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Re: M_Boats: Pop up truck camper recommendations
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Doug, what a coincidence, I am contemplating the same thing. We just sold our Coleman popup tent trailer because the kids are grown and we don't use it anymore and it occupied space in the garage that soon will be the "boat cave", and we obviously can't tow both the M15 and trailer. Anyway, we will just wait until our Jeep Grand Cherokee V8 with 60K miles conks out, which may be quite a few more years, then we will be going to the truck+camper approach. But I have already started researching. Given the weight of the camper plus the weight of the boat and trailer, especially the tongue weight, my feeling is that the camper shell needs to be light for a margin of towing safety. I also favor a "pop-up" type shell that, while on the road, would only extend maybe a foot, less is better, above the cab for less wind drag going forward and less susceptibility to crosswinds. When the truck is stationary, the shell is raised for standing room, either with a canvas tent sealing the hard roof from the sides or a hard-sided design. I have heard very good things about Alaskan campers, but I believe that they are heavy. More realistically, I think a lighter weight design is called for, so I have been looking at designs like this: http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/ There are numerous other brands similar to the ones you see in the above link, with fewer or more amenities. Anyway, hope that helps. Neil

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Pop up truck camper recommendations
by Doug Kelch 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

I am thinking of changing by towing rig to a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton 6 ft bed pickup truck. I am getting wanderlust and would like to tow the M15 around the country and would like to pick up a low profile, light weight, pop up camper. Would any of you have any recommendations on a pop up truck camper/ Thanks Doug Kelch M15 G #310 "Seas the Day"

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Re: M_Boats: Pop up truck camper recommendations
by bownez＠juno.com 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Doug, Good for you, great idea. Hit the road and sail everywhere. Perhaps traveling John Edwards will chime in here, as you know, he's towed his M17 all over God's green earth. (and blue sea?). Bones ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bc7daa7c4dfc2984c4st03vuc

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Re: M_Boats: Pop up truck camper recommendations
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Doug Here are some other links to popup truck camper companies http://www.northstarcampers.com/ http://www.hallmarkrv.com/ http://www.outfittermfg.com/ http://www.palominorv.com/site/default.asp?page=truckcampers http://www.alaskancamper.com/ This should keep you busy researching for awhile :-) Neil

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Jerry's new design
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 14 Apr '10

14 Apr '10

Hi all, Jerry felt like it was time to provide some additional information on the development of his new design. Gail and I are the clients behind the “start up” company that has been working with Jerry Montgomery. Sorry for the delay in offering this information. We really didn’t have enough information to offer and the project wasn ’t far enough along to answer questions. Jerry offered some information at the Havasu Pocket Cruiser event. As long time admirers of the Lyle Hess / Jerry Montgomery design lineage, Gail and I will accept the responsibility of being a custodian of part of that design lineage. We have great respect for their designs. Jerry’s finished design is 16’-9” long and Jerry decided that the boat would be designated as a 17 footer. Many of the suggestions made to Jerry on this board have been incorporated into the design. (eg: sitting headroom, no pole in the cabin, etc.). We would also be interested in any of the “little details” that come to be important with experience, like the current discussion of efficient latches on cockpit hatches. Jerry and I will be pleased to answer questions, but I don’t think it proper to discuss commercial issues on this board. Design issues are welcome and invited as it is our goal to produce the best Jerry Montgomery design to date, and your valuable input helps. So you won’t see any “sales pitches” on this board, at least not from me. For those that might have interest, we have a Web-site in progress that should be up and running in the next 3 weeks. We’ll show drawings of the boat and photos of the progress. The web-site will include a forum. While our production will be of only one design, that design is a cousin to all of the other Hess / Montgomery designs and all interested in that design lineage are invited to participate. Monty sailors are a special group. Their experiences and adventures are always enjoyable. Jerry Montgomery will participate in the forum. Since the boat is still in development, all suggestions that would make the design a better boat are encouraged. The name of the new company is “Sage Marine”. (WWW: SageMarine.US). The yacht will be called a “Sage 17” design by Jerry Montgomery. Thanx much. salngail

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Re: M_Boats: Sold my boat
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 14 Apr '10

14 Apr '10

Congratulations on your new hboat as well as 17 years of Monty fun. I hope your new boat brings another 17 years. Come by and visit now and then. sal In a message dated 4/13/2010 1:32:18 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, johncrews(a)hotmail.com writes: I'm happy to report that I sold my 1974 M17 "Allegretto", newer Pacific trailer, and Johnson 4hp Sailmaster outboard a couple weeks ago. At first I had it sold to a relative of the designer. He was looking for an M17 that he could cut the keel off of and install an new high-performance design. The application was perfect since keel damage due to water penetration into the steel punching ballast is the only problem with my boat. He agreed to buy the boat and promised to send a deposit but was unable to follow through. Then a local boat collector found out about my boat and snapped it up to add to his Lyle Hess collection. I'm delighted because now she will be in a slip near my new Catalina 27 in the State Park Marina at Morro Bay. My part of the slip fee is less than I was paying to keep the M17 in a storage yard. The next day I traded my tow vehicle, a Ford Crown Victoria, in as part of a deal on a new BMW. I will be signing off after 17 years as a Montgomery owner. Carry on. Sincerely, John Crews _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: Sold my boat
by Larry E Yake 14 Apr '10

14 Apr '10

Seventeen years! That's a long time, John. Good luck on your next adventure. Larry On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:31:58 -0700 John Crews <johncrews(a)hotmail.com> writes: > > I'm happy to report that I sold my 1974 M17 "Allegretto", newer > Pacific trailer, and Johnson 4hp Sailmaster outboard a couple weeks > ago. > > > > At first I had it sold to a relative of the designer. He was looking > for an M17 that he could cut the keel off of and install an new > high-performance design. The application was perfect since keel > damage due to water penetration into the steel punching ballast is > the only problem with my boat. He agreed to buy the boat and > promised to send a deposit but was unable to follow through. > > > > Then a local boat collector found out about my boat and snapped it > up to add to his Lyle Hess collection. I'm delighted because now she > will be in a slip near my new Catalina 27 in the State Park Marina > at Morro Bay. My part of the slip fee is less than I was paying to > keep the M17 in a storage yard. > > > > The next day I traded my tow vehicle, a Ford Crown Victoria, in as > part of a deal on a new BMW. > > > > I will be signing off after 17 years as a Montgomery owner. > > > > Carry on. > > Sincerely, > > John Crews > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > >

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Re: M_Boats: Repair, New, Used Main?
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

Hi David, We ran into a similar situation with needing new sails for our "new" 1986 M15 (which we sailed in Havasu on our maiden voyage). We went with Harry at E/P sails and as others have mentioned, he was great to work with and the boat sailed very well with the new sails. sal In a message dated 4/12/2010 7:57:50 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, d_b_grah(a)yahoo.com writes: Over the weekend I managed to tear the mainsail on my mid 1980's Montgomery 15. I haven't been able to bear to inspect it closely yet but I think 2 seems about halfway up the sail tore about halfway from the leech to the luff. I wonder what options I have. The sail is fairly worn and is red, white, and blue. Any suggestions for how to determine if a repair would be best, if a used sail would be best, or a new one would be best would be hugely appreciated. I'd want the best value over the remaining life of the boat determine what is the best approach to me. I live about 6 hours drive from the nearest sail loft. Thanks in advance for any advice! David Grah Bishop, California _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Sold my boat
by John Crews 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

I'm happy to report that I sold my 1974 M17 "Allegretto", newer Pacific trailer, and Johnson 4hp Sailmaster outboard a couple weeks ago. At first I had it sold to a relative of the designer. He was looking for an M17 that he could cut the keel off of and install an new high-performance design. The application was perfect since keel damage due to water penetration into the steel punching ballast is the only problem with my boat. He agreed to buy the boat and promised to send a deposit but was unable to follow through. Then a local boat collector found out about my boat and snapped it up to add to his Lyle Hess collection. I'm delighted because now she will be in a slip near my new Catalina 27 in the State Park Marina at Morro Bay. My part of the slip fee is less than I was paying to keep the M17 in a storage yard. The next day I traded my tow vehicle, a Ford Crown Victoria, in as part of a deal on a new BMW. I will be signing off after 17 years as a Montgomery owner. Carry on. Sincerely, John Crews

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Re: M_Boats: for Sal-
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

Hi Jerry, Sorry 'bout that. I can also be reached at: _sglesser(a)spyderco.com_ (mailto:sglesser@spyderco.com) or Gail's email at: _glesserg(a)AOL.com_ (mailto:glesserg@AOL.com) sal In a message dated 4/12/2010 7:40:06 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org writes: Sal- I'm getting emails kicked back; could you call me one of these evenings? jerry _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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