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Re: M_Boats: Cockpit Cushions
by Tim McInerney 12 Apr '10

12 Apr '10

What kind of bond are you using? -----Original Message----- From: bownez(a)juno.com [mailto:bownez@juno.com] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:54 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cockpit Cushions Joe, Just got my M23 out of storage. I will be launching after normal spring clean-up and a few small projects. Spring has come early to Minnesota. Hope you get time to bond with your boat soon. Thanks, Bones ____________________________________________________________ Artery Clearing Secret Nobel Prize Winning discovery cuts artery plaque by incredible 50%. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bc3344e4d0f51f2a63st06vuc _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: Cockpit Cushions
by bownez＠juno.com 12 Apr '10

12 Apr '10

Joe, Just got my M23 out of storage. I will be launching after normal spring clean-up and a few small projects. Spring has come early to Minnesota. Hope you get time to bond with your boat soon. Thanks, Bones ____________________________________________________________ Artery Clearing Secret Nobel Prize Winning discovery cuts artery plaque by incredible 50%. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bc3344e4d0f51f2a63st06vuc

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Re: M_Boats: Cockpit Cushions
by bownez＠juno.com 12 Apr '10

12 Apr '10

Why thank you Joe! I will probably use them on my blue M23. Wishing you a fabulous sailing season.... Boney ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bc317dbdf39c212958st01vuc

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Re: M_Boats: Cockpit Cushions
by bownez＠juno.com 12 Apr '10

12 Apr '10

Tom, I'll go with California, where pot will soon be legal. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bc2609fbcab32148bcst05vuc

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2 Things I cannot figure out.
by Mitch Carnes 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

One, how to secure hasps on the cockpit lockers? I have room for only one flat washer behind that rim. I'm sure the perfect fit takes great skill on the part of the builder, but I sure would like to fit a nylock nut in there..... Maybe a threaded insert epoxied into the glass face? Two, I want to place a bracket mount compass on the lowest hatch board. But I notice the compass swings off direction when I lower it into position there. Is there some steel in the tube for the centerboard line? I would imagine it's glassed over PVC. (That's what I'd use if I built it) The boat is on the trailer,.... I'll try it this weekend on the water. Monty folks might be glad to know I worked out my reefing lines on the mainsail. And I decided against running lines to the cockpit. Opting instead to install a stained and varnished plank running from companionway hatch to the V-berth which I stand on when going forward. (It doubles as a cocktail table between the setees) I'll take a picture and post it. Mitch M17 656 grace

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Re: M_Boats: Cockpit Cushions
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

I believe that would be Mr Jerry Montgomery. GO In a message dated 4/11/2010 9:45:43 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, Thomas(a)ThomasHoweOnline.com writes: A complete set of 4, medium dark blue, with a couple of small nicks which could be easily patched with vinyl repair kit, FREE (except for shipping) to the first person who can answer the following trivia question: What is the name of the first builder and co conspirator with L.Hess on the Montgomery line of boats. Hint: It's not McCoy. Thomas Howe Mailto:Thomas@TEHowe.com O --------(\ ---------- ~ (\ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ (\ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: I need to know the value of a M-17.
by kdocter 09 Apr '10

09 Apr '10

I found an M-17 in a storage yard with an out-of-state owner. I'm trying to locate the owner. It is an older model with the cutout in the transom and full length black track on each side. Is this one of those with steel punchings?

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Value of M-17
by kdocter 09 Apr '10

09 Apr '10

What is the value of a derelict M-17 of the older persuasion? High ...Low? Critical things to check?

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Re: M_Boats: M17 year model differences
by Bruce Ward 07 Apr '10

07 Apr '10

It took me 25 years of knowing about the M17's to find one - hard feat in northern British Colombia. I travelled to Port Towsend Washington to get one in 2008 hull #32 s/v cerulea from 1974 aluminum rails and 8 hp yamaha electric start mounted on the cutout transom. No issues on this a great pointing sailboat . My at par two cents worth too.

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Re: M_Boats: M17 year model differences LOOONG
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 07 Apr '10

07 Apr '10

Tim, If you like the early model transom/boat - run with what you like. I decided years ago after having experience with all but the current builder models that I wanted an early boat for some of the same reasons people decide against the early boat. My motor is a 25" long shaft - I have mounted it on the cut-out and it currently resides on a fixed mount - I have no problems 'dragging' the motor. (fixed mount is because my motor does not have reverse gear and I need to rotate it - a point to consider). A dry sailed 17 that is reasonably cared for, will serve a long time without ballast or board issues (mine is 1980 build) no board/ballast issues have surfaced to date on my boat. I happen to appreciate and desire the early cockpit, and for cabin space differences - if any - I have no issues as my expectations are tempered. This is a SMALL boat and I don't sit below - naps are big on my list. Early boat also has aluminum toe rail, alum. framed windows (I changed the glazing out to tempered/tinted auto glass- gasket material is available). Ask a late model owner if they wish they had alum. toe rail instead of teak to maintain. The transom/deck joint MAY be an issue but the late boats do not have a 'rub-rail' other than the fiberglass deck flange. The transom joint is not hard to repair when and if necessary. As to cockpit lockers - my opinion is 'if you got'em you fill 'em' - My early model has more than enough room for needed equipment. Traveling light is a good thing in a small boat. Both models are in the end M-17's. I happen to like and specifically sought out the early model.They will both sail well and should have similar values if they are well cared for examples. There is not a lot of difference such as disk brakes/ABS/air bags like you would find in automobiles of differing ages. Enough for my rant in defense of the 'Old Boat' - my opinion only - BTW ever hear a Renault owner say the car was a POS? Not likely. We all believe in what we have at the moment - makes us happy. My 2 cents and worth both of 'em. GO. LB/GF! M-17 # 316a 'that ain't bad gelcoat -it's "patina"! Team Geezer Racing.....Old and in the Way Team Geezer Cruising.....going NIP ...but FAST! In a message dated 4/7/2010 7:17:55 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, seagray(a)embarqmail.com writes: For what it's worth I like the motor mount off the transom. It is spring loaded so it's very easy to lift the motor up to let the prop clear the water. I suppose there is some difference in weight distribution with the motor hanging that additional distance off the transom. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wickett To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 9:43 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 year model differences Full transom with adjustable motor mount allows the motor to be lifted up higher if necessary, so a bit more flexibility. That being said, there are many, many older models still sailing (and motoring). They are all great boats. Get one :) Bill Wickett M17 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Timothy Erwin <sailtim(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I have been looking on the net all over for Montgomery 17's .I notice that > some models have a cut out in the transom for an outboard in the transom. > Other models have a motor mount on the transom. The cut out for the motor > looks to make the most sense to me. I assume that the difference is the year > model. If so, what year models have the outboard cut out in the transom? > > Thanks, Tim Erwin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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