July 2009 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

stern ladder on M 15
by flickasf＠aol.com 31 Jul '09

31 Jul '09

I recommend putting a Windline four step ladder on the stern. ?You can buy it directly from Windline. ?See Bob Becker's article as one way to install it. ?I did something similiar??pulling a Starboard backing plate after with two thin lines. ?I pulled them through the top two holes and was able to line it up so that I could bolt it. ? I had an inspection port ?on the inside of the starboard transom. ?It allowed me to tighten the nuts on the bolts. Bert M 15, Zephyr

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Welcome aboard Mike...
by Lou 31 Jul '09

31 Jul '09

Hi Mike, just a note to wish you well on your new purchase. What size boat is Catawampus?

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MOB
by John and DesAnne Hippe 31 Jul '09

31 Jul '09

Hello All, Tom's sport he has with his kids -- pulling them behind and then doing MOB drills sounds like a lot of fun and had me thinking about my current MOB practice. I was taught to fall off on a broad reach, go out for a few boat lengths (can't remember off hand how far but can visualize it when actually doing it), jibe and then come back up on a close haul to the individual. While this works, it does seem to put a fair amount of distance between individual in the water an the boat. Since I am essentially single-handing with two small children I wanted to see if there are faster ways to respond given the M-15 nimbleness. Yesterday I was practicing in light air with little sea running. From a close hauled course,I was able to drop an object overboard and then do a very quick 360 by tacking through the wind, falling off, jibing and coming right up on the object. This worked quite well. Don't know if it would work in higher wind or with more seas running... I know brighter minds have looked into this and am wondering what you all thought? Respectfully, John M-15 Jester

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Re: M_Boats: More newbie questions...Cruising storage solutions?
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 31 Jul '09

31 Jul '09

Thanx Dave, you are a great source for a world of info on Montgomery boats. sal In a message dated 7/30/2009 9:35:58 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, wdscobie(a)yahoo.com writes: SWEET PEA, my M17, had the motor mount moved from port to starboard side. her last owner told me that the owner before him was told by her first owner (everyone follow that) the mount was moved to balance the boat: motor weight v. that filling the starboard deep locker (and in SWEET PEA's case the galley). IMO this is overkill. fill the boat with items for a cruise and add the crew the entire idea of balance goes out the window as the weight of the motor v. anchor is less than where all the other gear is stowed. OK, maybe if you are a racer the balance idea is 'worth it'. IMO you have 'rail meat' to balance the boat. now, sitting 'mostly empty' SWEET PEA stays on her lines. thing is, so are other M17s with the motor on the port side. i use rigid totes for most storage. these slide down the starboard 1/4-berth and under the cockpit floor. very small totes are used in the galley space and under the 1/4 berth. thus far i've used only soft duffel type bags for storage under the forward part of the v-berth. for longer cruises i put 2 5-gallon rigid coleman water jugs under the cockpit floor. i carry two anchors - a danforth and a 'claw' knock-offs. both have their own 20' of chain and 200' of rode. i believe both are 9# anchors. in puget sound the length of rode is important ... my trip at the beginning of this week there were 12' tides. both anchors reside in the port side deep locker. with all my stuff stored for a cruise SWEET PEA sits level. if she is leaning for any reason but wind it is because of the moving human 'rail meat'. ;-) dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Bill Wickett <billwick(a)gmail.com> wrote: Just 2 adults using an M17. Lots of different totes and open baskets out there to slide under the cockpit or down the quarter berth. (wow, that starboard one goes waaay back!). We looked at some perforated plastic baskets tonight that would push on down either quarter berth. For the starboard side would have to link them together to retrieve the back 2 easily. These same also work under the cockpit as well. We thought that having lids might be a hassle removing them in the relatively confined space of the seating area. We used dry bags on our previous open boat. Often were diving deep into them to come up with the desired item, or emptying the bag completely. What have you found works well for you? Rigid totes or flexible bags? With the an outboard motor mounted on port side, and the deep cockpit locker there as well, do you find you are weighted more to port side? We have a knock off claw with 10 feet of chain. I feel that an anchor should be readily available at all times, so the deep port locker in a bucket is a logical place, except for the weight distribution issue. I believe the previous owner kept it in a bag below the cockpit, on starboard side. Only accessible by going below to get it out. Where do you store your primary anchor and rode? Thanks for any insights on these questions. Bill Wickett M17 #622...still not named!! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=htt… yExcfooterNO62)

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Isle Royale Slide Show
by John and DesAnne Hippe 31 Jul '09

31 Jul '09

Hey Gordon and Bones, Great pictures. Looks like you had a great time. I can't wait to get up there in a couple of weeks. John M-15 Jester

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New Montgomery owner
by Mike Shell 31 Jul '09

31 Jul '09

I recently purchased "Catawampus" (hull #191) from Wendell Spence and just joined the group. Mike Michael Shell

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Tow vehicles for M17
by Bill Wickett 31 Jul '09

31 Jul '09

We are looking at an M17 and thinking about tow vehicles. Any M-boat owners tow an M17 with a Ford Ranger or Dodge Dakota? Ranger with a 4 liter engine is rated at 4000 lbs tow capacity. Dakota is not as clearly defined in the manuals, but says it is up to 7,000 with correct equipment. I think that would be the 4.7L V-8 and tow package. I see that the Dakota has an overdrive override for towing hauling. I think the Ranger might be a bit narrow, but have not compared the width of the 2 vehicles. Need to do a bit of on-line research. I think the M17 on the Pacific trailer is probably 7' 6". The mission would be for towing 1 hour from home to launch and return, with two to four longer trips each summer of 3-6 hours distance. 6 hours would get us to the North Channel of Lake Huron. Any experiences you have to share would be appreciated. One last question, does anyone trailer with the O/B mounted on the boat (adjustable bracket) or do you stow the motor in your vehicle? Stowing in the rear of an SUV does not seem all that safe to me, unless it is strapped down. That is why we are looking at the pickup option. Thanks much to all. Bill Wickett, Ontario

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Larry
by Larry E Yake 31 Jul '09

31 Jul '09

I talked to Larry last night. He said he's missing you this week. He made it up to Sandpoint yesterday and was glad to get out of the boat and walk around to get his back loosened up. He didn't get in to any lightening storms, thank the Lord. Hope you are having a good week. Ardis

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Re: M_Boats: M-15's SWEEP THE CRUISER CHALLENGE X!!!
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 30 Jul '09

30 Jul '09

Hi Blake, You mentioned "It's a shame we can't find a way to get a bunch of us together for a shoot out every now and then..." I'm new to the group and have one boat being build (M-23 hull #2) and we're purchasing an M-15 (#361) to sail a Monty while our 23 is being built. It's a shame that there are no Montgomery "shoot outs" to have fun with. A local Colorado M Boat sailor has talked about a "Hess / Montgomery gathering". Perhaps these can be locally organized? Are there any M boat clubs? sal In a message dated 7/27/2009 4:18:44 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, blkreimer(a)yahoo.com writes: Late breaking news..... With very pleasant breezes on a typical foggy day in Monterey, Montgomery 15 boats placed First and Second in the small boat division at the Cruiser Challenge X hosted by the Potter Yachters and MPYC. That dirty, rotten braggart, Blake Reimer and IOTA took First Place with two seconds and a first for the 3 race series in a very tough tussle with 'Midget' an M15 owned and deftly handled by defending champion Bob Truman, who took two bullets and a fourth for Second Place honors. Finishing out 7th were M15 owners George and Debbie Morrison who improved considerably between Challenge IX and X. Given that a well sailed M15 will be faster than a well sailed Potter 14, the finish line was a 3-way tussle between IOTA, MIDGET and the JEAN ALDEN, a beautiful, black, 15ft catboat built and skippered by Mike Higgins, who took 3rd for the day. Based on the first two races, Bob clearly had the quicker boat and better handling but faltered in the final race when he chose to start the race with a reefed main in the quickening afternoon breezes. Reimer took note and quickly hanked on his new EP 'storm jib', keeping his main full and that seemed to make the big difference as Mr. Truman dropped back several places to fourth. There was at least one M-17 in the 'big' boat class. 'Six', owned by - and I am embarassed to say how age affects my memory - Whats-his-name. Trading his older M15 for the new red striped beauty, racing for the first time in the new boat he held on for 5th place. What a good time we all had! And Montgomery boats are FUN to race against each other! They are remarkably quick and responsive to tiller and trim adjustments. When I got IOTA upwind in the breeze and dialed in, you could feel her accelerate like a horse turning for home. It's a shame we can't find a way to get a bunch of us together for a shoot out every now and then... It was a really good weekend with the Potters and I really appreciate the effort they made to put it on. Blake Reimer M-15 IOTA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=htt…)

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Cruiser Challenge
by jerry 30 Jul '09

30 Jul '09

Does anyone have the results for classes other than the small boats? Couldn't seem to find a website. jerry

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