of creating a musical universe without these boundaries, because whether it's country, pop, gospel, heavy metal or classical music, it's all a single language, a code. "Tempted" ~ Singles <http://www.amazon.com/Singles-45s-Under-Squeeze/dp/B000002GE7/ref=cm_syf_dt l_txt_16> 45's and Under, Squeeze One of my favourite songs that I never wrote was "Tempted" and I did actually cover it. It's a great song, and Chris Difford and Glenn Tilbrook are great songwriters. Squeeze were always a great band, and it was nice to cover it.

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Re: [Police] A few thoughts
by Chris Ryan 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

On 16-Mar-08, at 2:18 PM, police-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > You know, that's a pretty accurate response. Not everybody will be > happy whatever the Police end up doing. I was very interested in > your short little story about fellow Police-fans you knew when they > did Zenyatta. I can't even imagine anybody not liking Zenyatta > Mondatta. I see their side though, it certainly was nothing like > the previous two albums. They were much more punkish, raucous in > their sound and Zenyatta could definitely be considered more > commercialized. I remember the reaction to that album quite well. It was definitely the case that there was something of a backlash; the "serious" fans were somewhat put off. (I believe all three band members have since said it was a rush job.) I recall a couple of critics defending "De Do Do Do" but also remember my best friend's younger sister latching onto the group and their becoming a phenomenon, and Sting a sex symbol. Shouldn't have mattered that much to me (wouldn't now), but I was only about eighteen, and I didn't like the album as much as the previous two. I sort of (stupidly) forgot about the group until I was won over again by "Every Little Thing" a year or so later. Although I still think that, at least sonically, "Ghost" was a disappointment as well. I know a lot of Police fans don't love Synchronicity (i.e., "Stingronicity"), but I though it was a strong progression and return to form. And it still sounds great, in terms of production, twenty- five years on, which in my opinion is more than you can say for "Ghost." > I, like you, really have not heard a Police or Sting album I have > not liked. Even Mercury Falling, which everyone is soooo quick to > disparage. Mercury Falling was the last Sting CD I listened to more than once or twice. I haven't even heard the last two (lute included). But when someone posted a YouTube video of "I Hung My Head" a few weeks back, I realized (again) how much I had by that time become an unquestioning "fan." It's pretty dreadful stuff, in my opinion. I missed the "Dream" tour (didn't come near me); saw the "Nothing" tour in Toronto which I thought was great largely because of the musicians involved; saw the "Soul Cages" tour in Vancouver which I thought was great as I loved the smaller band and Sting seemed to be having a really good time and it was very musical; saw the "Summoner's" tour in Vancouver and remember thinking when he worked "Invisible Sun" into "Every Breath" at the end that it made perfect sense to get the Police back together as he'd said what he needed to solo. But he continued to spin his wheels, and I saw the "Mercury" tour in Mountain View, California, and it felt pretty flat to me. Then I bailed; diminishing returns. Buying a new Police or Sting album used to be an Event for me; I could tell you what shop and with whom I bought almost every one. But that ended. There's so much great music now, I rarely listen to Sting or The Police. Occasionally something will come up on shuffle on my iPod and makes me smile. I'm glad I saw the reunion tour in Vancouver, but life goes on. There's lots of great music out there. I'm not a "classic rock" kind of guy. I'm listening to, and seeking out, the next Police. Chris

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Fwd: Re: A few thoughts / the old style
by Steve Langele 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

>Why is whether or not they have a "hit" the barometer of success? I >couldn't care less how many people listen to it. I don't think it's a >stretch to argue that most of the best new music these days doesn't >top the charts, or even reach them. Who cares? What difference does it >make? I agree Chris, most of the stuff I listen to these days rarely makes it on the charts. However, most likely it matters to the boys. I agree with this line of thinking too, Colin. It might not matter to us or many others, but I think that if these guys don't have something "solid" and a sure success, they aren't going to risk releasing what might be considered a flop in regards to their previous success.... >But at the same time, isn't it possible that these guys could reinvent themselves? I mean, there would have to be something remaining of the "old" Police in their writing style. Sting's writing and playing styles have changed of course, but he wouldn't be writing his solo stuff. Isn't it possible for him, as well as Andy and Stewart of course, to incorporate his(their) current influences and somehow come up with a newer sound that is still "Police-like"? As hard-headed and domineering as he is over Andy and Stewart, I would like to think that they would not just let him walk all over them, especially Stewart. I don't know. It's all just speculation anyways, and probably nothing will happen. They'll finish their tour and go about their seperate ways again.... And we'll all be left wondering... Very good point Steve, NO ONE plays drums like Stewart can, and with Andy's trademark guitar sound, whatever Sting writes would be filtered through these guys like it used to. It wouldn't be another Sting album with Andy and Stewart as guests Giovanni, you hit the nail on the head wen you say that I would like to hear the old Police style again... Nothing would make me happier I tell you!! I have a few bootlegs from the reunion tour, but mostly I have bootlegs from shows they did in the 70s and 80s. I can't help it!! I love the energy and the long vamps where Sting just adlibs the lyrics, like Can't Stand Losing/Regatta de Blanc... One of my favorite song combos they did then and now live. I loved hearing that on this tour!! But, I know what you mean. I don't expect to hear the old sound; it just isn't going to happen. But, at the same time, I just don't think that it will be totally lost if they record anything new. They are not the same musicians anymore, they have all grown tremendously, but I think that when they all get together, they cant help but play like "the Police".... I know you of anybody has the most reliable runours/gossip, and if they were going to record something, you would have said so long go. I don't expect anything to happen, but of course I wish it to. Mario, thanks for the positive response to my thoughts... However, I did share some of those "other" thoughts too. I just sorta re-thought it all, cause I too, as I just stated, would love to have a Police album like the old days. And if they wouldn't write one like that, I didn't think I would want one either. But, of course I'd love to hear new material one way or the other. I always loved hearing a new Sting album, cause it was always interesting to see where his style was going next. I might not necessarily have liked it as much as the previous, but for me, it was still Sting and his music and absolutely no reason for me to hate it. Same if the Police were to record new stuff. I might not like it the same as before, cause it won't be the same old sound, but it will be a Police album and it may just take me some time to get used to it, but more than likely would end up loving it..... Giovanni Pollastri <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> wrote: From: "Giovanni Pollastri" <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> To: "Mailing LIst Police" <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:50:25 +0100 Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts / the old style >But at the same time, isn't it possible that these guys could reinvent themselves? I mean, >there would have to be something remaining of the "old" Police in their writing style. Steve, I can understand that you like many others may like something like the old Police style, but they are 30 years older now, they are different people, they have different needs, they have complete different lives from those times, there are complete different discography rules, different managers, different tastes.... people change, and I'm afraid their style could be different...maybe better, maybe not... When Stewart, before the reunion was announced, told me that they could work on new stuff mixing all their different musical experiences (Taranta, Jazz, Reggae, Electronic, Fusion, Brazilian, ecc....) I was thinking that they were coming back as they found the right formula to release something definitely new and interesting under the name THE POLICE; they did not, for different reasons, but I am sure they thought a lot about it, they talked a lot, they even tryed to work on those new songs for what I know, but everything was killed from the beginning. Giovanni Sting's writing and playing styles have changed of course, but he wouldn't be writing his solo stuff. Isn't it possible for him, as well as Andy and Stewart of course, to incorporate his(their) current influences and somehow come up with a newer sound that is still "Police-like"? As hard-headed and domineering as he is over Andy and Stewart, I would like to think that they would not just let him walk all over them, especially Stewart. I don't know. It's all just speculation anyways, and probably nothing will happen. They'll finish their tour and go about their seperate ways again.... And we'll all be left wondering... foxie <forfoxie(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hey! Great posts by Chris and, of course, G. Thx guys! Those hardcore fans are truly caught between the rock and the hard place aren't we? When the tour was announced...and I first heard scuttlebutt that a new record was being planned, I was VERY excited. But as the months have passed, the more I thought about it...the more I think that I do NOT want it to happen. And the reason is this...I don't believe that Sting can go back to writing songs in the Police style. And I am not talking about early-Police material...I am talking about "Ghost" and SYNCHRONICITYesque material. I believe not only is he disinterested in doing it...but that he couldn't do it if he tried...because he has been away from writing in that vein for so long. Think of it...what benefit would Stewart give to "A Thousand Years"? What could Andy do with "Desert Rose"? And that is not an attack on Sting's solo material. I love it...well, up to MERCURY FALLING anyway. (And BRAND NEW DAY has "loving" moments on it for me as well.) But...BRAND NEW DAY and SACRED LOVE...THAT is the material that Sting is writing at present...do you think that those tunes are Police material, Police "worthy". I don't. As I mentioned before...I look at this reunion as as way for Sting to go on hiatus...to recharge the songwriter battery within him. And when the fruits of that hiatus bloom, nothing like "Driven To Tears" of "Secret Journey" is coming out. Truth Hits Everybody, Truth Hits Everyone, Rich ----- Original Message ---- From: Giovanni Pollastri To: casimar(a)yahoo.com; police(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:56:27 AM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me >Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I see your point Christopher, but we don't have to consider ouselves as the main element to take care of; WE are a minority, we hardcore fans see things in a different way than the rest of the world, the usual radio listener, the usual magazine reader, etc.. etc.. Dont'get me wrong when I say I don't believe in a new album; I am a great fan and I'd love to see a new album that would sound as great as the previous five albums, but if they won't release it, I'm afraid they have nothing in their hands that could top that sound and image. Nothing wrong with that; at least they haven't ruined their fame like too many other bands have done keeping working together for years and years releasing records that get out of catalogues in three years! If they have to release a new record they have to 'shock the world', not only the fans. Giovanni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Simar" To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts >I was trying not to get in on this one, lol, but I > just wanted to agree with Giovanni. I wouldn't want a > "crap" Police album. But I don't think it's likely. > > Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I > have filled my hard drive with mp3s of them despite > the repetitiveness of the set, the lack of obvious > experimentation, etc. The Police, playing ANYTHING, > are magic. I would love to hear a new song or two. > > 'Solo Sting,' however, has made an increasingly high > percentage of things that I can't really get behind, > starting in the late 1990s and falling from there. I > enjoy his later studio albums at first, then rarely > re-listen. I don't always catch him on tour. The > lute album and the 9/11 live album, I can't listen to. > > I just feel like Sting should do something with The > Police, or just retire. His "legacy" is important, > too, right? And if he can't come up with material > that Andy could do something with (Andy can do > ANYTHING, is my opinion) then, well, he probably can't > come up with good enough material to release under > anyone's name, even his own solo name. That's just my > two cents. I fear my hero has peaked. And I was > hoping The Police would revive his old vitality. > > I don't think I'm in this for nostalgia, at least not > entirely.. I am in it for whatever "it" is that only > those three guys can do, even just noodling around. > I'd rather hear The Police play than hear session > musicians hired by Sting, be that on old or new > material. I respect his right to do that, but that > doesn't mean I have to like it. (But I hope I do.) > > Christopher > > > --- Giovanni Pollastri > wrote: > >> What if they will do a crap album? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mario >> To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:43 AM >> Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts >> >> >> >> >> bottom line they should do an new album just to >> surprise everyone and go through with the challenge >> >> this solo stuff is just crap for now > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. 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Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me
by foxie 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

Hey! Great posts by Chris and, of course, G. Thx guys! Those hardcore fans are truly caught between the rock and the hard place aren't we? When the tour was announced...and I first heard scuttlebutt that a new record was being planned, I was VERY excited. But as the months have passed, the more I thought about it...the more I think that I do NOT want it to happen. And the reason is this...I don't believe that Sting can go back to writing songs in the Police style. And I am not talking about early-Police material...I am talking about "Ghost" and SYNCHRONICITYesque material. I believe not only is he disinterested in doing it...but that he couldn't do it if he tried...because he has been away from writing in that vein for so long. Think of it...what benefit would Stewart give to "A Thousand Years"? What could Andy do with "Desert Rose"? And that is not an attack on Sting's solo material. I love it...well, up to MERCURY FALLING anyway. (And BRAND NEW DAY has "loving" moments on it for me as well.) But...BRAND NEW DAY and SACRED LOVE...THAT is the material that Sting is writing at present...do you think that those tunes are Police material, Police "worthy". I don't. As I mentioned before...I look at this reunion as as way for Sting to go on hiatus...to recharge the songwriter battery within him. And when the fruits of that hiatus bloom, nothing like "Driven To Tears" of "Secret Journey" is coming out. Truth Hits Everybody, Truth Hits Everyone, Rich ----- Original Message ---- From: Giovanni Pollastri <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> To: casimar(a)yahoo.com; police(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:56:27 AM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me >Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I see your point Christopher, but we don't have to consider ouselves as the main element to take care of; WE are a minority, we hardcore fans see things in a different way than the rest of the world, the usual radio listener, the usual magazine reader, etc.. etc.. Dont'get me wrong when I say I don't believe in a new album; I am a great fan and I'd love to see a new album that would sound as great as the previous five albums, but if they won't release it, I'm afraid they have nothing in their hands that could top that sound and image. Nothing wrong with that; at least they haven't ruined their fame like too many other bands have done keeping working together for years and years releasing records that get out of catalogues in three years! If they have to release a new record they have to 'shock the world', not only the fans. Giovanni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Simar" <casimar(a)yahoo.com> To: <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts >I was trying not to get in on this one, lol, but I > just wanted to agree with Giovanni. I wouldn't want a > "crap" Police album. But I don't think it's likely. > > Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I > have filled my hard drive with mp3s of them despite > the repetitiveness of the set, the lack of obvious > experimentation, etc. The Police, playing ANYTHING, > are magic. I would love to hear a new song or two. > > 'Solo Sting,' however, has made an increasingly high > percentage of things that I can't really get behind, > starting in the late 1990s and falling from there. I > enjoy his later studio albums at first, then rarely > re-listen. I don't always catch him on tour. The > lute album and the 9/11 live album, I can't listen to. > > I just feel like Sting should do something with The > Police, or just retire. His "legacy" is important, > too, right? And if he can't come up with material > that Andy could do something with (Andy can do > ANYTHING, is my opinion) then, well, he probably can't > come up with good enough material to release under > anyone's name, even his own solo name. That's just my > two cents. I fear my hero has peaked. And I was > hoping The Police would revive his old vitality. > > I don't think I'm in this for nostalgia, at least not > entirely.. I am in it for whatever "it" is that only > those three guys can do, even just noodling around. > I'd rather hear The Police play than hear session > musicians hired by Sting, be that on old or new > material. I respect his right to do that, but that > doesn't mean I have to like it. (But I hope I do.) > > Christopher > > > --- Giovanni Pollastri <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> > wrote: > >> What if they will do a crap album? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mario >> To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:43 AM >> Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts >> >> >> >> >> bottom line they should do an new album just to >> surprise everyone and go through with the challenge >> >> this solo stuff is just crap for now > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. 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Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me
by foxie 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

It wasn't meant to sound "arrogant", and if you interpret as "stupid", Mario, that is your prerogative, Mario. I guess we'll see...we'll see what his Sting's next solo record sounds like. And when it comes out, if there is a Police-esque sounding tune on it, point it out to us... Best To All, Rich ----- Original Message ---- From: Mario <marspala(a)yahoo.com> To: Steve Langele <slangele(a)yahoo.com>; Mailing LIst Police <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:44:22 PM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me STeve this is a better response that those other stupid ones we have been seeing. " I don't think he will going back to Police writing style" give me a freakin break that sounds so stupid. Your response is well thought out and makes more sense Steve Langele <slangele(a)yahoo.com> wrote: But at the same time, isn't it possible that these guys could reinvent themselves? I mean, there would have to be something remaining of the "old" Police in their writing style. Sting's writing and playing styles have changed of course, but he wouldn't be writing his solo stuff. Isn't it possible for him, as well as Andy and Stewart of course, to incorporate his(their) current influences and somehow come up with a newer sound that is still "Police-like"? As hard-headed and domineering as he is over Andy and Stewart, I would like to think that they would not just let him walk all over them, especially Stewart. I don't know. It's all just speculation anyways, and probably nothing will happen. They'll finish their tour and go about their seperate ways again.... And we'll all be left wondering... foxie <forfoxie(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hey! Great posts by Chris and, of course, G. Thx guys! Those hardcore fans are truly caught between the rock and the hard place aren't we? When the tour was announced...and I first heard scuttlebutt that a new record was being planned, I was VERY excited. But as the months have passed, the more I thought about it...the more I think that I do NOT want it to happen. And the reason is this...I don't believe that Sting can go back to writing songs in the Police style. And I am not talking about early-Police material....I am talking about "Ghost" and SYNCHRONICITYesque material. I believe not only is he disinterested in doing it...but that he couldn't do it if he tried...because he has been away from writing in that vein for so long. Think of it...what benefit would Stewart give to "A Thousand Years"? What could Andy do with "Desert Rose"? And that is not an attack on Sting's solo material. I love it...well, up to MERCURY FALLING anyway. (And BRAND NEW DAY has "loving" moments on it for me as well.) But...BRAND NEW DAY and SACRED LOVE...THAT is the material that Sting is writing at present...do you think that those tunes are Police material, Police "worthy". I don't. As I mentioned before...I look at this reunion as as way for Sting to go on hiatus...to recharge the songwriter battery within him. And when the fruits of that hiatus bloom, nothing like "Driven To Tears" of "Secret Journey" is coming out. Truth Hits Everybody, Truth Hits Everyone, Rich ----- Original Message ---- From: Giovanni Pollastri To: casimar(a)yahoo.com; police(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:56:27 AM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me >Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I see your point Christopher, but we don't have to consider ouselves as the main element to take care of; WE are a minority, we hardcore fans see things in a different way than the rest of the world, the usual radio listener, the usual magazine reader, etc.. etc.. Dont'get me wrong when I say I don't believe in a new album; I am a great fan and I'd love to see a new album that would sound as great as the previous five albums, but if they won't release it, I'm afraid they have nothing in their hands that could top that sound and image. Nothing wrong with that; at least they haven't ruined their fame like too many other bands have done keeping working together for years and years releasing records that get out of catalogues in three years! If they have to release a new record they have to 'shock the world', not only the fans. Giovanni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Simar" To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts >I was trying not to get in on this one, lol, but I > just wanted to agree with Giovanni. I wouldn't want a > "crap" Police album. But I don't think it's likely. > > Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I > have filled my hard drive with mp3s of them despite > the repetitiveness of the set, the lack of obvious > experimentation, etc. The Police, playing ANYTHING, > are magic. I would love to hear a new song or two. > > 'Solo Sting,' however, has made an increasingly high > percentage of things that I can't really get behind, > starting in the late 1990s and falling from there. I > enjoy his later studio albums at first, then rarely > re-listen. I don't always catch him on tour. The > lute album and the 9/11 live album, I can't listen to. > > I just feel like Sting should do something with The > Police, or just retire. His "legacy" is important, > too, right? And if he can't come up with material > that Andy could do something with (Andy can do > ANYTHING, is my opinion) then, well, he probably can't > come up with good enough material to release under > anyone's name, even his own solo name. That's just my > two cents. I fear my hero has peaked. And I was > hoping The Police would revive his old vitality. > > I don't think I'm in this for nostalgia, at least not > entirely.. I am in it for whatever "it" is that only > those three guys can do, even just noodling around. > I'd rather hear The Police play than hear session > musicians hired by Sting, be that on old or new > material. I respect his right to do that, but that > doesn't mean I have to like it. (But I hope I do.) > > Christopher > > > --- Giovanni Pollastri > wrote: > >> What if they will do a crap album? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mario >> To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:43 AM >> Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts >> >> >> >> >> bottom line they should do an new album just to >> surprise everyone and go through with the challenge >> >> this solo stuff is just crap for now > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. 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Re: [Police] thoughts...a few
by Bokulic, Colin 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

>Why is whether or not they have a "hit" the barometer of success? I >couldn't care less how many people listen to it. I don't think it's a >stretch to argue that most of the best new music these days doesn't >top the charts, or even reach them. Who cares? What difference does it >make? I agree Chris, most of the stuff I listen to these days rarely makes it on the charts. However, most likely it matters to the boys. >But at the same time, isn't it possible that these guys could reinvent themselves? I mean, there would have to be something remaining of the "old" Police in their writing style. Sting's writing and playing styles have changed of course, but he wouldn't be writing his solo stuff. Isn't it possible for him, as well as Andy and Stewart of course, to incorporate his(their) current influences and somehow come up with a newer sound that is still "Police-like"? As hard-headed and domineering as he is over Andy and Stewart, I would like to think that they would not just let him walk all over them, especially Stewart. I don't know. It's all just speculation anyways, and probably nothing will happen. They'll finish their tour and go about their seperate ways again.... And we'll all be left wondering... Very good point Steve, NO ONE plays drums like Stewart can, and with Andy's trademark guitar sound, whatever Sting writes would be filtered through these guys like it used to. It wouldn't be another Sting album with Andy and Stewart as guests. _____________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail communication may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, re-transmit, copy, distribute, act in reliance on or commercialise the information if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail communication, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail and then destroy any electronic or paper copy of this message. Any views expressed in this e-mail communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of TIG. TIG does not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference.

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Re: [Police] Police Digest, Vol 60, Issue 14
by Chris Ryan 15 Mar '08

15 Mar '08

On 14-Mar-08, at 8:56 PM, police-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > I thought the rumour of doing just 1 new song (the 007 movie or > something else) was a good idea. > > That way, they can 'test the water', and if it's a hit, THEN they > could proceed and do a new album. > On the other hand, if the song was a flop, the damage to their > 'legacy' would be minimal (eg. Don't Stand '86) Why is whether or not they have a "hit" the barometer of success? I couldn't care less how many people listen to it. I don't think it's a stretch to argue that most of the best new music these days doesn't top the charts, or even reach them. Who cares? What difference does it make? And I can't see how a poor-to-middling new album could "ruin" their previous releases. Would you really like any of the first five Police records less if the sixth one was on par with a latter-day Sting album? Chris

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Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me
by v.murasso＠libero.it 15 Mar '08

15 Mar '08

Ciao to everybody, we all said so many things about this reunion..... We said more and more when they breaked! Well i was so happy for the reunion, and i wanted to see them more and more..... I'd like to hear a new work from them, and i'd like to hear more from each one, as solo work..... I thing i understand the reason they do not a new album toghether...... It's alright so, i thing it's correct so.....They need to do different things, to express through different way Anyway, everything they do is magic........ and i hope to hear them again, again and again in my life. I need their music and sting's voice in my life, for more and more............... Bye, Vanja ---------- Initial Header ----------- >From : police-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com To : police(a)mailman.xmission.com Cc : Date : Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject : Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me > Hey! > > Great posts by Chris and, of course, G. Thx guys! > > Those hardcore fans are truly caught between the rock and the hard place aren't we? When the tour was announced...and I first heard scuttlebutt that a new record was being planned, I was VERY excited. > > But as the months have passed, the more I thought about it...the more I think that I do NOT want it to happen. > > And the reason is this...I don't believe that Sting can go back to writing songs in the Police style. And I am not talking about early-Police material...I am talking about "Ghost" and SYNCHRONICITYesque material. I believe not only is he disinterested in doing it...but that he couldn't do it if he tried...because he has been away from writing in that vein for so long. > > Think of it...what benefit would Stewart give to "A Thousand Years"? What could Andy do with "Desert Rose"? > > And that is not an attack on Sting's solo material. I love it...well, up to MERCURY FALLING anyway. (And BRAND NEW DAY has "loving" moments on it for me as well.) > > But...BRAND NEW DAY and SACRED LOVE...THAT is the material that Sting is writing at present...do you think that those tunes are Police material, Police "worthy". > > I don't. > > As I mentioned before...I look at this reunion as as way for Sting to go on hiatus...to recharge the songwriter battery within him. And when the fruits of that hiatus bloom, nothing like "Driven To Tears" of "Secret Journey" is coming out. > > > Truth Hits Everybody, Truth Hits Everyone, > Rich > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Giovanni Pollastri <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> > To: casimar(a)yahoo.com; police(a)mailman.xmission.com > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:56:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me > > >Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. > > I see your point Christopher, but we don't have to consider ouselves as the > main element to take care of; WE are a minority, we hardcore fans see things > in a different way than the rest of the world, the usual radio listener, the > usual magazine reader, etc.. etc.. > Dont'get me wrong when I say I don't believe in a new album; I am a great > fan and I'd love to see a new album that would sound as great as the > previous five albums, but if they won't release it, I'm afraid they have > nothing in their hands that could top that sound and image. > Nothing wrong with that; at least they haven't ruined their fame like too > many other bands have done keeping working together for years and years > releasing records that get out of catalogues in three years! > If they have to release a new record they have to 'shock the world', not > only the fans. > > Giovanni > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Simar" <casimar(a)yahoo.com> > To: <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts > > > >I was trying not to get in on this one, lol, but I > > just wanted to agree with Giovanni. I wouldn't want a > > "crap" Police album. But I don't think it's likely. > > > > Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I > > have filled my hard drive with mp3s of them despite > > the repetitiveness of the set, the lack of obvious > > experimentation, etc. The Police, playing ANYTHING, > > are magic. I would love to hear a new song or two. > > > > 'Solo Sting,' however, has made an increasingly high > > percentage of things that I can't really get behind, > > starting in the late 1990s and falling from there. I > > enjoy his later studio albums at first, then rarely > > re-listen. I don't always catch him on tour. The > > lute album and the 9/11 live album, I can't listen to. > > > > I just feel like Sting should do something with The > > Police, or just retire. His "legacy" is important, > > too, right? And if he can't come up with material > > that Andy could do something with (Andy can do > > ANYTHING, is my opinion) then, well, he probably can't > > come up with good enough material to release under > > anyone's name, even his own solo name. That's just my > > two cents. I fear my hero has peaked. And I was > > hoping The Police would revive his old vitality. > > > > I don't think I'm in this for nostalgia, at least not > > entirely.. I am in it for whatever "it" is that only > > those three guys can do, even just noodling around. > > I'd rather hear The Police play than hear session > > musicians hired by Sting, be that on old or new > > material. I respect his right to do that, but that > > doesn't mean I have to like it. (But I hope I do.) > > > > Christopher > > > > > > --- Giovanni Pollastri <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> > > wrote: > > > >> What if they will do a crap album? > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Mario > >> To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com > >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:43 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> bottom line they should do an new album just to > >> surprise everyone and go through with the challenge > >> > >> this solo stuff is just crap for now > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Police mailing list > > Police(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > > > > __________ Informazione NOD32 2945 (20080313) __________ > > > > Questo messaggio è stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 > > http://www.nod32.it > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Police mailing list > Police(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > _______________________________________________ > Police mailing list > Police(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police >

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Re: [Police] A few thoughts
by Bokulic, Colin 15 Mar '08

15 Mar '08

I want to hear more Andy and Stewart songs done 'Police Style' ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:10:58 -0700 From: "Mitch Darby" <mitch(a)harashick.com> Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts To: <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <007401c8855f$7fabc510$a064a8c0(a)harashick.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Paolo wrote: > I don't understand why many people think a new Police album would be a bad idea Well I certainly don't. I'd love a new album (knowing full well that it [and they] would be quarter-century removed from their previous five). All I'm saying is that they don't *owe* us a new album and I personally don't want to see a new one from them if it is a "by-the-numbers" kind of thing. I only want them to continue if they are happy and feel challenged within the band. _____________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail communication may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, re-transmit, copy, distribute, act in reliance on or commercialise the information if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail communication, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail and then destroy any electronic or paper copy of this message. Any views expressed in this e-mail communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of TIG. TIG does not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference.

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Re: [Police] A "crap" album?
by Jenny Dolan 14 Mar '08

14 Mar '08

A new record? A crap recording? I guess that's possible, anything's possible, and I love all of Sting's solo work, or at least a vast majority of it to a certain degree, so how bad could it be? He was, after all, the driving force behind most of their previous work, writing & arranging the music/instumentals/lyrics/vocals ...which reminds me of how poorly they worked--or didn't work--together at the end ...which again leads me to the logical conclusion that, well, another entire **new material** Police album is highly unlikely. Although I have done neither, I'm guessing that touring w/ your band mates is quite different than the creative process of making a new record and holing yourself up with your band mates. So speculation of a new album "good" or "bad" isn't really anything more than a fantastical fan fantasy. Unless Stewart is willing to ride that tumultuous roller-coaster once again... SoCalJen ----- Original Message ---- From: Giovanni Pollastri <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> To: Mario <marspala(a)yahoo.com>; police(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:34:25 PM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts What if they will do a crap album? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mario To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:43 AM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts bottom line they should do an new album just to surprise everyone and go through with the challenge this solo stuff is just crap for now Well I certainly don't. I'd love a new album (knowing full well that it [and they] would be quarter-century removed from their previous five). All I'm saying is that they don't *owe* us a new album and I personally don't want to see a new one from them if it is a "by-the-numbers" kind of thing. I only want them to continue if they are happy and feel challenged within the band. _____________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail communication may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, re-transmit, copy, distribute, act in reliance on or commercialise the information if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail communication, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail and then destroy any electronic or paper copy of this message. Any views expressed in this e-mail communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of TIG. TIG does not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference. _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police In this desert that I call my soul I always play the starring role Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police __________ Informazione NOD32 2945 (20080313) __________ Questo messaggio h stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 http://www.nod32.it -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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