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Re: M_Boats: M-15 trailering
by Randy Watkins 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Steve, The newsletter went out of publication a couple of years ago. It was a small quarterly publication run by volunteers. I think several folks on this list worked with the newsletter or offered articles, etc. If there is a way to scan the past copies and put them up on the web site that would be a good service. I'm not sure what that would take but perhaps someone might be interested in working with that. Randy W. M15#194 >>> stevemc35(a)attbi.com 03/28/02 09:19AM >>> Randy: What is the 'Montgomery Newsletter' you mention? -- I hadn't heard of it before, but certainly would be interested in subscribing if such a thing exists. -- Steve McClellan 1981 M15 #152 stevemc35(a)attbi.com > I also have a copy of the > Montgomery newsletter that has a plan for building one utilizing PVC. I'll find > that and make a copy for you. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: boom vang choice
by Morris, Giles 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

>Can't live without a topping lift! I'd have to agree. It's easy to rig, and it's such a pleasure not to have the boom swilling around the cockpit. It's only my prejudice, but it does seem as if a solid vang would be a nuisance. Giles Morris Arlington VA Vancouver 25 "Dolphin" Montgomery 15 "Umiaq" Sundry small craft

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RE: M_Boats: "It's quiet." "Yeah--too quiet" (New MSOG stuff)
by Morris, Giles 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

>Please add your favorite sailing books "The Last Grain Race" by Eric Newby. Before making a career as a travel writer he signed on aboard the four masted barque Moshulu in 1938 for what turned out to be the last year of shipping grain from Australia to Britain by sail. Wonderful book. And the Moshulu is now a restaurant on the Philadelphia river front (although when I was there in February it looked closed - temporary?). It's a strange thing to climb a staircase in an up-market restaurant and emerge onto what appears to be the unaltered deck of a ship whose name has been familiar to me for as long as I can remember (the book was my father's). And to stand in the fo'csle, imagining what it was like while rounding the horn. And to look at the heads, remembering Eric Newby's lack of fondness for cleaning them. Giles Morris Arlington VA Vancouver 25 "Dolphin" Montgomery 15 "Umiaq" Sundry small craft

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Re: M_Boats: Topping Lift (was boom vang choice)
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

I use a BoomKicker on my 17 and love it. I sail in very light 'wind' from time to time and find it most helpful. As an additional rig discussion- I use a split mainsheet (forked) and NO traveler; I am a 'small boat guy' and have a penchant for "rigging" but I also believe simple is easy/fast. With the boomkicker and the split mainsheet I am able to have complete control over the mainsail leech (really mean 'twist'), up to the centerline (I do mean centerline)! I am not really a proponent of the boom being above the CL if it is not needed. This rig affords me that control. Now Gary, just shutup and stop rattlin on. BoomKicker- High praise, simple, well made, includes install. tools(!) effective, inexpensive. No Financial interest, always wear eye protection, seatbelts, and try it at home in the backyard first-it saves undue embarassment. Peace and Love. Gary Oberbeck M-17 #316A "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." --Mark Twain C-21 Arizona Foothills 602 943-7252 Office 602 703-7245 Mobile 800 528-8962 Toll Free www.GaryOberbeck.com

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boom vang choice
by Randy Watkins 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

I need to replace the vang on my M15. Does anyone have a recommendation. thanks Randy Watkins btw: A friend of mine is selling his classic 1970 Potter 14. It has the wood spar and boom and in overall good condition. He's asking around $2k with the o/b ( Seagull ) or $1600 w/o. He lives in Houston, Tx. if anyone is interested his email is: "Luce, Matt" <matt.luce(a)mustangeng.com> REgards, Randy W. M15#194

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Re: M_Boats: Bottom paint stripper
by Larry Yake 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

Thanks Joe, I saw that article (from Oct. '99), but was under the impresssion that they had done a more recent test that had some new products. Their promo ad said something about a 4 hour job! Wishfull thinking maybe. It doesn't sound like a pleasant job at any rate. Larry On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 22:51:01 -0800 "Joe Hubert" <joehh(a)attglobal.net> writes: Hi Larry, You can see the first paragraph or so of an article for free. There is a discount on back articles for subscribers, though I don't know how much. Peel Away Still Most Effective Bottom Paint Stripper http://www.practical-sailor.com/pub/25_20/features/4093-1.html http://www.practical-sailor.com/search (search for stripper) Joe M17 #369 "Puff" -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-admin(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Larry Yake Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:22 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Bottom paint stripper Hello fellow M-boaters, Tullamore will be coming home from winter storage next weekend. :-) Among the many projects on my to-do list is re-doing the bottom paint. An advertisement I got recently from Practical Sailor mentions a test they ran on bottom paint stripper with a clear cut winner. I have a subscription starting, but since this was in an earlier issue, I won't be getting that article. If anyone here is a PS subscriber, could I bother you to look back for that article and pass on the results? Also, any personal experience recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks, Larry Y.

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 trailer
by Steve R 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

<Grove777(a)aol.com> wrote: > a little help needed please > am helping a friend move a m15 no trailer.... Here is what I did... too early for much math. The first set of measurements are from the driveway to the boat/trailer. Actually to the top of the bracket - bottom of the bunk board. The second set are from the bow back. Middle of the bracket. The third set are from the centerline to the right side. Middle of the bracket. My trailer has three "ribs". There is a support from each rib for the bunkboards. Units are inches. 1) Vertical Driveway to stem 67 3/4 Driveway to front bunk support 29 3/4 Driveway to mid bunk support 29 even Driveway to rear bunk support 30 even Driveway to bottom of keel 19 even 2) From bow back Stem to front bunk support 80 1/2 Stem to mid bunk support 116 1/4 Stem to rear bunk support 150 1/2 Stem to c/l of axle 98 1/2 3) From centerline out Centerline to front bunk support 22 1/4 Centerline to mid bunk support 22 even Centerline to rear bunk support 21 1/2 Not guaranteed to hold up in a court of law, but should get you close. Not necessarily the most optimum arrangement - I plan to move the boards out and higher. Good luck! Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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RE: M_Boats: boom vang choice
by Morris, Giles 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

>The Laser blocks There's nothing actually wrong with a Laser vang, but because it's such a tightly controlled class they've been using the same components for... oh, thirty-odd years that I know of. They're no longer the best. In fact, just about every (beat-up) Laser that I've sailed has had the same problem with the jam cleat on the vang block -- it doesn't jam (although it does chew up the line something chronic). I think a better solution would be one of the small blocks with integrated cam cleats. Probably cheaper, too, since class-legal Laser parts are expen$ive. BTW: Nothing against the Laser. It's a lovely little boat, and I'd love to have one... Giles Morris Arlington VA Montgomery 15 #264 "Umiaq" Vancouver 25 #002 Dolphin Sundry small craft (but no Laser -- yet)

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Montgomery 17 in the north east
by Magick111＠aol.com 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

I and my wife have retired to the beautiful state of Maine. We are looking to purchase a small seaworthy sailboat to cruse and daysail the coast. Hearing and reading about the Mont 17 have almost made the decision on the choice of boats for us. The mont 17 seems to be juat what we are looking for. I was wondering if some Montgomery 17 owner up in the northeast would take the time to just share a peek at a boat eye to eye. This is a big expenditure for us on a fixed income, so we want to make sure this boat is the right choice. Thank you in advance.Bob and Callie Owens E mail Magick111(a)aol.com. we really enjoy this Montgomery list , keep up the good work.

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Water Line
by Stanley T. Winarski 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

I haven't found anything in the archives on this. Has anyone found a good way to mark the water line when applying bottom paint on an M-15 ? The 17s seem to have a stripe at the waterline already in the mold. I had a "professional" do my M-15 the first time it got bottom painted and I've had to live with the results ever since. I've tried adjusting the painted line to the real water line when I've repainted but haven¹t been able to get it right. It might work if I stowed jerry cans of water in strategic places on the boat to make it conform to the painted waterline but there has got to be a better way. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Stan Winarski M-15, #177, Carol II Stan Winarski M-15, #177, Carol II

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