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Re: M_Boats: Reefing for a M-15
by John R. Butler 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

One thing I don't recall seeing posted is what I did first in Joy, now in Rejoyce!, is to "lower the boom." (Like Clancy, the Irishman when his dander got up . . . ) With ample space between the usual location of the foot of the sail a foot and a half or so above it's lowest possible point, I just slack the main halyard and haul the boom downhaul until it is almost touching the hatch slide, then snug the halyard again. That lowers the center of effort considerably, but leaves the full drive of the mainsail intact. I sometimes do that before putting in a reef, quicker and easier on a tired old body! Try it -- you'll like it! .--.-. | ( ( )__ \ _ / (_, \ ) ,_) | -== (_) ==- -'--`--' /|\ / \ / | \ | ^^ / | \ / | \ ^^ /361| \ / | \ / | \ ^^ / | \ ___/____| \ ______|_ \ ___ _______/ ==== \___\___/ | “MONTGOMERY 15” / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~^~~^=~^~~-=~^~^~=~^~=~~^~= ~^~=~~^=~^~~^~^=~^~-~^~~^~= ^~=~^~=~~^~~=~~=~^~=~~^~~^~^^ John Butler - First M15 was #264

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Re: M_Boats: M15, experience (lack of) and location
by Saltm17＠aol.com 20 Apr '08

20 Apr '08

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For Sale -Tucson Sailing Club list
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

_http://www.tucsonsailingclub.com/TheBoatYard.htm_ (http://www.tucsonsailingclub.com/TheBoatYard.htm) 6 & 1/2 foot Montgomery fiberglass dinghy $800. 9 foot West Marine inflatable $400. Call Fred Shelley 399-3146 _Derfsails(a)aol.com_ (mailto:Derfsails@aol.com) GO M-17 # 316a LB/GF! **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

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Re: M_Boats: reefing
by Conbert H Benneck 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

Hi Tom, You really should have reefed about 5 minutes before the idea struck, "that maybe you should roll in a reef...." I learned that the hard way. Thereafter, I would reef early - you can always shake it out again if you don't need it - but the longer you wait to reef, the more difficult the job becomes. Reef early; reef often; keep the boat on it's feet, and don't spill the beer by putting the lee rail under water. Been there: done that too. Connie ----- Original Message ---- From: Tom Jenkins <tjenk(a)gte.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:39:28 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: reefing Ian, Thanks for your comment. I can relate to "interesting". Love the name of your boat. Is it whimsy, or the name of some local animal? Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ian Black Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:48 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: reefing Hello Tom, I can recall at least one time when I should have used my second set of reefpoints and my storm jib. I didn't... it was... mmm... interesting. Ian M-17 Seaweeble > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:26:23 -0700> From: tjenk(a)gte.net> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: reefing> > Hello M17 sailors, > > > > The main on my 2004 M17 came with a single set of reef points, but I am not> shy about have a second set installed if they are likely to come in handy.> Has anyone out there needed to double reef, with or without a storm jib? > > As always, I prefer to learn from the experiences of others, rather than> finding out the hard way.> > Thanks in advance for any comments.> > > > > > Tom Jenkins> > M17 Scintilla> > _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N165 3A _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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New M-17, Old Sailor
by James Poulakis 18 Apr '08

18 Apr '08

Hello Montgomery owners, sailors, and admirers. My name is Jim and I am the proud owner of "Spirit", a new M-17 sailing primarily in the San Francisco Bay area. Spirit is my 50th birthday present to myself because... well... Because I'm 50 now and I want one... and my accountant can go take a hike. I started sailing at the age of 12 when my father bought me an orange SportYak with a plastic sail. Shortly thereafter my GPA plummeted and he began accusing me of having "boats on the brain". The boats that followed were a Colombia 22, a 30' Tahiti Ketch, a 27' Albin Vega, and a Sabre 30. All great boats in their own right (Even the SportYak. She was a deathtrap but I loved her so). But enough about me. Let's talk about my boat: Spirit was completed in about three months (my experience with Bob Eeg and Montgomery boats was, and continues to be, enjoyable). She had no major modifications (why mess with a good thing?). She does have the anchoring package, and a couple of pad eyes on the cabin top for safety harness/jacklines. There is no electrical system, holding tank, inboard diesel, refrigeration, water heater, or any of those other annoyances. She is equipped with a shiny new Mercury 4hp outboard, an Achilles LT-2 dinghy, a 14# Delta anchor, and a West Marine 6# Performance anchor. The past few weeks have been spent tweaking and adjusting. To date, all of Spirit's sailing has been done in the very sheltered (but windy) waters near Redwood City. So far her sailing qualities are surpassing my expectations. The only serious concern has been boom length. Spirit's seems a bit long and can be made to hit the backstay relatively easily. Older booms are around 7'10". The extrusion on mine is 8 foot -1/2 inch. Tweaking will continue before the hacksaw comes out. If anyone has questions about how a new, stock, M-17 is equipped - don't be shy. Thanks for Your Indulgence, Jim

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Cruising World
by Steve and Diana Parsons 18 Apr '08

18 Apr '08

As I was dreaming my way across the ocean in Cruising World, I stumbled on an ad for Montgomery Sailboats. I am not sure if there have been others, but this is the first I have seen since Jerry used to advertise in Small Boat Journal. It's good to see the boats back in print. I hope this brings Bob some additional business and keeps things going strong (like the boat). My suspicion is that with fuel prices going through the stratosphere, quality boats like the Monty's are going to become more and more popular. Check out page 104 in the May edition.

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M15, experience (lack of) and location
by Herb Stokes 18 Apr '08

18 Apr '08

Hello all, I'm very close to ordering an M15 and thought I'd try to get some reassurance before I jump. I have very little sailing experience (maybe 10 or 12 trips) but have 30-35 years boating experience, so I feel I have a good handle on the basic seamanship aspect of things. Here on the South Carolina coast we get an "afternoon seabreeze" of about 12-15 mph almost everyday throughout the summer. I've been looking at alot of different boats for a long time and I keep coming back to the Montgomerys. I'll be sailing the rivers and harbors, not out front. It is reasonable to think an M15 is a good choice for this. And, at 56, is this to lively a boat to manage, while leaning to sail? From all the reading I've done, I know there are a lot of seasoned veterans out there, so I'd appreciate any input you guys might have. Herb Stokes ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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re: Kendall with more info
by Steve R. 18 Apr '08

18 Apr '08

Kendall, Good luck with your project. I am sure everything will turn out well. One thing to be concerned about in pressure washing the cockpit is the only drain is the opening for the centerboard pendant. You may spend more time clearing debris from the drain than washing. With the CB removed it should go better. If I were in you situation I would think about plugging the drain somehow and periodically bailing with a bucket. After pressure washing the fiberglass I would suggest wiping down with acetone. Just make sure you have some ventilation, especially if you will be on the interior. To each his own, but I have removed the plywood that covers the porta-potti and the cushion insert that goes on top of the plywood. I suggest you finish everything else and go sailing to see if you need those or can live without them. The plywood for the hatch boards is 3/8 inches thick, IIRC. A few years ago Tod M., Bill W. and I split a 4' x 8' sheet of teak faced ply from Boulter Plywood in Mass. They rough cut the sheet into four small pieces for each of us, which gave us enough for a spare. I think since Bill and I had a 15 our pieces were 30" wide and the ones for Tod's 17 were 36". The cost of cutting was not much and it really saved on shipping. They allowed us to pay separately and shipped directly to us. Maybe someone would like to split a sheet with you. I can trace the patterns out for my hatch boards but it may be a few weeks before I can get around to it. Let us know how everything turns out. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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Re: M_Boats: M15, experience (lack of) and location
by Conbert H Benneck 17 Apr '08

17 Apr '08

Hi Herb, I've sailed most of my life. Had a 29 footer for 26 years; worked my way up to a 38 footer - found I was over boated.... and then at 72 years of age I downsized to a Bolger MICRO, a ComPac 16, and finally the M15. The M15 is an absolute delight to sail, and I only gave up sailing at about 84 year of age, when Neptune tapped me on the shoulder and suggested I was getting a bit old for mast stepping. The only caveat is, that being a 15 footer, it sails well with two people on board - with three and even four if the others are children. You just don't want it to squat in the stern, so weight distribution is reasonably critical. I sailed our M15 mostly by myself, sitting as close to the companionway as I could. M15s are great boats. You'll have lots of fun with yours.... Connie Benneck ex M15 #400 LEPPO ----- Original Message ---- From: Herb Stokes <hms152(a)yahoo.com> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:25:21 AM Subject: M_Boats: M15, experience (lack of) and location Hello all, I'm very close to ordering an M15 and thought I'd try to get some reassurance before I jump. I have very little sailing experience (maybe 10 or 12 trips) but have 30-35 years boating experience, so I feel I have a good handle on the basic seamanship aspect of things. Here on the South Carolina coast we get an "afternoon seabreeze" of about 12-15 mph almost everyday throughout the summer. I've been looking at alot of different boats for a long time and I keep coming back to the Montgomerys. I'll be sailing the rivers and harbors, not out front. It is reasonable to think an M15 is a good choice for this. And, at 56, is this to lively a boat to manage, while leaning to sail? From all the reading I've done, I know there are a lot of seasoned veterans out there, so I'd appreciate any input you guys might have. Herb Stokes ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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M15, experience............
by Herb Stokes 17 Apr '08

17 Apr '08

John, I live about 25 miles south of Charleston on Wadmalaw Island. Where do you sail when you come to the coast? Everyone else: Thanks for the response. That's what I needed to hear. As time goes on, I'm sure I'll need a lot of questions answered and look forward to reading all the past posts (since I've just discovered this list thing) and the ones to come........Thanks again Herb Stokes ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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