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Re: [Orb] OT OT Twins of Evil PLUS on topic sampling question
by Ben May 02 Apr '03

02 Apr '03

>This leads me to re-pose the big question about sampling to the group: >When >you hear a blatant sample from a song you loved as a child, how do you >react >to it? Personally, I think it's cool. This idea that every song that comes out must be a completely new musical idea is both asking a lot of musicians as well as just plain impractical. I mean how can you ask a musician to avoid making his music sound ANYTHING like any other song, especially then these artists have been influenced by existing music. They would end up spending all of their time listening to others' music to make sure their is sufficiently different! Or you would end up with nothing but merzebow-like noise... People have spent hundreds of years trying to emulate Bach. Does that mean their music is inherently bad, or just that Bach's was really really good? ;) >The reason I ask is that a small percentage of people are really offended >by >samples. They hear something they recognize from another song and they >hate >it. I can understand this from the perspective of the musician. Sort of a "He's stolen my idea!" kind of self righteous, petulant reaction. But from a fan? How can you hate something simply because it sounds like something else which you like? One would think that the presence of familiar sounds would predispose you to liking the thing more, not less... I think it also depends on the extent of the ripoff. Like the KLF's god save the queen... It was just absurd of them to do that without at least getting Abba's permission first. I mean, they play like a 40 second clip of the song exactly as is. That's a little disrespectful. But the beastie boys sampling a 6 second led zep drum beat? I would argue that it's such a small part of the sonic palate of the new song, and such an obvious homage to the original song, that that is totally acceptable. >My own generalization about these people is they tend to hate >unfaithful covers of songs, they don't like "jam" bands, their haircuts are >ten to twenty years out of date, and they find anything that hasn't come >out >of the radio in their car as suspect. Hahaha! One could also try and find parallels between such jam bands and or songs made by them. Like I bet you could find a live phish recording and a live dead recording which for at least 10 minutes are sonically indistinguishable, even tho they are playing "different songs." Plus, is anyone here going to stand up and argue that 98 Degrees, the Backstreet Boys, etc are truly "musically unique?" I mean come on, these pop bands are concieved and controlled by corporate entities all trying to sell the same products to the same audience. The similarities between these groups is apalling, even if they may not share the exact same sampled rif ($10 goes to the person who finds such a rif/drum loop which two of these groups share! :P) _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: [Orb] OT: 26 mixes 4 cash
by JASON HICKS 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

Yeah it's nice to finally have all of these brilliant mixes in one place, much like the I would imagine the Auntie Aubreys would function for the non-fanatical Orb fan. I also really like how disc 1 is more mellow and disc 2 is a little more weird/abrasive, which is a nice way to showcase the different aspects of the Cornish madman. Awesome collection. Jason >From: Rene <bay_addict(a)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: What were the skies like when you were >young?<orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> >To: orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: [Orb] OT: 26 mixes 4 cash >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:23:02 -0800 (PST) > > > > anyone bought this Aphex Twin remix discs yet? great stuff. it's nice to >have the Curve remix on CD. my first cd i've bought in a long time. >-rene > > > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! >_______________________________________________ >Orb mailing list >Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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OT OT Twins of Evil
by Alan 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

This is probably not everyone's cup of tea but I had downloaded the songs that used to be available at www.twinsofevil.com and had burnt them to a disc with a bunch of Beck, System 7, and other stuff on it when they started playing while I was working. Tons of fun, especially the one that sampled Styx. There's only one song up there now but it's really good. Maybe you would let the rest of the list in on the other cuts, Kim? www.psychicreform.com Who let that monkey in here!?! Dada is dead. Watch your overcoat.

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RE: [Orb] depleted humanitarium
by Ben May 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

>This is the orb list, not an alt.binaries.fox.cnn.war.iraq.net.com.org >SITE! That's not a site. Its a newsgroup. Big difference. Does that one even exist? :-P >Can we just talk >about all things Orb. Well technically as this is an unmoderated mailing list, we can talk about anything we want. You can always delete messages which you aren't interested in, and so far people have been pretty good about maintaining relevant subject headers so it should be obvious to you which messages are off topic. I hate to advocate people leaving the list, but that's also always an option. Basically the answer to this, as childish as it may sound, is "We can talk about whatever the heck we want, and it's encumbant upon YOU to decide what to screen out." That's simply the nature of the medium. >We can watch all this shit on TV, FOX, CNN, BBC, >whatever the station is, it will be on there. Why not just leave the war >out >of this list for the duration. Well personally I find individual opinions FAR more interesting and relevant than the output of any bullshit news channel. So I for one say continue the discussion. You know stringer, it's interesting to me that so far everyone who has presented arguments against the war has been more than willing to talk about these issues, whereas you who support the war (I am guessing that you do, given your previous responses) seem to want to stifle anyone's opinion that doesn't match yours. Its cool if you want to disagree, in fact I would hope that if your beliefs differ from mine or others that you feel free to voice them, and I am interested in hearing them. But please be respectful of others opinions and dont try to to stifle debate. :) PS: For the record, the content provided by any and all of the news media outlets you listed above does not count as "debate" in my book. In fact I would be more inclined to listen to what is said on this list than what is said in any news media outlet... _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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apology online/ CSI vs. Orb
by Lucas Strauss 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

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OT: Subliminal Advertising
by kim 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

This is way off topic, but at least it's not about the war plus it's damn funny :) Make sure to have your speakers on. Enjoy! http://albinoblacksheep.com/flash/subliminal.php

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re: moderators
by Mike VandeVelde 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

Hey well how's it goin all y'all. I don't know but jeeze I'm tired of all the 'keep yer yap shut about yer ftp site' and the 'shouldn't that thrash freak keep his mouth shut too' and espeshully the 'no talkin bout the war now'. I'm not gonna unsubsciberate or nothin, cuz there's no better place to get the straight goods on the orb, i'll tell ya whut. But god damn for an unmoderated list there shur is a lot of 'police action' goin round. It almost makes the place down right boring. Not that anyone's asking but i'd vote for a steady stream of ftp addresses, if at least to keep any noobs in the know (and sure along with tips about what archive means exactly), plus whatever the hell came upon thrash's mind last night after he stumbled home from wherever, plus some actual critical thinking about what kind of forget-numbering-them-it's-perpetual-now-motherfucker war we're careening into. I for one am sick to death of the medicating pablum they keep spewing out on the television and have been hunting for as many different alternative views as I can get my hands on, and if people hadn't already spoken up about it much more eloquently than i could you'd be hearing more about it from me. Go and look around, follow some of those links that have been posted, search for some of your own. Route around the censorship that's filtering your experience. If you really think that the invasion and occupation of Iraq is a good idea, then that's much more of a problem than some off topic posting. Get informed. Then at least you could tell someone to knock it off with a humiliating ripost that would make everyone else reluctant to bring it up again. That would keep it interesting. Best of luck ;-(

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Orb Glastonbury 1993 LP
by Filip Montyne 31 Mar '03

31 Mar '03

Have a look at this : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2519703899&category=1581

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RE: [Orb] Orb Glastonbury 1993 LP
by Don Gagen 31 Mar '03

31 Mar '03

If you check Lazlos's discography this boot is known for being a really low quality crowd recording. I've passed it up several times based on that. Don "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com -----Original Message----- From: Filip Montyne [mailto:Filip.Montyne@pandora.be] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 10:09 AM To: orb(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Orb] Orb Glastonbury 1993 LP Have a look at this : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2519703899&category=1581 _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb

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depleted Uranium
by Alan 31 Mar '03

31 Mar '03

I'm sorry* but there is no depleted Uranium in the bombs. Uranium is in armor piercing shells. It's used there because Uranium is incredibly dense and hard (a chunk the size of a brick weighs over 40lbs!) so it tends to plow through other materials (as opposed to lead which goes "splat" on hard surfaces or steel which becomes one with other steel...). Civilians in Bagdad and other cities should be much more worried about the explosives in our warheads, the toxins created by the fires these bombs create, and the anti-aircraft munitions and missiles being fired upwards (they've gotta come down somewhere). Later they'll need to worry about our bullets. *I said I wouldn't post on this topic anymore. So shut up about it already! www.psychicreform.com Who let that monkey in here!?! Dada is dead. Watch your overcoat.

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