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Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
by Larry E Yake 10 Mar '11

10 Mar '11

Yes, the track needs to be replaced with a Harken track. You would mount turning blocks for a 2:1 installation, but not on the tails coming out of the car cleats. Those tails need to be free so you can lift them vertically to pop them out of the cleats. On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:03:14 -0500 Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> writes: > Thanks, Larry, that's a solution worth looking into. The picture > helps a > lot. Did you ever think of mounting turning blocks on the vertical > face of > the cockpit at the ends of the track? I assume that the track also > needs to > be replaced? > > Rick > M-17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Larry E Yake <leyake(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > It is very easy to move to windward, even when the sail is fully > loaded > > and the mainsheet is tight. You can also rig the car 2:1 if you > feel the > > need. It's designed for it. I've never needed it. > > > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:22:49 -0500 "John Davies" > <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > > writes: > > > Larry, > > > > > > How easy is it to pull the car all the way to the windward end > of > > > the track when the upward angle of the line looks to be pretty > big? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Rick > > > M17 #633 > > > Lynne l > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre > > > On Mar 9, 2011 8:55 PM, Larry E Yake <leyake(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >Larry: > > > > > > >Can u send a photo of that sheeting car installation? Sees > a > > > good idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > >~~~_/)~~~ Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a picture of it here, down at the bottom of the page. > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > http://www.msogphotosite.com/M17Tul1.html > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the > Internet! > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the > Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > n.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > >

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Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
by Larry E Yake 10 Mar '11

10 Mar '11

It is very easy to move to windward, even when the sail is fully loaded and the mainsheet is tight. You can also rig the car 2:1 if you feel the need. It's designed for it. I've never needed it. On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:22:49 -0500 "John Davies" <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> writes: > Larry, > > How easy is it to pull the car all the way to the windward end of > the track when the upward angle of the line looks to be pretty big? > > Thanks, > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne l > > > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre > On Mar 9, 2011 8:55 PM, Larry E Yake <leyake(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > >Larry: > > >Can u send a photo of that sheeting car installation? Sees a > good idea. > > > > >~~~_/)~~~ Gary > > > > > > There's a picture of it here, down at the bottom of the page. > > Larry > > http://www.msogphotosite.com/M17Tul1.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > >

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 97, Issue 7
by CBDubbin＠aol.com 10 Mar '11

10 Mar '11

'85 M15 going up for sale in Florida Any one interested may email me at _cbdubbin(a)aol.com_ (mailto:cbdubbin@aol.com) . I have not advertised yet. Wanted to give Monty forum members the first shot at this excellent craft. My wife wants to move up to a larger boat. Cliff

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Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
by Larry E Yake 10 Mar '11

10 Mar '11

>Larry: >Can u send a photo of that sheeting car installation? Sees a good idea. >~~~_/)~~~ Gary There's a picture of it here, down at the bottom of the page. Larry http://www.msogphotosite.com/M17Tul1.html

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Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

This type of a traveler can be built using line and blocks - no track or car is needed - a loop in the center of a continuous loop and two cam or clam cleats (Hint - alum. ones Stanley) - attach the mainsheet block to the loop and Viola' (that there is pernunced Vee - O - Lah) , you have a mainsheet traveler that is cheap, effective and has minimal holes in the cockpit sole - actually NO holes in the sole if you mount turning blocks at seat tank vertical surfaces as they should be, for maximum travel, as there is VERY little room on the sole for an effective span for the traveler. Great little splicing project using some dyneema for the loop - EASY to splice. Less holes in the boat is a major benefit and full traveler advantages to boot for them that has to have'em. I will try and draw it out, spec the hardware, and post it 'somewhere' in the next few days if you are interested. (A bit busy right now, My wife's B-Day is tomorrow!) Take Care, Have Fun, Go Sailing and practice those C/MOB drills ! Gary H. Oberbeck M-17 #316 "Air Powered" 'that ain't bad gelcoat........it's patina!'

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Re: M_Boats: why am I not able to post?
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

Hi Bert, I received this post. sal 1086 M15 "Justus" In a message dated 3/9/2011 9:38:29 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, flickasf(a)aol.com writes: I used to be able to post, but no more. What do I do in order to do so? Bert Felton Montgomery 15, #365, Zephyr _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
by Larry E Yake 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

On my 1976 model M17, CornDog, I moved the track and traveler back from the companionway about 18 inches. Just enough that my passengers legs would be in front of it. It was a bother to have to reach through their legs to adjust it. That is also still far enough forward that I have no problem crossing over in front of the tiller on tacks. I installed a Harken Small Boat Windward Sheeting Car and love it! Very easy to adjust.. can be done after you finish your tack and have sheeted in the jib. Then you can move to the high side before pulling the track to windward. It also works great for spilling wind in a gust. Just pop the line out of the built in cleat and it drops down to the low side. Dumps the wind without ruining your sail shape like playing your mainsheet does. There's a picture of my set-up on the MSOG photo-site. Just click on the M17's and CornDog. Larry

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Replacing Main sheet system
by Daniel Rich 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

Montypals: Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it! Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? Thoughts here? Daniel

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New Member of the "Montgomery_Boats" Mailing List
by Leo McMahon 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

Hello Everyone, My name is Leo McMahon, and I am currently "between" boats (as they say). My last boat was a Catalina 27, which we sailed on San Francisco bay for a couple of years. The Catalina was our third boat. Many years ago, we learned to sail on various lakes in Pennsylvania with an Oday daysailer and later graduated to a Hunter 23, which we sailed mostly on Chesapeake bay (Bohemia River) before moving to California. We currently live in Hollister, which is about 100 miles south of San Francisco and a bit too far to travel for sailing every weekend. So we decided to sell our Catalina in the hope of finding a new or possibly used Montgomery 17 (or 15) that we could trailer to sail Monterey bay and lakes not too far from Hollister. My wife and I mostly daysail and cruise weekends. We usually sail with my 70 pound German Shepherd, so cockpit space is a serious consideration along with overnight accomodations. From what we currently know about the Montgomery 17, it seems to meet all our needs very nicely I look forward to reading all the comments about the 17 (and the 15) in the archives, as well as any comment that you may have for a "newbie" to the Montgomery scene. Talk to you soon. Leo

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Monty 17
by Leo Mcmahon 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

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