May 2011 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: M15 rudder performance
by Steve R. 16 May '11

16 May '11

A clarification to the rudder comments in SCA was posted to the list, as follows: "The SCA article left out a good bit of the context for my remarks, especially my emphatic caveat that my larger mainsail would have added weather helm even with the mast raked forward. " For further comments, see: http://www.mail-archive.com/montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com/msg09877.… steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY --- On Sat, 5/14/11, Daniel Rich wrote: > > In the M15 review years ago in Small > Craft Advisor somebody complained that the M15 rudder would > stall.

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Pamlico Sound Avon NC
by Karen and Smiley 15 May '11

15 May '11

OK so we booked a vacation home right on the sound with a boat dock and a yard for our two dogs. We will be in NC week of Sept 11 to 17 th. Any Montgomery sailboater's live in the vicinity or are interested in sailing down at the Sound. I am pretty sure my dock can accommodate another boat or two, We'd love to sail with Montgomery folks down there. Let me know Another Wrinkle M15 #616. This place harkens back 16 years ago when I went down to Canadian Hole and windsurfed for a week in Avon J Smiley and Karen magoo252(a)comcast.net

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Re: M_Boats: trailering with rudder assembly in place M15
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 15 May '11

15 May '11

Daniel, Then I can stop screeching on the internetz. Good idea. Take Care, Have Fun, Go Sailing GO

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M15 Rudder
by Daniel Rich 15 May '11

15 May '11

OK, I took apart my tiller/rudder assembly and swapped blades. The Ida sailor blade looks to be about 6 inches longer, but a tad narrower. The angle of attack is more round. It weighs 15 lbs. The standard rudder has the elliptical angle of attack with the flat exit as described by Jerry in his article. It weighs about 9 lbs. What a difference. The lift assembly can hold it up without difficulty. The Ida sailor blade would not stay up if the thing is out of the water. Can't wait to try it out. Should make for easier launching and retrieval, since I can put the rudder on while still on the trailer. I expect the performance will be good, with a lighter feel. We'll see. Daniel

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M17 For Sale
by George Johnson 14 May '11

14 May '11

Since 2006 this boat has taken me on some great voyages, camping trips, and brought good friends together for excellent day sailing. It's time to let her go to the next proud owner to enjoy. I'm putting her up for sale and is on the MSOG.org website in the "For Sail" section. I also made a video showing the boat, inside and out, and all the accessories. It can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd5DhXj-qyY If this link doesn't work, go to youtube.com and enter "Montgomery 17 Sailboat Tour" or "Montgomery1177" (my username) in the search box. I hate to let her go but I have had all of the fun and good times I anticipated when I bought her, no regrets AT ALL! What a great boat... George Johnson M17 #600 "Rocinante" San Antonio, TX ldf388(a)my.utsa.edu

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The Science of Whale Flippers
by Steve R. 14 May '11

14 May '11

Here is an article from the Mechanical Engineering magazine that may be of interest. It describes how bumps on whale fins reduce drag. http://tinyurl.com/Whale-Fins If that link doesn't not work, search for "Whales" and "ASME". The bumps are on the "wrong side" of the fin from a conventional wisdom perspective. They allow a higher angle of attack before stalling. Unfortunately this is useful only in limited circumstances. I wonder if there may be a practical application to a rudder or perhaps centerboard. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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Re: M_Boats: Overhead console done
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 14 May '11

14 May '11

In a message dated 5/9/2011 3:20:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, elanders(a)bak.rr.com writes: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.178563832181472.37636.100000835691 253#!/photo.php?fbid=200329953338193&set=a.178563832181472.37636.10000083569 1253&type=1&theater Earl, Nice job. I need to make a removable tray in the same location for my 'tunes blaster machine' to hang from when in 'cruiser mode' -Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto #1 and my Grateful Dead tunes need to be available - Great Job ! I will send photos when /if I make good on the threat. Boat improvement - good work again - enjoy. GO M-17 #316a "Air Powered"

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somebody buy that 2009 M17 that is for sale
by Karen and Smiley 14 May '11

14 May '11

Its killing me to see this deal on the table and not want it J Told Bob Eeg if I had seen this boat before Stan's it would have been mine, don't get me wrong I like what I just bought and plan to go sailing Friday for her shakedown cruise. But here is what is killing me: M 17 $17,320 Trailer $1980 Surge brakes $1200 (Bob said so) Extra sails about $550 Gear about $300 3.5 hp Nissan about $1200 Folks this adds up to $22,550 for what would be a new boat and the used one looks PRISTINE to my eye and $18,500 for a two season old yacht is killing me to see here not sold yet. Tell a friend before my wife divorces me for even thinking about buying this boat and selling the M 15 J Smiley magoo252(a)comcast.net

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San Diego
by Stan Winarski 14 May '11

14 May '11

I plan to fly into San Diego on Sunday, May 15 and drive north to Calimesa on the 18th. If anyone would like a sailing partner any of those days in an M-15, M-17, M-23 or, dare I dream, a Sage 17, please give me a call: 757-672-2329. Stan Winarski M-15 1981 #177 Carol II

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Overhead console done
by Earl Landers 13 May '11

13 May '11

Monte people, Greetings, Finished he overhead console this past weekend, here is a link to a head-on picture; head-on view <http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.178563832181472.37636.100000835691 253#!/photo.php?fbid=200329953338193&set=a.178563832181472.37636.10000083569 1253&type=1&theater> And a slightly off-angle view; Off angle view <http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.178563832181472.37636.100000835691 253#!/photo.php?fbid=200330000004855&set=a.178563832181472.37636.10000083569 1253&type=1&theater> Advantages are, line of sight to depth finder and no new holes in bulkheads J Earl Landers, M17 373

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