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A question for all you other vinyl junkies out there...
by the-police＠t-online.de 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

Hello, There are various Police 7" singles from the US which are pressed on translucent red vinyl. So far I've found the following: - Roxanne: Forget me nots re-issue and 2 different memories series re-issues - Message in a bottle: Standard & poster p/s - Bring on the night - Don't stand so close to me ... I'm not finished yet but there are more to follow I havn't really cared about those in the past but anybody got any clue why these were actually made? So far I could only identify stock copies and not a single promo copy on translucent red vinyl. Maybe you can also have a look at your copies and let me know whether you have any of the above listed on standard black vinyl. Cheers, Joerg

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The Police
by mr beat 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

I don't care much for Sting now, only The Police & Stewart Copeland. Anyone out there got any Klark Kentish gossip? Any more news on re issues with extras? A POLICE DVD?????? ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [Police] the tour
by Stingfan222＠aol.com 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

Well written, and exactly as I feel! Michelle In a message dated 10/20/04 10:53:39 AM, slangele(a)yahoo.com writes: > > My fellow Sting fans.... > > > > You know, I'm really surprised at all the criticism that Sting's latest > music is getting. He has been in a slow progression towards this style of music > ever since "Mercury Falling" in my humble opinion. Each album gets more and > more "electronic" and "over-produced" as some people seem to be fond of > saying. And in a way, I must agree with that assessment. Granted I have not > seen him live on the Sacred Love tour as many times as most of you it sounds > like, but I did get a chance to see him for this tour in Feb. and the songs do > sound different onstage, mostly because they can't be as complicated as in the > studio. There's nothing wrong with that, and plenty of bands/musicians > sound different onstage than on their albums. I'm sure I'm not imparting any > great wisdom here. All my friends, including myself, think that Sacred Love is > a great album. I am first and foremost a Police fan however. My friends and > I grew up on the Police and there's not a bone in my body that doesn't wish > that some miracle will occur, and Sting will awaken from the spell he is > under and make amends with Andy and Stewart and return to one of the greatest > 3-piece bands there has ever been. I've never been crazy about the direction > Sting has taken with his music, but compare it with the cheap pop music that is > out there, and it is still a "quality" product in my eyes. Nobody is more > brilliant and talented than Sting. > >

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Fwd: RE: [Police] the tour
by Steve Langele 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

My fellow Sting fans.... You know, I'm really surprised at all the criticism that Sting's latest music is getting. He has been in a slow progression towards this style of music ever since "Mercury Falling" in my humble opinion. Each album gets more and more "electronic" and "over-produced" as some people seem to be fond of saying. And in a way, I must agree with that assessment. Granted I have not seen him live on the Sacred Love tour as many times as most of you it sounds like, but I did get a chance to see him for this tour in Feb. and the songs do sound different onstage, mostly because they can't be as complicated as in the studio. There's nothing wrong with that, and plenty of bands/musicians sound different onstage than on their albums. I'm sure I'm not imparting any great wisdom here. All my friends, including myself, think that Sacred Love is a great album. I am first and foremost a Police fan however. My friends and I grew up on the Police and there's not a bone in my body that doesn't wish that some miracle will occur, and Sting will awaken from the spell he is under and make amends with Andy and Stewart and return to one of the greatest 3-piece bands there has ever been. I've never been crazy about the direction Sting has taken with his music, but compare it with the cheap pop music that is out there, and it is still a "quality" product in my eyes. Nobody is more brilliant and talented than Sting. Anne-Jelmer Drent <annejelmer(a)hotmail.com> wrote:From: "Anne-Jelmer Drent" To: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:12:35 +0200 Subject: RE: [Police] the tour CC: Please correct me when I am wrong. Your saying that because of the stage limitations, the songs sound better then the album, right? So even with this, "less wrapping" the concerts are getting bad reviews. Makes me think there might be something wrong with the quality of the product. A good product is a good product even if the wrapping might be bad. One other question, to all of you. Isn't there something we can do to get the message to Sting how we think about his performances. I'm thingking about soeone in a "Meet and, not greet but... Tell him what's on my mind" Quickly jumping off, before causing a riot.! C-ya! Anne-Jelmer -----Original Message----- From: police-bounces+annejelmer=hotmail.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:police-bounces+annejelmer=hotmail.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Sweetmomb(a)cs.com Sent: 20 October 2004 15:51 To: Police(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Police] the tour Hi -- delurking for a moment to say that I enjoyed my one tour date that I was able to attend (Hershey PA) -- Yes, Annie was amazing, but the best thing about the show was that the limitations of live stage appearance made it impossible for Sting's songs to be as overproduced as they are on the CD's. Why is no one talking about that? It has been my biggest disappointment with Sting's music. I can't think of a single song on the last album that WOULDN'T have been better with less production! Comparing Sting and Annie is meaningless unless you compare the production values -- after all, we know they both have amazing voices/talent; we, the consumers, only get to see the package they present to us for our consumption, and it's all in the packaging! Stepping down carefully from the soapbox, Holly _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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the tour
by Sweetmomb＠cs.com 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

Hi -- delurking for a moment to say that I enjoyed my one tour date that I was able to attend (Hershey PA) -- Yes, Annie was amazing, but the best thing about the show was that the limitations of live stage appearance made it impossible for Sting's songs to be as overproduced as they are on the CD's. Why is no one talking about that? It has been my biggest disappointment with Sting's music. I can't think of a single song on the last album that WOULDN'T have been better with less production! Comparing Sting and Annie is meaningless unless you compare the production values -- after all, we know they both have amazing voices/talent; we, the consumers, only get to see the package they present to us for our consumption, and it's all in the packaging! Stepping down carefully from the soapbox, Holly

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Sting/Annie show?
by Don Morris 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

Hello all, It's been a long time since I've posted here. Due to financial reasons, I had to skip the Sting tour this year, and I was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to offer a copy of a show for trade. I have a ton of stuff, and I also have acquired a Phil Collins boot from his tour. Please e-mail offline, Regards, Don in Sunny Florida _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

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Re: Toronto Review
by Ted Engel 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

The linchpin to Trini's argument is this: >> This sound problem is the main reason Annie Lennox is stealing these shows. Having seen but one show this tour--and an early one at that--I'm not in a position to evaluate the statement. What do all of you think? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now.

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Toronto review: Annie Blows Sting Off The Stage! Sting, Fire your Sound Engineer!
by Trini 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

I agree with the critics, Annie is clearly blowing Sting off the stage, 10 million French men can't be wrong. There is absolutely no way an objective fan can listen to the quality of the sound and music from Annie's set and then Sting's and not hear the drastic difference. Anyone who is willing to listen without bias will see and hear music that is clean, crisp, warm and rich in sound. Her performance is second to none, her voice, setlist, performance and arrangements simply incredible, I can't get enough of her. I wish Sting took her softer approach to shows instead of this beach party/ stripping/ video fantasy/ rock n roll style party setlist. Enter Sting, and sad to say, the music sounded like pure noise compared to Annie's clean sound! Sting's sound was void of the clarity, soul and warmth of Annie's set. There is no need to list specifics about what's wrong with Sting's mix as the powers that be are too arrogant to listen to fans or even keep set list promises made to the fan club. There is no nice way to put it and I hate beating a dead horse but Stings FOH engineer needs to be fired IMMEDIATELY, no other way to put it. Maybe Sting's engineer (who joined Sting recently after Mexico) was good in his earlier days but his time has come to hang up his hat and give it up, or get his hearing fixed! This sound problem is the main reason Annie Lennox is stealing these shows. Lining up at the bar between sets, everyone raved how great Annie was, and one patron suggested Sting might have to juggle elephants to top Annie's set. After the show, all I heard walking to my car was how much better Annie was than Sting. Sting fans, you need to take off your Sting hat and call a spade a spade. Here I am traveling all the way from Atlanta to hear Sting play airbass? WTF??? His bass was barely audible. Without the bass in the mix, there is no foundation to the music. The low end was lacking across the board. Fans of Kipper should be happy as he overpowers the entire band in Send Your Love with his sequence/loop. I pay all this money to hear the incredible Keith Carlock sound like some ordinary drummer, not the incredible craftsman that he is? His two toms immediately above his kick (7 1/2x10 and 8x10 tom) were nowhere in the mix. Carlock has been reduced to the sound of a loud over compressed annoying snare drum, void of the full sound and power he had earlier in the tour. Plane tickets, hotel, rental car costs to hear Sting's voice sound sharp and tinny for half the show, totally different from the warm/full sound we had before Mexico under Jim Ebdon? Stings sounded better in Nashville believe it or not when he had no voice because his vocals were warm and full, even though he was hoarse! I also didn't spend these funds to almost loose my hearing when Joy sang WISYN as she was mixed waaayyyy too loud. The bottom line is 25% of the instruments/drums were not in the mix when they should have been and the tonal quality and clarity of the 75% that were in the mix were way off. I could go on and on but why, it's obvious Sting and crew don't care! This band will never be able to get 100,000 people rocking like they did in Lisbon with these sound issues. It's back to the BND tour styling, where you get up and dance to make believe you're getting your money's worth or Sting begs you to get up as he did during EINY, instead of the power of the music making you and the entire hall want to dance as it did in Lisbon and here in Atlanta, St Louis and Nashville! I am not even looking forward to the possibility of a live DVD again, as it's gonna be the same problems as the Universal Amphitheater BND show (check Amazon). Herbie Hancock was great, I prefer the slower Loose My Faith from the July leg of the tour, and the drumming is back to the original at the end of Dead Man's Rope. Peace Trini out! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Police Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7
by mr beat 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

Is HErbie Hancock playing with Sting then? ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [Police] Taken on Keith Carlock website
by Stingfan222＠aol.com 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

Thanks for the link, it was a nice way to wake up this morning (even though I can't stand that song w/her singing it, I need my Sting fix!) Michelle in TX In a message dated 10/19/04 4:38:29 AM, kkttyy(a)wanadoo.fr writes: > > http://www.keithcarlock.com/video/meta/StingWithKeithOnLeno20031211.ram > Enjoy > KTY >

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