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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 171, Issue 8
by Marty Loken 10 May '17

10 May '17

Steve - As Dave mentioned, the Pocket Yacht Palooza will be Saturday, July 22, followed by the three-day Palooza Crooza foe small boats (July 23-25). For details, and to see lots of photos from past Paloozas, check the Port Townsend Pocket Yachters website, www.pocketyachters.com We hope to see several Montys at this year's show and cruise! - Marty On May 10, 2017 11:00 AM, <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Pocket Yacht Palooza (Steve Trapp) > 2. Re: Pocket Yacht Palooza (Dave Scobie) > 3. Re: Pocket Yacht Palooza (Steve Trapp) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 19:42:24 -0700 > From: "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp(a)Q.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Pocket Yacht Palooza > Message-ID: <0BDCA984A80F4941839D82CBCF6D4A2A@HPPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > When is Pocket Yacht Palooza in Port Townsend? > Thought there would be something about it in the recent issue of SCA, > but no luck. But the magazine did have some good articles about M-boats. > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Scobie > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:34 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Intentional Capsize for M15 > > Jerry says you can get the M15 mast to the water quickly by you being in > the water and reaching up to the bow pulpit. this will roll the boat right > onto her beam end. you let go of the pulpit the boat will snap right back > up. > > i've never seen an M15 stay over like the SCAMP does. i've read and talked > with a few folks that went through a knockdown where the boat comes right > back up once the main sheet is released. > > last year an M15 did go over and turtle. boat in heavy wind, on a deep > reach (if i remember correctly), full main and partially rolled up furling > jib, as the boat went over the main wasn't released. > > :: Dave Scobie > :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com > :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html > :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html > :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Blair Ashworth <blairashworth(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi M sailors, > > I've been watching a few videos about the SCAMP, which is a small wooden > > boat designed by John Welsford. Seems to be a very stable boat and they > > did > > an interesting Intentional Capsize with the boat to judge stability, > > safety, and self-rescue. > > > > I'm sure many of you may have seen the short videos - if not, here are a > > couple links for reference. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du9lvJNVqnk > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZNWAkdkXM > > > > My question as an M15 owner is if this type of test or intentional > capsize > > and recovery has been done on an M15 or M17 or similar boats? I would > > suspect it would be much harder to intentionally capsize an M17, but an > > M15 > > seems like this test could be done. > > > > I come from a dinghy sailing background where capsizes are part of the > > experience and sure adds to your confidence when you know what will > happen > > in a capsize and that you can recover as needed. So that is what got me > > thinking along these lines. I know I've read that capsizes and knockdowns > > are very rare for M15s but thought this may be a good summer time type of > > test/experiment. > > > > If not done intentionally, any stories of capsizes and recovery out > there? > > I read the one on msog.org, but hadn't heard of any others. That link > for > > reference is: http://msog.org/how-to/how-to_flotjet.cfm#knockdown > > > > Thanks for any insights. > > Blair > > M15 #126 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 21:01:44 -0600 > From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Pocket Yacht Palooza > Message-ID: > <CAGjBOA7EVd3k0qnpTi1BY7-xfePV=5+WTahwmRhbonhXZ22nJQ@ > mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Steve: > > Pocket Yacht Palooza is 22 July '17. > > http://www.pocketyachters.com/Port_Townsend_Pocket_Yachters/ > Pocket_Yacht_Palooza.html > > > hope to see ya' there. i plan to arrive in PT no later than the 20th ... > maybe a few days prior to that if folks want to see a S15 in the water (as > i have to leave for Salt Lake City early on the 23rd for another event). > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com > :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html > :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html > :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > > > When is Pocket Yacht Palooza in Port Townsend? > > Thought there would be something about it in the recent issue of SCA, > > but no luck. But the magazine did have some good articles about M-boats. > > Steve > > M-15 # 335 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 20:17:25 -0700 > From: "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp(a)Q.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Pocket Yacht Palooza > Message-ID: <9E0344BE534B482488690A30278C05A1@HPPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > Thanx, > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Scobie > Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 8:01 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Pocket Yacht Palooza > > Steve: > > Pocket Yacht Palooza is 22 July '17. > > http://www.pocketyachters.com/Port_Townsend_Pocket_Yachters/ > Pocket_Yacht_Palooza.html > > > hope to see ya' there. i plan to arrive in PT no later than the 20th ... > maybe a few days prior to that if folks want to see a S15 in the water (as > i have to leave for Salt Lake City early on the 23rd for another event). > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com > :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html > :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html > :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > > > When is Pocket Yacht Palooza in Port Townsend? > > Thought there would be something about it in the recent issue of SCA, > > but no luck. But the magazine did have some good articles about M-boats. > > Steve > > M-15 # 335 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 171, Issue 8 > ************************************************ >

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Intentional Capsize for M15
by Blair Ashworth 09 May '17

09 May '17

Hi M sailors, I've been watching a few videos about the SCAMP, which is a small wooden boat designed by John Welsford. Seems to be a very stable boat and they did an interesting Intentional Capsize with the boat to judge stability, safety, and self-rescue. I'm sure many of you may have seen the short videos - if not, here are a couple links for reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du9lvJNVqnk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZNWAkdkXM My question as an M15 owner is if this type of test or intentional capsize and recovery has been done on an M15 or M17 or similar boats? I would suspect it would be much harder to intentionally capsize an M17, but an M15 seems like this test could be done. I come from a dinghy sailing background where capsizes are part of the experience and sure adds to your confidence when you know what will happen in a capsize and that you can recover as needed. So that is what got me thinking along these lines. I know I've read that capsizes and knockdowns are very rare for M15s but thought this may be a good summer time type of test/experiment. If not done intentionally, any stories of capsizes and recovery out there? I read the one on msog.org, but hadn't heard of any others. That link for reference is: http://msog.org/how-to/how-to_flotjet.cfm#knockdown Thanks for any insights. Blair M15 #126

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Interesting M17 for sail in Maine
by Stanley Wheatley 09 May '17

09 May '17

No affiliation but thought some might find this interesting (a) because Montys are very rare here in New England, and (b) it has been converted to a gunter rig. https://maine.craigslist.org/boa/6101503481.html

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 171, Issue 6
by AM Middleriverstudio 08 May '17

08 May '17

I so want that m12... ...anybody want to tow the little Monty back to VA for me? <quietly sobbing> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Montgomery 15 for Sale (brad kurlancheek) > 2. M-12 For Sale Craigslist Tucson (GILASAILR(a)aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 15:19:01 -0400 > From: brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 for Sale > Message-ID: > <CALpQOtAaRvn6Zt7H6qExCtD7dhhYvORVnR4gVSUP=gffkawUFQ@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Every time an M15 goes up for sale..., > an angel sheds a tear. > > On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > > montgomery_boats > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Montgomery 15 for sale (Douglas Kelch) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 18:40:33 -0700 > > From: Douglas Kelch <doug1kelch(a)gmail.com> > > To: Montgomery <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 for sale > > Message-ID: > > <CAFLA6DZsSZK4yppRzn1Sw9YrftBqr9D7j-uPUhAGeucZZruf5A@mail. > > gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > This was Dan Phy's "Six" > > > > A friend of mine bought it and then discovered he had some serious health > > problems. He asked me to sell it for him. A good deal can be made here. > > > > https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/boa/6102553864.html > > > > Thanks > > > > Doug Kelch > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > montgomery_boats mailing list > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 171, Issue 5 > > ************************************************ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 19:40:24 -0400 > From: GILASAILR(a)aol.com > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: M-12 For Sale Craigslist Tucson > Message-ID: <159363.2ab4e503.46410a67(a)aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > https://tucson.craigslist.org/boa/6114267040.html > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 171, Issue 6 > ************************************************ > -- *Antonio Martinez* *Middle River Studio*

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M-12 For Sale Craigslist Tucson
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 07 May '17

07 May '17

https://tucson.craigslist.org/boa/6114267040.html

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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 for Sale
by brad kurlancheek 07 May '17

07 May '17

Every time an M15 goes up for sale..., an angel sheds a tear. On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Montgomery 15 for sale (Douglas Kelch) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 18:40:33 -0700 > From: Douglas Kelch <doug1kelch(a)gmail.com> > To: Montgomery <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 for sale > Message-ID: > <CAFLA6DZsSZK4yppRzn1Sw9YrftBqr9D7j-uPUhAGeucZZruf5A@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > This was Dan Phy's "Six" > > A friend of mine bought it and then discovered he had some serious health > problems. He asked me to sell it for him. A good deal can be made here. > > https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/boa/6102553864.html > > Thanks > > Doug Kelch > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 171, Issue 5 > ************************************************ >

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Montgomery 15 for sale
by Douglas Kelch 06 May '17

06 May '17

This was Dan Phy's "Six" A friend of mine bought it and then discovered he had some serious health problems. He asked me to sell it for him. A good deal can be made here. https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/boa/6102553864.html Thanks Doug Kelch

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Re: M_Boats: Monty 15 in Chesapeake
by brad kurlancheek 03 May '17

03 May '17

Take along William Shellenberger's "Cruising the Chesapeake" - a suberb aid to finding good anchorages. Available on Kindle and hardcopy. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Honda 2.3 hp outboard owners - 2015 model any different than > 2016 or 2017? (John Schinnerer) > 2. Monty 15 in Chesapeake (sheppardtb(a)yahoo.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 20:15:31 -0700 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Honda 2.3 hp outboard owners - 2015 model any > different than 2016 or 2017? > Message-ID: <6f3ca3b5-a94b-7946-430e-e0f96363e9bd(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > For those of you that have or had a Honda 2.3 hp in recent years - does > anyone know if there are any significant differences between a 2015 year > model and the current year model? > > I can get a brand new 2015 year model (NOS) for about $250 less than a > 2017...just wondering if any improvements last year or two that would be > worth the difference. > > thanks, > John S. > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 00:08:36 -0400 > From: sheppardtb(a)yahoo.com > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: Monty 15 in Chesapeake > Message-ID: <8F9820E7-C769-41B0-9DEA-BBFAEF58C8D8(a)yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Thanks to all for the help: Steve,Douglas, Michael,Skip. > I'm still learning and of late, sail Great Egg Harbor Bay in NJ. > On Middle Eastern Shore of Maryland, hope to overnight in coves as well as > use marine facilities > This will be first time sailing there so I have lots of research ahead. > Again, thanks for all the in-put. All advice is certainly needed. > Tom Sheppard > Sent from my iPad > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 171, Issue 3 > ************************************************ >

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Monty 15 in Chesapeake
by sheppardtb＠yahoo.com 02 May '17

02 May '17

Thanks to all for the help: Steve,Douglas, Michael,Skip. I'm still learning and of late, sail Great Egg Harbor Bay in NJ. On Middle Eastern Shore of Maryland, hope to overnight in coves as well as use marine facilities This will be first time sailing there so I have lots of research ahead. Again, thanks for all the in-put. All advice is certainly needed. Tom Sheppard Sent from my iPad

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Honda 2.3 hp outboard owners - 2015 model any different than 2016 or 2017?
by John Schinnerer 02 May '17

02 May '17

For those of you that have or had a Honda 2.3 hp in recent years - does anyone know if there are any significant differences between a 2015 year model and the current year model? I can get a brand new 2015 year model (NOS) for about $250 less than a 2017...just wondering if any improvements last year or two that would be worth the difference. thanks, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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