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Centerboard Won't Drop
by stevemc35＠attbi.com 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

As some of you may remember, I just bought my M15 a few months ago at what I thought was a very good price, knowing it needed a little work and hoping not too much more than that. Well, I finally got the thing off the trailer and up on stands and one of my WORST FEARS HAS BEEN REALIZED. The centerboard will not drop down -- it seems to be frozen up in the centerboard trunk. I have tried banging on it with a rubber mallet a little bit, I tried some selected curses that sometimes work, but no luck whatsoever. Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and if there are any great tips for getting the thing out. I'm afraid to try prying too much for fear of cracking the fiberglass around the slot. I'm considering cutting a hole in the top of the centerboard trunk, that I can push a rod down through. Any suggestions or commiserations welcome. -- Steve McClellan 1981 M15 #152 (still no name -- taking suggestions!) stevemc35(a)attbi.com

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Re: M_Boats: Centerboard Won't Drop
by Randy Watkins 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Steve, You might try just running a water hose in the cockpit and seeing if the water might that might loosen things up. Good luck Randy W. M15#194 >>> stevemc35(a)attbi.com 04/05/02 02:59PM >>> As some of you may remember, I just bought my M15 a few months ago at what I thought was a very good price, knowing it needed a little work and hoping not too much more than that. Well, I finally got the thing off the trailer and up on stands and one of my WORST FEARS HAS BEEN REALIZED. The centerboard will not drop down -- it seems to be frozen up in the centerboard trunk. I have tried banging on it with a rubber mallet a little bit, I tried some selected curses that sometimes work, but no luck whatsoever. Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and if there are any great tips for getting the thing out. I'm afraid to try prying too much for fear of cracking the fiberglass around the slot. I'm considering cutting a hole in the top of the centerboard trunk, that I can push a rod down through. Any suggestions or commiserations welcome. -- Steve McClellan 1981 M15 #152 (still no name -- taking suggestions!) stevemc35(a)attbi.com _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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M15 wanted
by Charless Fowlkes 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

I am looking for leads on an M15 for sale, from the Rocky Mountains to the West Coast. During April I expect to be in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, and points between while on a car trip. phone is 406-587-0192 at home, 406-581-2407 cell Thanks. Charless Fowlkes Bozeman, MT

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Re: M_Boats: hoisting sail, vane
by daideo＠webtv.net 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Tod, great stuff you sent in. I was wondering about your reference to the [two] rudders. Are they flat plate aluminium ? AND, what might be your spin on a foiled rudder for better performance. There was a heated discussion on that matter else where. Don`t want to turn-up the heat here but ! Thanks all, by the way, for all the great info posted here. Very interesting. Terry " Do infants enjoy infancy, as much as adults enjoy adultery"? `Carlin`

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Raise/Lower Sail
by Steve R 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

In the topping lift discussion, Connie mentioned standing on deck vs. standing in the cabin while raising the sails. I have one foot along the toe rail and the other knee on top of the cabin. I have not found a comfort level for this process and am looking for suggestions. I have thought about standing in the cabin as I would avoid climbing up to raise the main, climbing down, going to port and climbing back up for the jib. However, getting bonked by the boom is a concern. How do other group members raise and lower their sails? Thanks in advance, Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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Mast Clearances
by Doug King 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

Does anyone have working mast clearances for the 15, 17 and 23? I know there are factors like load, tide, etc., but just a safe number that generally works with the boats. We can add for the taller mast, if anyone has one and knows how much taller they are. Besides for my own information, I want to post it on the web site boat specs. Thanks, Doug ------------------------------------------ Doug King M-17 #404 "Vixen" Montgomery Sailboats Owners Group Web site: http://msog.org Email: mailto:msog@msog.org

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Re: M_Boats: Topping Lift
by Conbert H Benneck 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

Hi Joe, When I made my topping lift, I installed the smallest (I think it was a Harken) cheek block I could find, at the top of the mast. I use an 1/8" dacron line, which has enough strength so that you can lean on the boom without danger of the topping lift breaking. A bowline to something convenient at the boom end makes life simple. The line then goes through the cheek block and back down the mast to a cleat. (...and I can't tell you at this point if I used what was already there, or if I installed it just for the topping lift). As you say, everything is controlled from the mast - either standing in the cabin - or standing on deck as I do, while raising the main and slacking off on the topping lift. Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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RE: M_boats: Raise/Lower Sail
by Morris, Giles 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

>How do other group members raise and lower their sails? I have the halyards run back to the cockpit, as well as a jib downhaul and a topping lift. Lines all over the place, but they make things easier. FWIW: I have the same setup on Dolphin. Giles Morris Arlington VA Vancouver 25 "Dolphin" Montgomery 15 "Umiaq" Sundry small craft

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Re: M_Boats: Trailer tongue extensions
by Conbert H Benneck 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

Hi Deena & Harvey I launched my Bolger MICRO and the ComPac16 using an old anchor rode as a trailer tongue extension: 10 feet; 15 feet; whatever was needed. The problems are: Lack of directional guidance when launching. My Admiarable would push and pull the trailer tongue to get things lined up properly. It takes longer: You back down. Put blocks under the trailer wheels. Undo the hitch. Pull forward. Get rope out of car trunk. Tie rope to trailer tongue and to car hitch. Take up slack. Remove blocks in back of trailer wheels. Start launching. Retrieving were the same set of problems only in reverse. It works; the rope trailer tongue extension is highly variable; but you soon discover that about 8 feet is all you need to keep the back of the car out of the water. So, I had a trailer tongue extension built by my welding shop for the M15. It consists of a 2" x 2" tube x 8' long. The front end has a normal receiver welded to it. On the bottom side of the trailer, under the tongue, the welder added one "U" strap The aft end of the trailer tongue extension slides into this "U", and is then locked in place by a trailer ball that is welded to the top side of the extension. Now you just hook up the end of the extension to the ball hitch on the car, and you are ready to manoeuvre your boat down the ramp under perfect control. It's a worthwhile addition to your trailer. Makes launching and retrieving much simpler; and keeps the car dry! When not in use, the extension sits on the trailer frame. The front end is held in place with a "U" bolt and the aft end with a bungee cord. It rides nicely that way. Connie Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M_Boats: Not Another Trailer Question
by Conbert H Benneck 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

Steve, My M15's weight is carried by the bunk boards, not the keel rollers. With the M15 on the Trailrite trailer, I can see daylight between the keel and the keel rollers. With the weight of the M15 on the bunk boards, they will be bent to assume the shape of the hull (goodness) since that distributes the load over a greater area. Connie M15 #400 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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