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"Sailing" Magazine
by Honshells 20 Apr '02

20 Apr '02

I wrote to the editor of my favorite American magazine, "Sailing", and asked him to feature the Montgomerys. Because Montys are older designs, he didn't seem too keen on covering the boats themselves, but said he would very much welcome pocket-cruising article submissions featuring the boats. If any of you who contribute cruising adventure stories to the MSOG site are interested in being published in a mainstream magazine, I wrote to: Adam Cort (sailingmag(a)ameritech.net) Deputy Managing Editor Sailing Magazine 125 Main Street P.O. Box 249 Port Washington, WI 53074 Adam's response to my inquiry was: Thanks for the input regarding the Montgomery 17 and 15. They look like neat boats and I would love to see them get more coverage in our magazine. Because they are older designs they are not especially newsworthy in and of themselves, but they could be the perfect vehicle for a pocket cruiser story. In fact, cruising stories featuring smaller boats like the Montgomerys are something we are very much looking for. You wouldn't by any chance know of any writers/sailors who might be willing to give something like that a try? Or, do you know of any Montgomerys that might be available for use/charter that a writer could take out for a cruise? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I have a hunch Adam might feature the M boats themselves, were someone to submit an article. It would pretty cool if one of "Sailing's" staff were able to use/charter a Montgomery for a cruise article, wouldn't it?

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Montgomery 17' Study Plans
by Honshells 20 Apr '02

20 Apr '02

Does anyone have plans (drawings/dimensions) for the M17 that are more detailed than those available in the brochure or sailplan drawing on the MSOG site? I don't know if Lyle Hess ever published the M17 plans themselves, or whether those are proprietary and the sole property of Jerry, but I don't want to loft a new hull, I just want to study more detailed drawings. Thanks!

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Lake Lanier + Misc.
by Steve R 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

Thanks Harvey, Sounds like a good place. We took lessons on a Capri 22 as well. On other subjects, my wife and I took lessons together. I thought it worked out very well, for several reasons, including: *She really did not want to steer, and was happy to be the crew and concentrate on learning those duties. *My first tack resulted in the instructer bellowing: "Steve, you've done this before." That gave me a great deal of credibility in her eyes. I wish I had taken lessons many years before. On yet another subject, Steve Mc you can check the MSOG website for messages you missed during your e-mail curtailment. And the final subject, Steve, (I think) with the little Monty for sale, you may want to list it on the Trailer Sailor Classified board. There is no charge. http://www.trailersailor.com/forums/classifieds/ Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY --- Harvey Wilson <HarveyWilson(a)compuserve.com> wrote: >Hi Steve... > >I've used Lanier Sailing Acadamy's boat rental....they have some decent >boats. In fact, I learned to sail there. > >I don't know what you'd like to rent, but the Capri 22 was one of my >favorites. I'd call and reserve a fin keel if possible. They also have >smaller and larger boats, like Catalina and Hunter 22's, an Ericsson 25+, >Impulse 26 (awesome boat if the still have it!) > >The boats are reasonably well maintained, and they're good folks to deal >with if there's a legitimate problem. I had one with a Pearson 26 several >years ago, and they only charges for an hour, even tho I was out nearly 2 >hrs. > >There may be other boat rental places on Lanier, but it's the only sailboat >rental that I've had dealings with. > > Regards, > > Harvey/Ga > >M-17 Stargazer #294 > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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maiden voyage
by Mark Pavuk 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

Yesterday my friend and I took Cherri's Jubilee out for the first time. We had trailered it to a marina to do bottom paint, change the pennant, and put in the pivot pin. I also added a red boot stripe, so now she looks really flashy. We motored out of the marina, turned into the wind, tried to raise the main, and all hell broke loose, so to speak. The main sail slides kept slipping out of the mast, which also caused the boom to come out of the mast, plus we had mistakenly released the topping lift. I'm sure you all can imagine what those few minutes were like, until we decided to start over again. My point is how do you raise the sail without the slides falling out? My other boat had some sort of "clasp" type thing that held them in unless released, but this has nothing. I couldn't even raise the sail all the way up because the bottom one would slip out. With all that, she sailed beautifully, even with just the main up (I didn't want any more surprises by that time and decided to wait till next time for the jib). I also am missing a genoa block and don't know how and where to replace that - West Marine? While in the marina, the boat got alot of attention and questions, even from some of the 30 - 40 ' sailboat owners. Some were interested in getting one for sailing in the bay. Cherri Pavuk Cherri's Jubilee, M-15 #322 Toms River, NJ

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Maiden Voyage Adventures
by Derfsails＠aol.com 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

Hi: My story is very similar to Wild Hare, took place on Elephant Butte Lake even. We had a Balboa 24 at the time and were sailing on the North end of the lake. The wind came up with gusts to 50 knots (As reported by Harries Marina). Being new to sailing I took the sails down, started the outboard (a Honda 9.9hp). But with the wave action the motor was out of the water more than it was in. So we raised a reefed main and sailed back toward the marina on a beam reach, but the marina was direct to windward and with little skill I didn't think I could bring the boat in. So we sailed up and down the lake for about seven hours till the wind dropped and I could motor into our rented slip. One of you folks recommend a sailing school, and I would second that advice. My wife and I sailed on different Rainbow 24's and really enjoyed the experience - learned a lot in three days. If school is not an option, then I would volunteer to crew for some experienced sailer/racer and ask all the questions I could think of every time that person did something, that as a novice I didn't understand. Sailing is great! fred

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Re: M_Boats: M 7'11"
by Randy Watkins 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

hello Bill, Your boat sounds like a cousin to mine. Mine originally came from Classic Marine of San Diego. They are no longer in business. I found out that mine floats a couple of months ago. I turtled her while sailing. Take care Randy W. M15#194 >>> Wcpritchett(a)aol.com 04/18/02 08:46PM >>> Randy, I have an M-10 and the hull looks identical to yours. The interior is different...side seats go forward to a moulded center seat made just like the sides. The seats are sealed and the boat floats if flooded. The breasthook and side rub rails look the same. The transom has wood across side to side which makes way for a small wood motor mount. Mast is set in a wood cross brace about 2' aft of bow. All the wood is teak. I suppose they made several different interiors...got this one sometime around 1975. Bill P. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Lake Lanier, GA Info
by Harvey Wilson 18 Apr '02

18 Apr '02

Hi Steve... I've used Lanier Sailing Acadamy's boat rental....they have some decent boats. In fact, I learned to sail there. I don't know what you'd like to rent, but the Capri 22 was one of my favorites. I'd call and reserve a fin keel if possible. They also have smaller and larger boats, like Catalina and Hunter 22's, an Ericsson 25+, Impulse 26 (awesome boat if the still have it!) The boats are reasonably well maintained, and they're good folks to deal with if there's a legitimate problem. I had one with a Pearson 26 several years ago, and they only charges for an hour, even tho I was out nearly 2 hrs. There may be other boat rental places on Lanier, but it's the only sailboat rental that I've had dealings with. Regards, Harvey/Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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Re: M_Boats: New Email address
by Mark Pavuk 18 Apr '02

18 Apr '02

Yes, Steve, the centerboard seems to be doing fine with a bolt, washers, and locking nut. We even changed the pennant, which actually was a pain in the neck - the line I bought fit through the holes down to the centerboard but when we made a knot to attach it to the centerboard, the knot was too wide and the board wouldn't retract. Danny did everything he could to flatten it out but we ended up buying a smaller diameter line and then everything worked out fine (3/8" didn't fit, 1/4" did). I'm looking forward to your report on your renovations - hope everything goes smoothly. Cherri ---------- From: "Steve McClellan \(at Home\)" <s.mcclellan(a)attbi.com> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: New Email address Date: Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 3:25 PM AT&T Broadband screwed up my account AGAIN and now I have a NEW email account (with a new address) -- I doubt if any of you had my direct address in your address books or anything, but in case anyone did, my new address is s.mcclellan(a)attbi.com <mailto:s.mcclellan@attbi.com> So for about 4 days, I have not been able to get my daily (sometimes hourly) fix of Montgomery Sailboat Owners' news -- and whatever went through the list during that time has been lost to me. What did I miss? Anything interesting? (I know I could look in the archives -- I will get details from there if I need to). Cheri, did you get your centerboard pivot problem resolved ok? I'm nearing completion of my centerboard/trunk/keel stub renovation -- I'll let you all know how it went when it's finished. -- Steve McClellan M15 #152 Chicago Area

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Re: M_Boats: M 7'11"
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 18 Apr '02

18 Apr '02

Randy, I have an M-10 and the hull looks identical to yours. The interior is different...side seats go forward to a moulded center seat made just like the sides. The seats are sealed and the boat floats if flooded. The breasthook and side rub rails look the same. The transom has wood across side to side which makes way for a small wood motor mount. Mast is set in a wood cross brace about 2' aft of bow. All the wood is teak. I suppose they made several different interiors...got this one sometime around 1975. Bill P.

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Re: M_Boats: Maiden Voyage Adventures
by Rotortom2＠aol.com 18 Apr '02

18 Apr '02

Cherri, It seems as if all of us have had a "learning experience" at one time or another. A couple of years ago my wife and I were sailing on Elephant Butte reservoir in New Mexico, and the marina manager told us prior to leaving the slip to watch the erratic winds in the afternoon. Being a New Mexico naitive, I let his advice slip out of my mind, and we had a really nice sail for a couple of hours. The wife took a nap on the V-berth, and woke up when the boat started heeling to the point she was uncomfortable, so into the cockpit she came. I was enjoying the "rails in the water" attitude (not a good point of sail I admit, but I was new at the sailing game then) , and she reminded me of the advice we had received at the marina, but did I listen? No. We should have seen the 30-40 mph gusts coming by observing the lake surface, but the macho thing had not been scared out of me yet. It took water coming over the starboard coaming to bring me to my senses, and suddenly decided it was time to crank up the 4hp Johnson and motor back to the marina. I took the sails down (Dana, the wife, up on the bow in 3 foot chop, pissed off and scared, securing the jib), while I completely removed the main sail and threw it into the cabin. I cranked up the O/B, and we were passing through a narrow area between Elephant Butte and the eastern lee shore of the lake which was about 200 yards away when the motor failed! It didn't take long for me to realize that the Main should not be in the cabin. I somehow got the Main re-attached and managed to sail into the marina. We went to the camper, got a 12-pack, and sat in the boat for an hour or so analyzing the mistakes we made. 1. Listen to local advice. 2.Do not become complacent as to your sailing abilities. 3. Watch the surface of the water for advance warning of wind shifts, etc. 4. Do not assume your motor will get you back. You are on a sailboat, make sure that it is ready to sail. (We bought a new Honda 5hp 4-stroke 2 days later. The marina manager graciously lent us his motor for a few days until the new Honda arrived.) 5. We had a new boom made for the boat when we bought it, but had never practiced reefing, which would have enabled us to sail home without the motor. 6. KEEP ON SAILING! These are the things we learn by trial and error. There are things we can learn from books and other people's experience, but until they happen to us, they are abstract. Once they happen to us, they are real, and we learn from these experiences. Tom M-17 #330 "Wild Hare"

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