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Fwd: [AYC] DaySailer wanted
by eisenee＠aol.com 10 Aug '15

10 Aug '15

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Sunday, August 9, 2015, rlaffey729(a)gmail.com [arlingtonyachtclub] <arlingtonyachtclub-noreply(a)yahoogroups.com> wrote: We received this note from our club website and I wanted to pass it along: From: Jonathan Clarke <jeclarke75(a)gmail.com> Subject: Looking for an O'Day Daysailer I Message Body: I'm a member of Corinthian Sailing Club on White Rock Lake and I'm looking to sell or trade my Montgomery 17 for an O'Day Daysailer I. I wonder if you have a classified forum or way to contact your membership to see if anyone is selling a DS? Thanks! - - This e-mail was sent from a contact form on Arlington Yacht Club (http://arlingtonyachtclub.org) __._,_.___ Posted by: rlaffey729(a)gmail.com Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) Come Sail with Us www.arlingtonyachtclub.org VISIT YOUR GROUP • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___

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Re: M_Boats: M15 standing rigging
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 06 Aug '15

06 Aug '15

'Economy of Scale' - more time on the water in quality equipment = more joy! Take Care, Have Fun, Go Sailing! GO In a message dated 8/5/2015 12:42:47 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, casioqv(a)usermail.com writes: Good point, I think that's a major advantage of a boat as small and simple as the M15. On a larger boat the same amount of time and money would be spread much thinner, and I couldn't do any work as well. Tyler ----- Original Message ----- From: "GILASAILR--- via montgomery_boats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:34:47 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 standing rigging Tyler, IF you 'do it right' you can concentrate on enjoying your sailing knowing the boat is put together properly and not worry about equipment when you do deal with the rare 50 knot breeze you may encounter - not worrying about the equipment and attending to the 'task at hand' is worth ALOT when you need to deal with the pressure of the moment. Hey - there is only a few pieces to maintain/upgrade (benefit of small boats) - may as well go top drawer! Take Care. Have Fun, Go Sailing (too hot here at 112 F.) GO

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Re: M_Boats: M15 standing rigging
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 05 Aug '15

05 Aug '15

Tyler, IF you 'do it right' you can concentrate on enjoying your sailing knowing the boat is put together properly and not worry about equipment when you do deal with the rare 50 knot breeze you may encounter - not worrying about the equipment and attending to the 'task at hand' is worth ALOT when you need to deal with the pressure of the moment. Hey - there is only a few pieces to maintain/upgrade (benefit of small boats) - may as well go top drawer! Take Care. Have Fun, Go Sailing (too hot here at 112 F.) GO 'If you don't turn around and look at her admiringly as you walk away at the dock - You got the WRONG BOAT !' In a message dated 8/4/2015 1:13:03 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, scoobscobie(a)gmail.com writes: Tyler: M15s are tough boats .. but not built like 'Acrohc'. i'm currently re-reading Serge's book. -- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 AIR BORN - www.sagemarine.com On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:43 PM, <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: > Thanks Dave, I just wanted to make sure that was normal. I have a brand > new 316 stainless bolt and nylock nut, plus stainless compatible loctite. > > I should stop imagining Serge Testa luffing up in 70 knot winds every time > I replace a nut on my M15 that I mostly sail in tiny lakes with no wind ;) > > Tyler > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Dave Scobie" <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > *Sent: *Tuesday, August 4, 2015 12:29:55 PM > > > Tyler: > > Jerry rigged all his M15s with the 1/4" bolt. i've never worried that the > nylock will come loose ... though inspection before raising mast is best > practice. > > > -- > :: Dave Scobie > :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com >

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converting headsails for use on a furler
by Dave Scobie 04 Aug '15

04 Aug '15

some discussion these past few months on headsails and furlers. some thoughtful words from Brian Hancock in the current (Aug 2015) issue of Sail Magazine - Q: ... can a convert the headsail to a reefing headsail? A: the short answer is yes. however, you'll need to really give this some thought, because it's not a simple process and it's going to cost you some money. if it's a new sail in great condition then perhaps it's a good idea, but don't spend the money converting an old sail. first of all, the luff length has to be shortened to allow for the furling drum and swivel. this means that the head patch has to be removed and lowered down the luff and the leech has to be faired in -- a big job. also remember that the sail was designed to be hanked on, which means the luff curve will be different from that of a sail on a furling unit. specifically, there is usually a lot more sag in a headstay with a furling unit, so the modified sail will have to take that into account. lastly if you are planning to use the sail reefed, you need to make sure that the fabric, in general, is up to the task, since the original sail was not designed with that in mind. so, yes, you can convert a hanked-on sail, but the end of the day you will end up with a compromise that may well cost almost as much as a new one. -- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com

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Re: M_Boats: M15 standing rigging
by Dave Scobie 04 Aug '15

04 Aug '15

Tyler: M15s are tough boats .. but not built like 'Acrohc'. i'm currently re-reading Serge's book. -- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 AIR BORN - www.sagemarine.com On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:43 PM, <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: > Thanks Dave, I just wanted to make sure that was normal. I have a brand > new 316 stainless bolt and nylock nut, plus stainless compatible loctite. > > I should stop imagining Serge Testa luffing up in 70 knot winds every time > I replace a nut on my M15 that I mostly sail in tiny lakes with no wind ;) > > Tyler > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Dave Scobie" <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > *Sent: *Tuesday, August 4, 2015 12:29:55 PM > > > Tyler: > > Jerry rigged all his M15s with the 1/4" bolt. i've never worried that the > nylock will come loose ... though inspection before raising mast is best > practice. > > > -- > :: Dave Scobie > :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com >

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North Carolina Cruising-Lower Neuse River
by Michael Murphy 04 Aug '15

04 Aug '15

The small town of Oriental NC bills itself as the *Sailing Capital of North Carolina*. It does have a large number of big boat marinas but also has good facilities for small boat sailors. It provides a 1st class public ramp with 2 floating piers, a kayak launch, and a free downtown dock for overnight visitors (limited space esp. in the summer). You can find gunk-holes to explore and well-sheltered anchorages every 3 to 6 miles on the Neuse River between New Bern and Pamlico Sound. I made 2 trips from Oriental this week. On the first trip I reefed at the ramp. Although the creek where the ramp is located is sheltered you can easily experience twice the wind just a ½ mile offshore on the 3 mile wide Neuse River. After sailing under the high-rise bridge I was treated to low winds, about 8-9 knots, so out went the reef. An hour later I looked over my shoulder and saw a line of white up river. The reef quickly went back in and over the next hour the wind rose to 15 to 16 knots. Sailing at 5 knots and occasionally surfing at 6 knots I ducked into South River instead of my intended beach-combing destination. After an hour or two exploring anchorages in South River the wind died to a comfortable 9-10 knots for a good close-haul trip back to Oriental. The following Friday, I returned to do some beach-combing on a ¾ mile long beach near the mouth of the Neuse. Winds were lighter so I felt comfortable anchoring off the beach. It is a difficult place to anchor since in many areas a thin layer of sand overlays a hard pan of compressed peat. Your anchor appears to set in the sand but once it’s stressed it slides thru the sand across the top of the peat layer. On an earlier trip I had thought that I solved that problem by physically setting the point of my Delta plow anchor into the peat layer. Upon my return I was surprised to see that the plow point broke out with a 8”x 8”chunk of peat impaled by it. To anchor here you have to find the mud bottoms and to take a second anchor close ashore where the sand is thicker.

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Winch re-leveling
by Thomas Buzzi 01 Aug '15

01 Aug '15

Hi Robbin, I have found that a teak disc cut to the desired angle is the best looking and quickest way to improve winch tailing. Cut the diameter of the disc big enough so you can put a nice rounded shoulder on it. Tom B

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