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Drifter Sail
by Henry Rodriguez 19 Aug '15

19 Aug '15

Who uses a drifter with their M17? What are the dimensions? I see in the archives there is a picture of Larry Yakes' Corn Dog that shows a drifter that appears to be tacked to the bow pulpit. How is that working out, Larry? How big is the sail? Do you tack it like a genoa or jibe it like a spinnaker? What type of fitting do you have on the bow pulpit? What other light air options, short of a full blown soinnaker, are there? Thanks! -- Henry https://picasaweb.google.com/heinzir

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North Carolina Cruising New Sails on the Neuse River
by Michael Murphy 18 Aug '15

18 Aug '15

I made 2 trips to break in a new set of sails made locally by Omar Sails. The loft is about a mile from my house so the sailmaker came over to measure the rig. The sails are of a slightly heavier material which should be good for those breezy March winds we get here. The luff uses a low stretch braided line instead of the laid line used in some older sails that I had. Therefore, the luff is slightly longer by a couple of inches than the original mainsail. The leach is the same length but has a larger roach. The loose foot is shaped slightly to hug the boom. Both main and jib have leach tensioning lines, with a 2nd line on the jib at the foot. I requested that the jib luff be slightly shorter to ensure that I could get full tension of the jib. I was always plagued by "scallops" in the jib luff. As the sailing day progressed these would develop (due to stretch I suppose). I tried a low stretch halyard but there was not enough height to the hounds to get and keep good tension on the foresail. The first break-in sail was a 7 mile diagonal reach across the Neuse River to the mouth of Clubfoot Creek. Conditions were not the best for judging sail performance. Winds had died that morning to about 7- 8 knots but the following 1 foot wave-train was a residual of overnight winds across a 75 mile fetch. On a starboard tack the occasional set of 2 foot waves would sneak up on the stern quarter and push the boat off course. On the port tack tack the boat was sailing in the trough which caused the main to swing back and forth when the larger set of waves came by once a minute or so. In Clubfoot Creek the winds were 6-7 knots with mostly flat water for the 3 mile run to the head of the creek. The larger main pushed the boat well in the light airs. The jib was blanketed most of the time so I couldn't get a god fel for its performance.

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Boat insurance?
by Daniel Rich 18 Aug '15

18 Aug '15

Montypals: I do not have boat insurance. In my state the auto insurance covers from the front of the car to the back of the trailer for liability. I don't feel a need to insure the boat itself, since it is worth about $5500 or so including the trailer? So, why have boat insurance? Daniel M15 #208 Kestrel

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M15 portapotty
by Paul McAleavy 18 Aug '15

18 Aug '15

My recently acquired M15 lacks a portable head. Can anyone provide the brand and model number of a unit that fits the space available? If there are several that will fit, do people have an opinion as to the best? I have zero experience with such, as going over the side is sufficient for me, but the Admiral demands seated comfort. I would guess simple is the best but any input would be appreciated. The Admiral has rejected my suggestion of the old cedar bucket. Thanks, Paul M15 #471

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Bottom Paint
by Karen & Smiley 15 Aug '15

15 Aug '15

Bottom paint is a pain in the hull on a Monty because of the hull shape and you won't bottom paint with 2 coats of barrier before painting the bottom. Be prepared to have to re-paint seasonally or every two seasons. This is the reason I sold my Precision 21 and move to a M15 which can live on a trailer. Good luck Rich and I sent you an e-mail on towing. Smiley M15 #616 Karen & Smiley Magoo252(a)comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 2:00 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 150, Issue 12 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. My M15 in a slip? (Daniel Rich) 2. Re: My M15 in a slip? (Conbert Benneck) 3. Re: My M15 in a slip? (Robbin Roddewig) 4. Re: My M15 in a slip? (Dave Scobie) 5. Fwd: SARAH FARRAR liked your comment in "Weekend Getaway: The Best of Nantucket in Just Three Days" (Conbert Benneck) 6. Re: My M15 in a slip? (Daniel Rich) 7. bottom paint redux (Daniel Rich) 8. Re: My M15 in a slip? (Bill Wickett) 9. Re: My M15 in a slip? (Tyler Backman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 21:40:27 -0700 From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: My M15 in a slip? Message-ID: <A4F55DC6-B23C-4BB9-84D1-47B949236385(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Montypals: I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend?s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don?t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way? Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich(a)gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 07:22:44 -0500 From: Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: My M15 in a slip? Message-ID: <55CF2F14.1000903(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed On 8/14/2015 11:40 PM, Daniel Rich wrote: Daniel, Critical question No. 1: - Fresh water or salt water? If it is fresh water, you should be fine for three or four months. You might grow a bit of algae, but when the boat is out of the water, you can remove it easily. If it you are in salt water - and depending on the water temperature - the main problem is barnacle growth; the warmer the water, the faster the growth. That is why you need anti-fouling paint on the bottom for salt water; to stop the barnacle growth, or if you had a wooden boat, toredo worms which make the bottom of the boat look like Swiss cheese. Connie > Montypals: > > I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend?s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don?t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way? > > > Daniel Rich > M15 #208 "Kestrel" > danielgrich(a)gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:59:14 -0400 From: Robbin Roddewig <robbin.roddewig(a)verizon.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: My M15 in a slip? Message-ID: <55CF45B2.30001(a)verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Hi Daniel, probably not. We had a boat in fresh water every summer in the great lakes without fouling paint and we would clean off the hull with TSP every fall when it was hauled. It left a brown stain. I have my M-23 in a slip on the Chesapeake and it would never last 3-4 months that way untreated. Hard growth and soft would find it a great home. And hard growth is nasty to get completely off without damaging the hull finish. Good luck with the Scamp! I like the boat and have followed it through Small Craft Advisor. I like building boats (in classes mind you) and am really happy that this boat has led many to build boats. I think it is a great size for building and a very cool boat once done. I really do feel that in many ways the smaller the better. Robbin M-23 "Pinch me" Deale MD On 8/15/2015 12:40 AM, Daniel Rich wrote: > Montypals: > > I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend?s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don?t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way? > > > Daniel Rich > M15 #208 "Kestrel" > danielgrich(a)gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:47:47 -0600 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: My M15 in a slip? Message-ID: <CAGjBOA7A=Q02EUw5DbHOTARjei1HcOd-3kJfSTo69dmzj4qCiQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 No more than two or three weeks if in salt water. If in freshwater it depends on the local conditions. Have Sage 17s in freshwater around the country that require paint not only because the boat would have feet of growth on the bottom, but because of zebra mussels. Discuss with boat owners and yards at the marina you will be keeping the boat. Local conditions require local behaviour. This includes the type of bottom paint you use as some brands work better than others in different bodies of water and sometimes even in different marinas on the same bodies of water. More discussion and detail here - https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/bottom-paint-blues/ https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/antifouling-bottom-paint-sel ecting-bottom-paint/ https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/16/antifouling-bottom-paint-the -waterline/ :: Dave Scobie On Aug 14, 2015 10:40 PM, "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Montypals: > > I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my > Monty over to a friend?s house for now. That got me to thinking that > maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. > I don?t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would > the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way? > > > Daniel Rich > M15 #208 "Kestrel" > danielgrich(a)gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:17:41 -0500 From: Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Fwd: SARAH FARRAR liked your comment in "Weekend Getaway: The Best of Nantucket in Just Three Days" Message-ID: <55CF5815.60805(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed The Wall Street Journal had an article about Nantucket Island, and what do do there on a long weekend. It started with Hotels charging $345 to $610 per night; what expensive restaurants to visit and what to taste. It certainly bore no resemblence to the Nantucket we visited years ago. 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Please do not reply to this email directly but you may contact moderator(a)wsj.com <mailto:moderator@wsj.com> if you have questions. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:58:31 -0700 From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: My M15 in a slip? Message-ID: <F58238F9-173C-4F0A-A4B9-141DC36D728D(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hmm, sadness. I will be in salt water in Bodega Bay. Water is always about 52 degrees. OK, I will inquire about bottom paint for the boat. Daniel > On Aug 15, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > No more than two or three weeks if in salt water. > > If in freshwater it depends on the local conditions. Have Sage 17s in > freshwater around the country that require paint not only because the boat > would have feet of growth on the bottom, but because of zebra mussels. > > Discuss with boat owners and yards at the marina you will be keeping the > boat. Local conditions require local behaviour. This includes the type of > bottom paint you use as some brands work better than others in different > bodies of water and sometimes even in different marinas on the same bodies > of water. > > More discussion and detail here - > > https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/bottom-paint-blues/ > > https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/antifouling-bottom-paint-sel ecting-bottom-paint/ > > https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/16/antifouling-bottom-paint-the -waterline/ > > :: Dave Scobie > On Aug 14, 2015 10:40 PM, "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Montypals: >> >> I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty >> over to a friend?s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is >> the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don?t have any >> antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 >> months that way? >> >> >> Daniel Rich >> M15 #208 "Kestrel" >> danielgrich(a)gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:06:35 -0700 From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: bottom paint redux Message-ID: <82F84E07-FE44-4731-8200-FF1CBC276E02(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 OK, assuming now I need bottom paint, and I don?t want to do it myself, where in the SF Bay Area would be a good place to do it? I live in Sonoma County, but I could drop the boat off somewhere to do it. Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich(a)gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:05:24 -0400 From: Bill Wickett <billwick(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: My M15 in a slip? Message-ID: <778805FC-33CD-4FE2-AE30-5873F72018EC(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Consider barrier coat under the anti fouling. > On Aug 15, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hmm, sadness. I will be in salt water in Bodega Bay. Water is always about 52 degrees. OK, I will inquire about bottom paint for the boat. > > Daniel > >> On Aug 15, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> No more than two or three weeks if in salt water. >> >> If in freshwater it depends on the local conditions. Have Sage 17s in >> freshwater around the country that require paint not only because the boat >> would have feet of growth on the bottom, but because of zebra mussels. >> >> Discuss with boat owners and yards at the marina you will be keeping the >> boat. Local conditions require local behaviour. This includes the type of >> bottom paint you use as some brands work better than others in different >> bodies of water and sometimes even in different marinas on the same bodies >> of water. >> >> More discussion and detail here - >> >> https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/bottom-paint-blues/ >> >> https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/antifouling-bottom-paint-sel ecting-bottom-paint/ >> >> https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/16/antifouling-bottom-paint-the -waterline/ >> >> :: Dave Scobie >>> On Aug 14, 2015 10:40 PM, "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Montypals: >>> >>> I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty >>> over to a friend?s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is >>> the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don?t have any >>> antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 >>> months that way? >>> >>> >>> Daniel Rich >>> M15 #208 "Kestrel" >>> danielgrich(a)gmail.com > > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:39:52 -0700 From: Tyler Backman <casioqv(a)usermail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: My M15 in a slip? Message-ID: <036144AB-0F47-4477-B7C1-28A06C78BB81(a)usermail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 You could also try a "boat bath" if the marina allows it. This is a tarp that fits under the boat, and is filled with fresh water or a small amount of bleach to keep anything from growing. You can make it from a normal hardware store tarp, if you cut it to shape and add new grommets. If you weigh it down with lead weights, it can stay in place while you are out boating, but you pull it up and tie it tight against the bottom of the boat when you are in the slip. Tyler > On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:40 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Montypals: > > I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend?s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don?t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way? > > > Daniel Rich > M15 #208 "Kestrel" > danielgrich(a)gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 150, Issue 12 *************************************************

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Fwd: SARAH FARRAR liked your comment in "Weekend Getaway: The Best of Nantucket in Just Three Days"
by Conbert Benneck 15 Aug '15

15 Aug '15

The Wall Street Journal had an article about Nantucket Island, and what do do there on a long weekend. It started with Hotels charging $345 to $610 per night; what expensive restaurants to visit and what to taste. It certainly bore no resemblence to the Nantucket we visited years ago. This was my comment to the article; -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: SARAH FARRAR liked your comment in "Weekend Getaway: The Best of Nantucket in Just Three Days" Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:22:31 -0000 From: noreply(a)comments.wsj.com To: chbenneck(a)gmail.com "Weekend Getaway: The Best of Nantucket in Just Three Days" <http://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZtfHoAwEgZg8ZniQXSTq9slGQ7b5T4GO331…> http://www.wsj.com/articles/weekend-getaway-the-best-of-nantucket-in-just-t… <http://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZtfHoAwEgZg8ZniQXSTq9slGQ7b5T4GO331…> Stop receiving notifications about this conversation Unfollow <http://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZtfHoAwEgZg8ZniQXSTq9nxkVTcJnmJNMjN…> SARAH FARRAR liked your comment <http://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZtfHoAwEgZg8ZniQXSTq5lYbS7d9xuTHMWG…> Longing for peace quiet and solitude while sailing, but then being inundated with evermore motorboat drivers who were mostly inconsiderate boors, we finally gave up sailing the New England coastal waters years ago. We bought a 15 foot sailboat on a trailer, and now had access to thin water that no power boater dared to travel; 1) there were no refueling possibilities; 2) the water was too shallow for people who couldn't read and interpret a nautical chart and who traveled too fast to spot the submerged rocks. We had found peace and quiet again, and lots of very enjoyable sailing. We don't miss Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard at all. We've found far better inaccessible places, without $16 bowls of clam chowder, or $950 two hour boat rides,but with good B&Bs and local restaurants that cost a tiny fraction of Nantucket's prices. Vive la difference. Go to comment <http://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZtfHoAwEgZg8ZniQXSTq5lYbS7d9xuTHMWG…> You are receiving this email because you are signed up to be notified about commenting activity at WSJ.com. Click here <http://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZKRziyniTvVu8J6geyy1oYFn-2B-2BRrwRb…> to manage your notification settings. If you would like to unsubscribe <http://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZtfHoAwEgZg8ZniQXSTq9nxkVTcJnmJNMjN…> from this conversation you can always re-subscribe from your notification settings or from the comment stream. Please do not reply to this email directly but you may contact moderator(a)wsj.com <mailto:moderator@wsj.com> if you have questions.

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Race to Alaska 2016
by Dave Scobie 13 Aug '15

13 Aug '15

I received the following in my mid-morning email - "After numerous debriefs with safety personnel, race staff, event sponsors and others, we have decided to move forward with a second Race to Alaska. Besides, there may have been a full-blown revolt if we hadn't run this again," said Jake Beattie, Executive Director of the Northwest Maritime Center, R2AK's host organization. The race will start on June 23 in Port Townsend, WA; all other details regarding the second iteration of the race will be released on September 11 at the Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival. "There will be changes and some fun additions to the 2016 challenge," says Race Boss Daniel Evans, on board for his second year as Race Director. The first-ever R2AK Blazer Party will also be held at the Wooden Boat Festival; this event is free to racers and $25 for all others. Attendees can come rub elbows with R2AK teams, see the second place steak knives, and be the first to hear the details of next year's event. In mock formality, there will be a rack of thrift store R2AK-emblazoned jackets for the racers to wear (racers who completed both stages of the race get one with two arms). For more information about the Race to Alaska, visit www.r2ak.com, and attend the R2AK Blazer Party at the Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival on September 11! Thanks for following the Race to Alaska! The R2AK Command Central Team -- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com

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M15 Stay adjusters for sale - larger clevis pin
by Tyler Backman 12 Aug '15

12 Aug '15

Is anyone interested in a set of three brand new 316 Stainless 1/4" CS Johnson stay adjusters (part 15-205) with clevis pins and rings? I will sell all three for $60 with free shipping, cheaper than you will find anywhere else. These are the best stay adjusters on the market, and are in the larger 1/4" pin size which fits better into the M15 chainplate holes, causing less wear. Most M15s I have seen have a smaller 3/16" pin stay adjuster, which is only rated to 400 pounds and causes a point load that wears against the chainplate. My M15 had this when I got it, and the clevis pins have significant wear and deformation. I purchased these to re-rig my M15, but found out that they have too narrow a channel to work with the Hayn Hi-MOD eyes I am using. They will work with machine swaged rigging, or with a nicopress type eye. I am going to try the Hobie Cat style shroud adjusters which are welded at the bottom and springy, which I think will accommodate the width of the Hi-MOD eyes... however I can't find them in 316 stainless, but only in the lower quality 18-8. Tyler M15 #157 Defiant Davis, CA

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Griselda has arrived at her new home!
by Jeremy Bowman 11 Aug '15

11 Aug '15

I just moved to Ventura County today (from Dallas) and brought my fixed keel M17 hull #14. I'm gonna clean her up and get her into a slip as soon as I can. Questions: any tips on the best way to get 5200 sealant all in between the keel and the hull? Is it just paint that's peeling off the entire overhead in the cabin? Should I just sand and re-stain the handrails or should I try replacing them? If the deck/cockpit leaves white marks on my hands, can I just polish the gel coat it does it need further care? Last (for now), once I get Griselda into a slip, does anyone in Southern California need a trailer designed for a fixed keel trailer sailor? I'd like to keep it but don't have any room.

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Montgomery 15 For Sale in Minneapolis
by Steven Lindeman 10 Aug '15

10 Aug '15

I am putting my 2009 Montgomery 15 up for sale. I have not been able to sail this wonderful boat as I expected and it is time to get it to someone who can enjoy her. I purchased the boat 3 years ago and have sailed it twice. It was barely used by the previous owner so it is in near perfect condition. Trailer is like new, sails are perfect, boat is in excellent condition, Lehr 2.5 outboard has less than 5 hours. Many extras included. Garage kept for her whole life. Photos and other details available on craigslist - https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/boa/5164989641.html Asking $10,500. Located in Minneapolis metro area.

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