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Mast Step - Rigging -
by Josh Bloom 10 Mar '16

10 Mar '16

Ahoy Sailors! I am new to the group as I just bought an M23 and am starting to fall in love. My dad and I are in the process of redoing all the woodwork on the inside and out. We wet sanded it all with teak oil and then put about 8 coats of varnish on all the interior hatch covers, and are getting ready to do all the wood on the sides down below. I am towing the boat tomorrow over to my dad's driveway in St Paul to save drive time back and forth from the boat while we do some work. I am going to also go thru all of the standing rigging and probably redo it all. Looking for tips there if anyone has instructions they can send to me. Another one of my projects is the mast step. It is free span under the mast inside the boat. Mine is 1982 for the vintage, so newer boat with respect to how they do the decks. I noticed there is sag and deck flex under the mast. My plan was to cut it out and redo it and I wanted to see if anyone else has done that and what tips they can share with me and if you might have some pictures!! Please advise, as I can use the help. Thank you all so much in advance. Sailor Boy Josh [cid:CFAA3547-786A-4CF9-8E25-0832AE3CD41D] [cid:C7C32AF5-AB64-46CD-A555-0DFB682504E9] Sent from my iPhone ~ Josh Bloom Principal B.C.R.E. | Retail Services 790 Cleveland Avenue South |Suite<x-apple-data-detectors://4> 206 St. Paul, MN 55116<x-apple-data-detectors://5/0> T 651 315 7863<tel:651%20315%207863> | C 651 207 3157<tel:651%20207%203157> | F 651 528 6723<tel:651%20528%206723> <mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> josh(a)bloomcommercial.com<mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> www.bloomcommercial.com<x-apple-msg-load://461C5C40-FF1B-4002-A7EF-0E2DD4798191/www.bloomcommercial…> Bloom Commercial Real Estate Josh Bloom Principal B.C.R.E. | Retail Services 790 Cleveland Avenue South | Suite 206 St. Paul, MN 55116 T 651 315 7863 | C 651 207 3157 <mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> josh(a)bloomcommercial.com<mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> www.bloomcommercial.com [CoStar Award] Bloom Commercial Real Estate CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission and any attachments accompanying it contain confidential information belonging to the sender that may be protected by the client or work product privileges. The information is intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Any unauthorized interception of this transmission is illegal. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then destroy all copies of this transmission.

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Re: M_Boats: Float on
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 10 Mar '16

10 Mar '16

'keen knowing eye..' never let them know the ....... {;>) GO we should organize ----all the Phoenix area Montgomerys for a day or weekend sail at LP before the you know what gets here...interested? In a message dated 3/8/2016 10:45:05 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, drifkind(a)acm.org writes: Having run out of excuses, my wife and I took my/our slightly restored M17 up to Lake Pleasant, north of Phoenix, to see if it would float. My wife is not a sailor (and you might say that makes us even). She has more time in this boat than I do, though, as twenty years ago she spent two months living aboard it one summer, in a slip at Shelter Island, San Diego, with her dog, Blue. The boat has been out of the water for ten years (I think I keep saying that a lot) and I’ve been out for longer. Setting up took longer than I planned, even though I planned on taking longer than I expected. Need to work on organization. Also need to learn how to operate a trailer. I don’t think you’re supposed to get quite as wet as I did. Maybe that’s because the outboard, which has been running perfectly all week in a test tank (aka trash can) declined to work. Anyway, walking the boat off the trailer got me up to my waist. The boat itself held water (I mean held it out) and the little breeze was in a good direction, so we sailed off the dock. Let me tell you a complete lie about how competently and easily we sailed out of the marina. No, let’s just pass over lightly. The wind was weak and shifty and we might have done better paddling with our hands, but out on the lake it picked up a bit. Occasionally I stopped cursing. Sometimes it was pretty nice. Heading back to the ramp I wasted more time prodding the motor, sailed right past the dock downwind, and had to work back up to it. We made it with the grace of an ostrich on ice skates; I soaked myself to the waist again getting back on the trailer. A fellow brought another sailboat in to the dock a few minutes after us. He said, “Was that you that sailed out of here a while ago?” I mumbled excuses. “No,” he said, “it looked really good. I want to try that some time.” I grew several inches taller and gazed into the distance with the keen knowing eye of the weathered sailor.

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Float on
by David Rifkind 09 Mar '16

09 Mar '16

Having run out of excuses, my wife and I took my/our slightly restored M17 up to Lake Pleasant, north of Phoenix, to see if it would float. My wife is not a sailor (and you might say that makes us even). She has more time in this boat than I do, though, as twenty years ago she spent two months living aboard it one summer, in a slip at Shelter Island, San Diego, with her dog, Blue. The boat has been out of the water for ten years (I think I keep saying that a lot) and I’ve been out for longer. Setting up took longer than I planned, even though I planned on taking longer than I expected. Need to work on organization. Also need to learn how to operate a trailer. I don’t think you’re supposed to get quite as wet as I did. Maybe that’s because the outboard, which has been running perfectly all week in a test tank (aka trash can) declined to work. Anyway, walking the boat off the trailer got me up to my waist. The boat itself held water (I mean held it out) and the little breeze was in a good direction, so we sailed off the dock. Let me tell you a complete lie about how competently and easily we sailed out of the marina. No, let’s just pass over lightly. The wind was weak and shifty and we might have done better paddling with our hands, but out on the lake it picked up a bit. Occasionally I stopped cursing. Sometimes it was pretty nice. Heading back to the ramp I wasted more time prodding the motor, sailed right past the dock downwind, and had to work back up to it. We made it with the grace of an ostrich on ice skates; I soaked myself to the waist again getting back on the trailer. A fellow brought another sailboat in to the dock a few minutes after us. He said, “Was that you that sailed out of here a while ago?” I mumbled excuses. “No,” he said, “it looked really good. I want to try that some time.” I grew several inches taller and gazed into the distance with the keen knowing eye of the weathered sailor.

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North Carolina ICW Sailing
by Michael Murphy 08 Mar '16

08 Mar '16

Every spring I try to make a couple of trips to the IntracoastalWaterway between Morehead City and Wilmington NC. The ICW in this area is a series of linked sounds, creeks, and ocean inlets. The sailing season starts in January but is over by mid-May. Strong currents, limited depths, and narrow passages make this area 99% power boat country, and as the weather gets warmer they are more and more in use. Additionally, early May sees the start the annual migration of large cruising boats intent on getting from South to North ASAP. Separated from the ocean by a narrow barrier island and a mile of marsh & small hammocks of trees you can often hear the surf pounding as you sail. Eleven inlets over a 90 mile route connect the ICW to the ocean. These inlets are what make the sailing interesting. Imagine a big tub with eleven spigots and drains, large and small, and cosmic forces are opening them at different times and degrees. Also imagine some of those spigots fed first into other tubs which then drain into your tub after the spigot is turned off. Finally imagine that NOAA only officially informs you of when two of the major spigots are on or off. The other times are subject to extrapolation, or more importantly*, *that colloquialism referred to as* local knowledge* in some guides and pilots. Well I got some local knowledge on yesterday’s trip. I arrived at the public ramp in Hampstead expecting to catch a slack tide to start my sail south. Ouch, I guessed wrong on slack tide. With the wind at 2-3 knots I could make less than ½ knot in mid-channel. By hugging the shore I found less current and could make ¾ knot against the flow. With the slightest distraction from the helm I could easily make headway backwards which I did once or twice. At one point a paddle-boarder passed me. Time for Plan B which was to motor southwards until the wind came up. Around noon a burgeoning sea breeze started to develop and I started to creep back . By 1 PM it was possible to sail a pleasant 11 mile beam reach at 3 knots back to the ramp. Occasionally it was necessary to harden up to a close reach to get closer to the shore. Had to stay close to the shore again because after crossing the Little Topsail Inlet I picked up a foul current again. It is usually possible to sail within five or six boat-lengths of the seaward side of the ICW in these coastal areas. However, near the inlets it is necessary to avoid bars encroaching onto the ICW waterway . The other areas to watch out are where dredging operations have created new islands. These may have shallow areas around them. Where dredge material has been deposited onto existing islands or marshes the deeper water (3-5’) often comes close to the shore. On the landward side of the waterway the shallow water reaches out several hundred feet in places.

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My boom for commentary...
by Jazzy 05 Mar '16

05 Mar '16

Hi all, I put the additional cleat on today for the outhaul. I went straight to the top of the todo list! I will run the reefing line through the black cleat as you guys suggested. While I was at it, I took a short video showing everything on my boom for your perusal and commentary. There are little stainless "hooks" on the boom that I'm not quite figuring as well as the bungie line. I assume they're related. Anything you guys can tell me about any of the doo-dads would be greatly appreciated! https://www.dropbox.com/s/4191rycv9op2raq/20160305_145441%20%281%29.mp4?dl=0 Jazz

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Compasses
by Cliff Vaughan 05 Mar '16

05 Mar '16

So what is the difference between a sailboat compass and one for a powerboat? I am considering this Ritchie Explorer S-53G Compass for my M-15

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Montgomery 15 Compass Solution
by David Grah 05 Mar '16

05 Mar '16

I thought I would share the compass solution I selected for my Montgomery 15. Last summer we spend a few days navigating in and out of fog on a unfamiliar lake with plenty of rocks and islands to run into, a chart with not much detail, and not many GPS points to navigate by. I used a very simple compass intended, I think for kayaks (a Ritchie Navigation SportAbout Hand Bearing Compass http://www.westmarine.com/buy/ritchie-navigation--sportabout-hand-bearing-c…) It worked but only if kept level and, since there were no handy level surfaces nearby, I had to hold it to use it and that complicated my navigational process. Last fall I queired this group for suggestions on better options and got a lot of good ideas. The ones that appealed to me the most were a Richie V-57.2 Explorer Compass https://www.ritchienavigation.com/research-compasses/compass-by-series/expl… mounted on a drop board and Plastimo compass http://www.westmarine.com/buy/plastimo--iris-100-universal-compass--254666 mounted somewhere (but also with the ability to take it off and take sightings with it). I ordered both but ended up using the Plastimo mounted with bungie on the back of the sliding hatch. I've only tried it once but am happy with it. I am keeping the Richie because it is a really nice compass and I will probably use for something it at some point. I like that I mounted the Plastimo in a good spot to easily look at while navigating while at the tiller and like that I can also take it off and lay it on the cockpit bench behind me and navigate looking backward while I am leaning against the back of the cabin (I know it is sort of bad to do this, but still enjoy relaxing like that). I secure the compass with a thin elastic cord through two holes in the hatch and routed around plastic screws and nuts I added to the compass. It stays put and isn't bothered if you bump it going in and out of the cabin. See (hopefully) attached photos. David GrahBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky

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Montys for Sale..
by Jazzy 05 Mar '16

05 Mar '16

If anyone needs another Monty 17, there are currently 2 for sale locally on Seattle craigslist. Jazz

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Photobucket Experiment...
by Jazzy 04 Mar '16

04 Mar '16

I've created a generic photobucket account to see how photobucket works. It seems quite nice and I believe you can share whole albums...as well as individual photos. One drawback I see is that for free you don't get a whole lot of space. But if you like it, its maybe worth paying for. http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/montyrider/library/Jazzy I'm willing to share the login and password if you guys need to use it or just want to give it a shot. I made an album in there for Tom, lets ride him until we see pics! hahaha Go TOMMMM!!!! -= Jazz

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North Carolina Cruising the Pamlico river
by Michael Murphy 04 Mar '16

04 Mar '16

Made my first rip of March on the Pamlico River yesterday. My cruise plan was to access the Pamlico River from North Creek and sail 7 miles eastwards to the mouth of the Pungo River. March can be the start of the good sailing in Eastern North Carolina. Sunny skies, mild temperatures and fair winds are not unusual. My trip on the Pamlico River met two of these three criteria. Temperatures were forecast for the low 50’s; a little cold for good cruising but OK for shorter trips. While I waited on the south side of the river for the ferry the temperature was a cool 37 degrees. Not bad for the start for the day; it could only get warmer, right? On the north side of the river the temperature registered 34 degrees and 5 miles down the road at North Creek it was an even chillier 32 degrees. North Creek is one on five small creeks linked to the Pamlico River by a well-marked inlet. Four of the creeks provide good bottoms and wind protection from all directions. I spent a very smooth night there a few years ago while winds of 15-16 knots and a 40 mile fetch created 2-3 foot waves on the river. The private ramp at north Creek ($5) is easy to launch and retrieve from although it’s a bit primitive. A NW wind of 8-9 knots allowed sailing at a comfortable close reach for most of the easterly trip. The only disadvantage was that it meant I was sitting in the shadow of the sail. After an hour I had to put my parka on over my PFD. Shortly after that I put on a second hat; oh boy, a real “2 hat cruise”. Hugging the shoreline I had flat water. The winds held around 8 knots until 1030 when they fell to 5-6 knots. Unlike the Pamlico which has an E-W orientation, the Pungo River lies N-S. The northerly winds had created larger waves and organized the sea foam into long streaks. As the wind died the sailing was through confused chop and little power to push through it. The last mile on the Pungo’s mouth took as long as the previous 2 miles in the lee of the Pamlico’s shore. The good news was that as I turned back I had the sun at my back and soon lost the 2nd hat and eventually the parka. Boat speed on the return trip varied between 1 and 4 knots with an average speed of 3 knots. Due to constantly changing wind directions and strength I sailed from close hauled to runs in 5 to 10 minute cycles. There would be a nice North wind on the beam for 3-4 minutes followed by a 3-4 knot wind from East which would die after just a few minutes. After a short calm the wind would return from the NW. This gave me 2-3 minutes of sailing close hauled before it went back to the North again. The pattern repeated itself for almost two hours when surprise (!), it shifted to the South also. As I entered the North Creek Inlet, the winds were veering from South and East, perfect to get back to the ramp. I have some theories about these rhythmic shifts but surmise it had something to do with the approaching low pressure system.

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