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OT Dead/Phish On Topic Orb on Dateline
by JASON HICKS 05 Apr '03

05 Apr '03

Hahaha! One could also try and find parallels between such jam bands and or songs made by them. Like I bet you could find a live phish recording and a live dead recording which for at least 10 minutes are sonically indistinguishable, even tho they are playing "different songs." Except that the Dead had two drummers and two guitarists, and sometimes two keyboardist while Phish has always been just four guys. That's a big difference, personally as a Phish fan who has never liked the Dead I think the music of the two bands is pretty different. The scenes however are very similar and I think that more than anything is what connects the two bands. As far as sampling goes, I think that most purely new musical ideas have been used at this point, so the only real way to create anything "original" these days is by making new combinations of already existing sounds. Andy Warhol, superstar DJs, and mixed media collage type artwork are all well known examples of this. Really it's been going on for quite sometime, isn't rocknroll just a hijacking and exaggeration of pre-existing blues motifs? The creativity arises through novel juxtapositions and context, not necessarily from the actual sounds that make up the compostion. And speaking of context creating art (or destroying art as the case may be), did anyone watch Dateline last night? In the teaser for a story on home improvement scams the background music was Little Fluffy Clouds! I almost spit my beverage all over the couch in shock/disgust. Hearing the Orb on a cheesy network tabloid just about confirms my theory that Western civilization is going to hell in a hand basket, and fast. How's that for some on topic, Orb related news! Jason _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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rb] I like Japan-- does anyone
by Joseph Hannah 04 Apr '03

04 Apr '03

From: "bi11i" <bi11i(a)yahoo.com> Anybody out there speak Japanese? From: "Guiesepe Eisonhawk" <orbbnu(a)yahoo.com> Is "Robert Yokum" or "Lilcybergal" still subscribing to our list? Could you drop me a transmittion soon would like to contact yous. "Narius you here either??" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com

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Re: Orb Digest, Vol 2, Issue 6
by Dgowc1st＠aol.com 04 Apr '03

04 Apr '03

> On 31 Mar 2003 at 12:18, Ben May wrote: > > Come to think of it, has anyone heard any decent quality > live recordings of the orb? At one time I had something like > a dozen boots the one i recorded from boston and offered up here was pretty good. thanks UK, Australia, for standing with us.... God Bless The Troops

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Lecanoscope CD
by K Ivanson 04 Apr '03

04 Apr '03

I almost missed this one. I would imagine that someone here on the Orb list might be interested in this. There's a copy of the Lecanoscope EP " Comparing Notes" up on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2520003555&category=1577 Here's a review from Phase 9 EDITORS PICK ***** Comparing Notes ... a five-track EP of hypnotic, tribal ambient that fuses tablas, layers of pulsating electronics and distant vocal samples into a mesmerising, trance-inducing brew. There may only be five tracks, but they shift and evolve in spectacular fashion. DUAL UNITY, for example, builds from a bubbling rhythmic intro to a shimmering, blissed-out soundscape. At times, the music borders on the paranoia-inducing tension of isolationism or the industrial atmospherics of Forma Tadre or Download, but warm melody prevails throughout. A ghostly, stirring combination of early Delerium, Bill Laswell, Future Sound Of London, On-U Sound and Talvin Singh and well worth investigating. More info at www.metabolicmusic.com

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OT - Martin Luther King
by Mick Szucs 04 Apr '03

04 Apr '03

Found this today and felt the need to share. Probably not news for some of you - he delivered this speech at Riverside Church, New York City, on April 4, 1967 - one year to the day before his assassination. He's speaking of Vietnam, but the truth of his words resonates with me today. The text below is bits and pieces assembled by someone on the web of a much longer speech. You can find the whole thing in PDF at: http://www.stanford.edu/group/King/publications/speeches/Beyond_Vietnam.pdf or html at: http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/058.html --- A time comes when silence is betrayal. Even when pressed by the demands of inner truth, men do not easily assume the task of opposing their government's policy, especially in time of war. Nor does the human spirit move without great difficulty against all the apathy of conformist thought within one's own bosom and in the surrounding world. Moreover, when the issues at hand seem as perplexing as they often do in the case of dreadful conflict, we are always on the verge of being mesmerized by uncertainty. But we must move on. Some of us who have already begun to break the silence of the night have found that the calling to speak is often a vocation of agony. But we must speak. We must speak with all the humility that is appropriate to our limited vision. But we must speak. For we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us. We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for the victims of our nation, for those it calls ''enemy.'' For no document from human hands can make these humans any less our brothers. I think of them, too, because it is clear to me that there will be no meaningful solution until some attempt is made to know them and hear their broken cries. I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin the shift from a thing-oriented society to a person-oriented society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights, are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, extreme materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered. A true revolution of values will lay hand on the world order and say of war, "This way of settling differences is not just." A nation that continues year and year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death. America, the richest and most powerful nation in the world, can well lead the way in this revolution of values. There is nothing except a tragic death wish to prevent us from reordering our priorities over the pursuit of war. This call for a worldwide fellowship that lifts neighborly concern beyond one's tribe, race, class, and nation is in reality a call for an all-embracing and unconditional love for all mankind. We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate, or bow before the altar of retaliation. The oceans of history are made turbulent by the ever-rising tides of hate. History is cluttered with the wreckage of nations and individuals that pursued this self-defeating path of hate. We still have a choice today: nonviolent coexistence, or violent co-annihilation. We must move past indecision to action. If we do not act, we shall surely be dragged down the long, dark, and shameful corridors of time reserved for those who posses power without compassion, might without morality, and strength without sight. Now let us begin. Now let us rededicate ourselves in the long and bitter but beautiful struggle for a new world. If we will but make the right choice, we will be able to speed up the day, all over America and all over the world, when justice will roll down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream. --- Back to my corner now. Peace. Mick P.S. - Oh wait, I'll make it Orb related. You know the version of Assassin on Live '93, with MLK's "I have a dream" speech sampled? I love that track.

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Orbspotting
by Rob_King 04 Apr '03

04 Apr '03

Hehe, just found this 'un today: http://www.tvgohome.com <http://www.tvgohome.com> scroll down to the bottom to read "1.30 Baghdad Comedown"

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Re:[Orb] Ambient Orb?
by Ben May 04 Apr '03

04 Apr '03

What the hell are those things? ><< http://www.ambientdevices.com/cat/images/gallery/AmbientOrb.jpg >http://www.ambientdevices.com/cat/gallery.html >> > >whoa. very cool. > >PJK > > > > >please don't hate me because i can't type..... >--- >All the cool kids are doing it: >HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Orb mailing list >Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: [Orb] OT Dead/Phish
by JASON HICKS 04 Apr '03

04 Apr '03

I couldn't care less as to what the majority of their fans are like. It's the music that matters, not the scene, and I'm certainly not going to let some jackass ruin it for me. I'm sure there are plenty of morons out there that like the Orb too, like the music supervisor for Dateline NBC for instance. . . >From: "Alan" <alanevil(a)bellsouth.net> >Reply-To: What were the skies like when you were >young?<orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> >To: <orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: [Orb] OT Dead/Phish Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 22:26:47 -0500 > >The Phish crowd is not like the Dead crowd in my experience. As much as I >loathe "Deadhead" culture and really could give a crap for Dead music, >their >fans were peaceful and generally self sufficient, and smelled of patchouli. >Phish fans largely consist of rich, white kids with a Maxima, Doc Martens, >several thousand dollars worth of shit stuck through their skin but they've >got the audacity to beg aggressively and generally smell like shit. I >fucking hate them. Things may have changed over the years but I'd just as >soon go sleep under the Interstate near here where the bums have their >little villages than be in the same room with a fucking Phishhead that's >been "following" them for a few weeks. > >It's a shame because I can stand to listen to Phish's music while if I hear >"Driving that Train" one more time I'm going to kill somebody. I'd prefer >Ozric Tentacles any day of the week or Dixie Dregs or Steve Hackett or... > > www.psychicreform.com >Who let that monkey in here!?! > Dada is dead. > Watch your overcoat. > > >`Message: 9 >`Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 21:21:11 +0000 >`From: "JASON HICKS" <ikki1(a)msn.com> >`Subject: [Orb] OT Dead/Phish On Topic Orb on Dateline >`To: orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >`Message-ID: <BAY3-F21Er8pkpLkTgb00014c1d(a)hotmail.com> >`Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >`Phish has always been just four guys. That's a big >`difference, personally as a Phish fan who has never liked the Dead I think >`the music of the two bands is pretty different. The scenes however are >very >`similar and I think that more than anything is what connects the two >bands. > > > >_______________________________________________ >Orb mailing list >Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re:[Orb] Ambient Orb?
by P J Kane 04 Apr '03

04 Apr '03

<< http://www.ambientdevices.com/cat/images/gallery/AmbientOrb.jpg http://www.ambientdevices.com/cat/gallery.html >> whoa. very cool. PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org

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Ambient Orb?
by Mick Szucs 04 Apr '03

04 Apr '03

http://www.ambientdevices.com/cat/images/gallery/AmbientOrb.jpg http://www.ambientdevices.com/cat/gallery.html Peace. Mick

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