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Re: M_Boats: soon to be proud owner of M 15 #616
by Martha Ekwurtzel 17 Mar '11

17 Mar '11

Congratulations ! Karen and Smiley <magoo252(a)comcast.net> wrote: >I am very happy to be joining your ranks soon. I found a great seller and >made the deal and look forward to sailing this nice boat. I must admit never >saw one in person, either a 15 or 17 but loved seeing the pic's and hearing >your stories. Thanks for welcoming me to your community. > > > >Prindle 16 beach cat > >Too many windsurfers to count > >Laser 28 > >Precision 21 > >And now Montgomery 15 > > > >New sails are on my short list, any suggestions as I spoke to Judy B and she >seems to understand small boats for sure, love dealing with folks familiar >with what size boats we play with J > > > >Smiley > >magoo252(a)comcast.net > > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: soon to be proud owner of M 15 #616
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 17 Mar '11

17 Mar '11

Congratulations Smiley. Jerry Montgomery's 15 foot design is exceptional. I'm sure you will enjoy sailing her and experiencing the "Spirit" of the design. sal 1986 M15 #361 "Justus" In a message dated 3/16/2011 5:53:15 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, magoo252(a)comcast.net writes: I am very happy to be joining your ranks soon. I found a great seller and made the deal and look forward to sailing this nice boat. I must admit never saw one in person, either a 15 or 17 but loved seeing the pic's and hearing your stories. Thanks for welcoming me to your community. Prindle 16 beach cat Too many windsurfers to count Laser 28 Precision 21 And now Montgomery 15 New sails are on my short list, any suggestions as I spoke to Judy B and she seems to understand small boats for sure, love dealing with folks familiar with what size boats we play with J Smiley magoo252(a)comcast.net _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: Trailer Day
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 16 Mar '11

16 Mar '11

Mark, Sorry about all the tribulations on your trailer work - I find my outboard to be the most time consuming personally. I usually know what it is in need of repair - it just takes 2.3 hours to clean the carb and 'build" the motor cover back onto the powerhead. (something like 24 fasteners!) Trailers can be a pain - BUT at least you can go fishing right out the back door when you aren't sailing ! :>) Hope your epoxy kicks for your track - Take Care, Have Fun, You will be sailing soon. GO M-17 #316 "Air Powered"

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Trailer Day
by Mark House 16 Mar '11

16 Mar '11

It's been so quiet on the chat group that I thought I'd share my day with y'all. I decided to fix the trailer lights on my 1977 M-17. They are almost new, LED's that I thought would never need maintenance. I had trouble with the ground at each light last year, but the ground wires and attaching bolts looked new. So I checked out the car circuits, then the ground, then the trailer to car ground. All good, but still no light. Then I noticed the former owner had several crimped connections in the wriing. One was loose, so I figured it was the problem. I soldered the connections together on one side, but still no light. So I took the light fixture off the other side and tested it on the boat battery in my garage. Worked great! So I rigged a new ground at that light and tested. Yes, it was the same old ground problem. Even though the bolt looked good, It wasn't connecting with the trailer. So I drilled and tapped new grounds. Then on the side I started on, I realized that the license plate was rubbing on the wiring and could not be adjusted where it wouldn't. So I built a new light bracket positioned far enough away from the license that it wouldn't be a problem. Then I had to paint the new steel parts and install. Then prime and paint again. I broke a drill bit. I cut my thumb with a knife and bled all over my wiring. I dripped Rust-Oleum on my driveway. Tomorrow I need to go get some fender washers to remount the license plate. I'm trying to get epoxy filler to set on the deck for my new jib track. But it gets into the 20's at night. So I set up a heater under the tarp over the boat. If it doesn't burn down, I should be able to set the track by the end of the week. Now I'm enjoying a nice glass of red wine. After many decades of boating, most of my worst days still involve a boat trailer. Fair Winds, Mark House Durango, CO

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Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
by Larry E Yake 11 Mar '11

11 Mar '11

The adapter kit converts an existing Harken car into a windward sheeting car. It's not a complete unit by itself. On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:31:04 -0500 "John Davies" <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> writes: > Larry, > > Harken lists a small boat windward sheeting traveler and an adapter, > both of which look pretty much the same.  Do you need both, and > if not, what's the difference? > > Thanks, > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre > On Mar 10, 2011 10:13 AM, Larry E Yake <leyake(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > I should specify, you don't need to release the off side cleat > manually > > when drawing the car to windward. It does that automatically. Only > when > > you want to lower that track from the high side do you need to > release it > > manually. > > > > On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:03:14 -0500 Rick Davies > <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > > writes: > > > Thanks, Larry, that's a solution worth looking into. The > picture > > > helps a > > > lot. Did you ever think of mounting turning blocks on the > vertical > > > face of > > > the cockpit at the ends of the track? I assume that the track > also > > > needs to > > > be replaced? > > > > > > Rick > > > M-17 #633 > > > Lynne L > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Larry E Yake > <leyake(a)juno.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > It is very easy to move to windward, even when the sail is > fully > > > loaded > > > > and the mainsheet is tight. You can also rig the car 2:1 > if you > > > feel the > > > > need. It's designed for it. I've never needed it. > > > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:22:49 -0500 "John Davies" > > > <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > > > > writes: > > > > > Larry, > > > > > > > > > > How easy is it to pull the car all the way to the > windward end > > > of > > > > > the track when the upward angle of the line looks to > be pretty > > > big? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > M17 #633 > > > > > Lynne l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre > > > > > On Mar 9, 2011 8:55 PM, Larry E Yake > &lt;leyake(a)juno.com&gt; > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;Larry: > > > > > > > > > > &gt;Can u send a photo of that sheeting car > installation? Sees > > > a > > > > > good idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;~~~_/)~~~ Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a picture of it here, down at the bottom of > the page. > > > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > http://www.msogphotosite.com/M17Tul1.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on > the > > > Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on > the > > > Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > n.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the > Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > >

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Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
by Larry E Yake 11 Mar '11

11 Mar '11

Developed? No, I just selected the parts and decided where to install it. Harken has several systems available. You should shop around if you're interesting in a windward sheeting car. I got mine on sale several years ago and I've heard you can beat the suggested retail price if you search enough. On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:01:16 EST SALGLESSER(a)aol.com writes: > Hi Larry, > > Thanx much for the info and link. You've done some very nice stuff > on > corn dog. An inspiration as well as a good information source. > > That's a very nice, simple track system. Is that something you > developed? > > sal > > 1986 M15 > #361 > "Justus" > > > > In a message dated 3/10/2011 8:13:35 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > leyake(a)juno.com writes: > > I should specify, you don't need to release the off side cleat > manually > when drawing the car to windward. It does that automatically. Only > when > you want to lower that track from the high side do you need to > release it > manually. > > On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:03:14 -0500 Rick Davies > <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > writes: > > Thanks, Larry, that's a solution worth looking into. The picture > > > helps a > > lot. Did you ever think of mounting turning blocks on the > vertical > > face of > > the cockpit at the ends of the track? I assume that the track > also > > needs to > > be replaced? > > > > Rick > > M-17 #633 > > Lynne L > > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Larry E Yake <leyake(a)juno.com> > > wrote: > > > > > It is very easy to move to windward, even when the sail is fully > > > loaded > > > and the mainsheet is tight. You can also rig the car 2:1 if you > > > feel the > > > need. It's designed for it. I've never needed it. > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:22:49 -0500 "John Davies" > > <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > > > writes: > > > > Larry, > > > > > > > > How easy is it to pull the car all the way to the windward > end > > of > > > > the track when the upward angle of the line looks to be > pretty > > big? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > M17 #633 > > > > Lynne l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre > > > > On Mar 9, 2011 8:55 PM, Larry E Yake <leyake(a)juno.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Larry: > > > > > > > > >Can u send a photo of that sheeting car installation? Sees > > a > > > > good idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~~~_/)~~~ Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a picture of it here, down at the bottom of the > page. > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > http://www.msogphotosite.com/M17Tul1.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the > > Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the > > Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > n.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > >

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Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
by Larry E Yake 10 Mar '11

10 Mar '11

I should specify, you don't need to release the off side cleat manually when drawing the car to windward. It does that automatically. Only when you want to lower that track from the high side do you need to release it manually. On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:03:14 -0500 Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> writes: > Thanks, Larry, that's a solution worth looking into. The picture > helps a > lot. Did you ever think of mounting turning blocks on the vertical > face of > the cockpit at the ends of the track? I assume that the track also > needs to > be replaced? > > Rick > M-17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Larry E Yake <leyake(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > It is very easy to move to windward, even when the sail is fully > loaded > > and the mainsheet is tight. You can also rig the car 2:1 if you > feel the > > need. It's designed for it. I've never needed it. > > > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:22:49 -0500 "John Davies" > <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > > writes: > > > Larry, > > > > > > How easy is it to pull the car all the way to the windward end > of > > > the track when the upward angle of the line looks to be pretty > big? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Rick > > > M17 #633 > > > Lynne l > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre > > > On Mar 9, 2011 8:55 PM, Larry E Yake <leyake(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >Larry: > > > > > > >Can u send a photo of that sheeting car installation? Sees > a > > > good idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > >~~~_/)~~~ Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a picture of it here, down at the bottom of the page. > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > http://www.msogphotosite.com/M17Tul1.html > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the > Internet! > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the > Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > n.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > >

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why am I not able to post?
by Flickasf 10 Mar '11

10 Mar '11

I used to be able to post, but no more. What do I do in order to do so? Bert Felton Montgomery 15, #365, Zephyr

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more to add to tankless gas transfer
by Flickasf 10 Mar '11

10 Mar '11

I added a shut off valve to my outboard motor gas tank (made for an outboard with an external tank). About 4 inches past that, I put a cap so that fuel left in the hose past the shut off can't dribble out when I am done refueling. Bert Felton

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Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 10 Mar '11

10 Mar '11

Hi Larry, Thanx much for the info and link. You've done some very nice stuff on corn dog. An inspiration as well as a good information source. That's a very nice, simple track system. Is that something you developed? sal 1986 M15 #361 "Justus" In a message dated 3/10/2011 8:13:35 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, leyake(a)juno.com writes: I should specify, you don't need to release the off side cleat manually when drawing the car to windward. It does that automatically. Only when you want to lower that track from the high side do you need to release it manually. On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:03:14 -0500 Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> writes: > Thanks, Larry, that's a solution worth looking into. The picture > helps a > lot. Did you ever think of mounting turning blocks on the vertical > face of > the cockpit at the ends of the track? I assume that the track also > needs to > be replaced? > > Rick > M-17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Larry E Yake <leyake(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > It is very easy to move to windward, even when the sail is fully > loaded > > and the mainsheet is tight. You can also rig the car 2:1 if you > feel the > > need. It's designed for it. I've never needed it. > > > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:22:49 -0500 "John Davies" > <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > > writes: > > > Larry, > > > > > > How easy is it to pull the car all the way to the windward end > of > > > the track when the upward angle of the line looks to be pretty > big? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Rick > > > M17 #633 > > > Lynne l > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre > > > On Mar 9, 2011 8:55 PM, Larry E Yake <leyake(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >Larry: > > > > > > >Can u send a photo of that sheeting car installation? Sees > a > > > good idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > >~~~_/)~~~ Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a picture of it here, down at the bottom of the page. > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > http://www.msogphotosite.com/M17Tul1.html > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the > Internet! > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the > Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > n.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!

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