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Water through centerboard hole
by Jazzy 15 Jun '16

15 Jun '16

Hi all, Do you guys get water splashing inside from the centerboard hole? I get it sailing and when raising it. What are your solutions? Also, got some help (on account of my pissed off back) and El Nino is looking smart and capable in his new home! Jazz

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Re: M_Boats: Mystery block. ..
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 15 Jun '16

15 Jun '16

it's obvious - RubberChicken Nest block - (Jerry sez that is OEM...eee iiii eeee iii oooohh). Have fUn - Go Sailing! local sailing season about to end with highs forecast above 119F for this weekend - but it is a dry heat. In a message dated 6/15/2016 8:10:35 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, chbenneck(a)gmail.com writes: On 6/15/2016 9:56 AM, Timothy JarviMD wrote: hoistable perch for the Captain's parrot? > Hoist-able masthead light? > Jolly Roger colors...? > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jazzy <jazzydaze(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> 3 out of 3 say topping lift, I'll go with that! >> >> Jazz >> On Jun 15, 2016 5:59 AM, "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >>> For a topping lift perhaps? >>> >>> Mr. Bones >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Los Angeles Post >>> This Gas Station Attracts Customers In An Unorthodox Way >>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/576150de4b65d50dd22b4st01vuc >>> >>>

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Re: M_Boats: Mystery block. ..
by bownez＠juno.com 15 Jun '16

15 Jun '16

For a topping lift perhaps? Mr. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Los Angeles Post This Gas Station Attracts Customers In An Unorthodox Way http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/576150de4b65d50dd22b4st01vuc

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Mystery block. ..
by Jazzy 13 Jun '16

13 Jun '16

Hi all l, I was just installing a wind vane for the birds to break, and I ran across a little block up there I hadn't noticed...ideas? Jazz

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Splashed Pajarita today!
by John Schinnerer 13 Jun '16

13 Jun '16

First time out this year, later than desired for various reasons but glad to get her on the water. Launched at Emigrant lake just minutes away (I live in Ashland, OR) from home. Busy warm Sunday, lots of testosterone boats zooming around pushing up some chop to enjoy from time to time. Typical lake sailing, winds variable and shifty but enough to keep moving decently in the afternoon with some gusts to verify she still rounds up nicely if necessary. Anchored in a small cove for a swim and lunch partway through the afternoon. Girlfriend Judy and sailing pal Keith (Ranger 20) along for the day. Steered with the newly installed slide up rudder I got from Rick...that project being part of the delay in getting sailing...works well, thanks Rick! Some other sailboats out too - a beautiful wooden 16 1/2 ft.camp-cruiser (sail-row, centerboard, yawl rig with small mizzen & gaff main). A sunfish off in the distance. Some other sloop-rigged dingy didn't get close enough to ID. A beautifully preserved old Capri 14.2 with sloop rig - a teen boy and his younger brother taking their first "solo" without "Grandpa" on board. Unfortunately, mid-tack apparently, the screws holding the base of their tabernacle sheared off after about 10 minutes and they were dismasted and had to be towed back. Nobody hurt and no other major damamge...just a dunking and some frustration at the short sail & repairs needed. cheers, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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The Latest
by David Rifkind 13 Jun '16

13 Jun '16

Just returning from a few days in San Diego on a trip with a higher than normal disaster factor, even for me. Most of it was not boat related, so I won't bore you with it. I did come close to pranging my boat by, first, trying to motor onto the trailer in a stiff crosswind, and second, failing to recognize that it wasn't working and looking for a new plan. As usual I'm learning a lot, all of it just a bit late.

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Re: M_Boats: The Latest
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 12 Jun '16

12 Jun '16

You got it on the 'Bow down' attitude when on the trailer. I sailed an S2 6.7 and had the bow way down on the trailer. The boat had very poor directional stability when launching as the keel was completely retracted into the hull - had to get it off the trailer smoothly/quickly and start lowering the keel immediately! That is a 22 foot boat with a shorter tongue than the 17 and it would float right off! You may also try a dropped ball mount - deep drop will compensate for some of the ramp angle. Bow down mimicking the angle of the ramp you launch at most freq. will be a BIG help. 14 feet of chain seems like one heck of an extension - how high is your waterline above the ground at the trailer axle? Not fun if they don't go on and off the trailer easily. You will get it dialed in. GO In a message dated 6/12/2016 3:22:48 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, drifkind(a)acm.org writes: > On Jun 12, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > What's that old saying about bad experiences resulting from lack of > experience which then generates good experience???? You mean, good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement? I dunno, I may just be a highly experienced idiot. I feel like the whole trailer thing isn’t as good as it should be. Mine has to go *way* into the water, using a 14’ chain as an extension, to launch. I think the boat sits too high, and isn’t helped by the couple of inches I added replacing the rollers. If a ramp has a 12% slope, every 1-1/2” of boat height is another foot down the ramp you have to go. Also, as the stern starts to float, the bow comes down, and at the extreme rests on the spare tire. It seems like, for the boat to go on and off the trailer neatly, it should be closer to level when it’s *on* the ramp. Maybe it should sit with the bow down, or at least lower, on level ground. On the driveway my boat sits with the bottom of the keel 17” off the ground, and the tip of the prow (for lack of a better point to measure) at 70”. I wonder how that compares to other trailers out there.

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Re: M_Boats: Anchor rollers...
by Keith R. Martin 12 Jun '16

12 Jun '16

Thanks Jazz, Now the pressure is on :-)! I will be sure to post some pictures as soon as I can... On Jun 6, 2016 8:43 PM, "Jazzy" <jazzydaze(a)gmail.com> wrote: You all make valid points. I arrived at the 22lb bruce type anchor by advice from a salty old dude that has been anchoring out permanently for years and has watched many boats drag by him or into him..lol. He seemed very experienced and knowledgeable. He rowed over from his Westlake and asked about El Nino, then we got into this topic, so he was aware of what boat we were talking about. It's possible that I'd be anchored out there all summer and be gone from the boat for extensive periods, so I think overkill is the word here. He passed me his phone number to verify my work or help, so I'm happy about that! I'm still chasing down the last remnants of mooring leads but it doesn't look good, so mooring is plan B. Basically this anchor setup is a pseudo mooring ball, but I can't actually place a mooring ball. I'm def looking forward to those pics! I wonder if the 5 gallon bucket presents a sleeping obstacle? I want my anchor to be instantly deployable, so bowsprit type deal seems ideal if it's workable. Jazz

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Boat launch WA
by Dale Nummi 11 Jun '16

11 Jun '16

I'm in Granite Falls WA and can take a 21' sailboat out . I'm looking for nearby boat launch that might have good sailing for a day? Thank you in advance Dale M17 Lentokala Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > For anyone that is interested, Gig Harbor marine swap is this weekend. > I'll be hunting anchors amd chain. > > Jazz

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Re: M_Boats: Dinghy arrives...
by Jazzy 11 Jun '16

11 Jun '16

All good solutions! I see alot of inflatable kayaks and SUP (stand up paddleboard) at the dinghy dock here. Nice build by the way, I bet that's a fun project. Jazz On Jun 11, 2016 12:29 PM, "jslubliner--- via montgomery_boats" < montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Years ago we used to go to Mexico with Tucson Sailing Club to cruise and race. We had a group member who would arrive with a different, lightweight, crummy dinghy each trip which he would refer to as FOPOYOs. After a while we realized that what he was bringing were marked "For Pool Use Only..." -----Original Message----- From: Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)Q.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2016 11:56 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: Dinghy arrives... What is a SUP? Steve M-15 # 335 and ignorant about floating objects that can be towed behind a boat or described by an accronym -----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 10:36 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Dinghy arrives... Speaking of unusual dinghy choices (not that yours is unusual, Jazz :-) - I know a guy who uses a SUP for his "dinghy." It's a custom SUP by Gary Young in Hawai'i, with a bit of a cargo recess with bungee cargo net in front and removable recess cover in rear, some bungee hold-downs, etc.. Also fun to be towed behind the boat on! Almost lost my shorts one time... cheers, John S. On 06/10/2016 04:57 PM, Jazzy wrote: > Hi all, for anyone that's interested here's a short 3 min video of the > inflatable I bought in case you're looking.. sorry I forgot to shoot the > motor mount. It also comes with 2 seats and the paddles and pump. No > bag! Luckily I have a handy dandy laundry bag it goes right in... > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/o7xh9nlx9vp13yu/miniyacht.mp4?dl=0 > > Jazz > -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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