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Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you haveplannedforthewinter months or prior to Havasu?
by bownez＠juno.com 16 Nov '10

16 Nov '10

Neil and Larry, There is always Dri-Dek to use instead of a formal wood grate. I have been using it in both M-boats. The M23 has it bordered in a teak frame. (thank you Dick Lane). Bones ____________________________________________________________ $350,000 Life Insurance Coverage as low as $13.04/month. Free, No Obligation Quotes. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ce20ad08d6602f64fcst01vuc

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Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have plannedforthewinter months or prior to Havasu?
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 16 Nov '10

16 Nov '10

It would most likely be crafted from ipe, similar in look and feel to teak but denser / heavier if I'm not mistaken. The reason I want the grate is because when I sail with crew, the additional weight causes some water to come up through the cb pendant hole where it then sloshes around in the cockpit. The idea is that a grate would allow my shoes to stay dry while also improving the appearance of the cockpit. John Owens at www.jowoodworks.com can answer additional questions about constuction if you have any. John is great to deal with; he repaired my old rudder and built me a new one last year. Neil Original Message: ----------------- From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:21:03 -0800 To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have plannedforthewinter months or prior to Havasu? Neil, you spoke of a hardwood grate. What type of wood are thinking of? What do you think it might cost? I like the idea of a real wood surface to walk on....Thanks. Larry Hughston in 1981 old 189. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf(a)surfbest.net Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:33 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned forthewinter months or prior to Havasu? I hope to finally get a permanent transom-mounted swim ladder on my M15 this winter--an important safety feature--after having procrastinated for a year and having nothing other than a rope ladder that I already know from a summer swim experiment will not cut-it in a real emergency. The gelcoat on my green stripe is also pretty badly dinged up, but I am concerned about my being able to lay a vinyl stripe over it in a nice straight line and without any wrinkles or bubbles in the application. I suspect there's an art to it. My WWII era brass Ludolph of Bremerhaven compass needs to be repaired or replaced. It has a very small diameter so repairing looks like the route I will go. The fluid inside the glass is so dark it cannot be read. A new compass will cost about the same but I would have to cut a larger hole in the bulkhead. It's about $100 either way. I found a compass repair specialist in the Seattle area that says he can repair it. Other than that, if additional funds are available at the time, I might be tempted to spring for new sails at Havasu if the promotional offers are sweet enough. A hardwood grate for my cockpit floor is also on my wish list, which I have spoken with John Owens about. Maybe next year as well. -Neil Dorf '85 M15 Roseville CA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web

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Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for thewinter months or prior to Havasu?
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 15 Nov '10

15 Nov '10

I hope to finally get a permanent transom-mounted swim ladder on my M15 this winter--an important safety feature--after having procrastinated for a year and having nothing other than a rope ladder that I already know from a summer swim experiment will not cut-it in a real emergency. The gelcoat on my green stripe is also pretty badly dinged up, but I am concerned about my being able to lay a vinyl stripe over it in a nice straight line and without any wrinkles or bubbles in the application. I suspect there's an art to it. My WWII era brass Ludolph of Bremerhaven compass needs to be repaired or replaced. It has a very small diameter so repairing looks like the route I will go. The fluid inside the glass is so dark it cannot be read. A new compass will cost about the same but I would have to cut a larger hole in the bulkhead. It's about $100 either way. I found a compass repair specialist in the Seattle area that says he can repair it. Other than that, if additional funds are available at the time, I might be tempted to spring for new sails at Havasu if the promotional offers are sweet enough. A hardwood grate for my cockpit floor is also on my wish list, which I have spoken with John Owens about. Maybe next year as well. -Neil Dorf '85 M15 Roseville CA

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Snow slide breaks canoe in half!!!
by Michael Ray Wisely 15 Nov '10

15 Nov '10

That's a great headline. Dale and Sharon... I've just gotta say that if you live in a place where snow falls off the roof and breaks a boat in half..."It's just too damn cold" I laughed on that one. You are hearty people to live in that. We complain about our "Summer cold spells" in the SF bay area. It gets down to a frigid 55 degrees. Winter can get below freezing a few times, but...cutting a boat in half. The mind boggles... I do like that you let us know you put it back together...ha ha ha... Thanks for the chuckle... Michael Ray Wisely and Family Molly M. M17 # 383 (or 384) I don't remember SF Bay Area, CA

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Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
by Bill Wickett 14 Nov '10

14 Nov '10

I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you. We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring. How about you? Bill M17 Makin' Time

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Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the win ter months or prior to Havasu?
by bownez＠juno.com 14 Nov '10

14 Nov '10

I'm thinking about finally changing the original motor mount assembly to the new Fulton spring assist model I have sitting here in the box.Also need to apply new hull numbers, might have a vinyl sign artist make up something classy. I have a new down-haul and dock lines.A little improvement here, a little improvement there.......... BonesM23 #75 ____________________________________________________________ Refinance Now 3.4% FIXED $160,000 Mortgage: $547/mo. No Hidden Fees. No SSN Req. Get 4 Quotes! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4cdfeb74e03b92a2dd0st02vuc

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Re: M_Boats: cold temps and GRP
by NummiJ＠aol.com 12 Nov '10

12 Nov '10

Only problem I have ever had with cold was when 3 feet of snow slid off the roof and broke a canoe in half. Put it back together still use it. M17 Lento Kala Dale & Sharon Nummi South Range, WI 54874 218-428-9176

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cold temps and GRP
by Tom Jenkins 12 Nov '10

12 Nov '10

Hello folks, I have to get my boat out of the snow tomorrow so I can do the Havasu thing in Feb, and I wondered if 9 degrees Fahrenheit will cause a problem with the hull flexing on the bunks. I know fiberglas is tougher than most plastics, but I don't know about its flexibility at low temps. Comments from you cold weather trailering types would be appreciated. Thanks, Tom Jenkins 2004 M17 Scintilla

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Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 10 Nov '10

10 Nov '10

Larry, I'm really sorry...I totally forgot that you did ask for that. I was supposed to shoot some pics for you of the halyard setup while in Monterey and did forget. I have not had the boat out of the garage and rigged since then. The mast remains in horizontal position diagonally across my garage so not a good place for a picture. This weekend I'm heading up to Alaska on vacation for the week. So it will be a couple of weeks before I have the opportunity to rig and launch...probably at Folsom. I'll take the picture at that time. Neil Original Message: ----------------- From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:19:26 -0700 To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Neil, did you have any photos of your mainsail halyard system that I could view? Thanks, -----Larry in old 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:16 AM To: ndorf(a)surfbest.net; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Thanks Neil. ----Larry Old M-15 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf(a)surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:58 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Larry, I'll get a few digital photos when I next rig in Monterey a week from today. Original Message: ----------------- From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:48:33 -0700 To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Neil, where are you sailing these days? Can you post some images of the main sheet rig? ---Larry in Old M-15 hull 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf(a)surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:27 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Hi Gordon, On my 1985 M15, I have a swivel cam cleat with bullseye that, I don't know, may have been original equipment. The stainless plate to which both the cleat and bullseye are attached has bent down, resulting in more effort (more leaning down) to secure the mainsheet when I need to do so. I've bent the ss plate up a couple of times but you can only bend ss so much before it will break. For a visual, the my current hardware looks very much like the Harken model 240 (look on Defender). Rather than replace with a new 240, after talking with a Harken rep I have decided for the purposes you mentioned, to go with a combo ratchet block and angled cam swivel base. Prbably something like the Harken #1235 ratchet block attached to the #144 swivel cam cleat. This will should only provide a better angle of control for the skipper, but also more purchase in ratcheting in the main under sporting conditions and close points of sail. All it takes is money :-( What say the rest of you M15 sailors? Any other ideas? Neil / 1985 M15 / Roseville CA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft(r) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange

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Re: M_Boats: calling Bob Eeg
by Neil Dorf 09 Nov '10

09 Nov '10

Me too! -----Original Message----- From: Joe Murphy <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:35 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: calling Bob Eeg Bob, Where can I get some more of the green vinyl tape used for the sheer stripe? I dinged mine up and need to either totally replace or patch in. Any suggestions?? Thanks much, Joe M17 Seafrog ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: calling Bob Eeg bob: thanks for the info. good to read that mboats are being built during these difficult economic times. dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA --- On Tue, 11/9/10, Bob From California <ocean37(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Dave...sorry but there are no more of my boarding ladders available. They are out of production and the ones I have in stock [The entire original message is not included]

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