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San Juan rendezvous report
by Larry E Yake 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

Well, another San Juan Islands cruise is in the books. I've been trying to write a trip report for the last couple days, but there is just too much to put in an e-mail, and it kept turning into a boring log-book-type narrative, so let me just give you some of the highlights. Attendees: David Scobie M15 David Barnhart M15 Buttercup Larry Yake M17 CornDog Gary Hyde M17 Hydeaway Eldor and Dorothy Eeisen fixed keel M17 Motu Iti Mark and Roberta Dvorscak M23 Faith Sean and 'Jo Mulligan M23 Dauntless Rick and Melanie Agrella M23 Raven Dick Lane NonSuch 26 Swoose Destinations: Port of Anacortes, for the opening and final weekends. Moorage at Cap Sante Marina. Lots of visitors came down to see the Monty's. Group dinner. Various Dubious Awards presentations. "Winners" took their "rewards" in good spirit. Sailed on Sean's M23, and tried out my new drifter. WooHoo! Blakely Island Marina. Beautiful little spot. Group BBQ / potluck in the picnic shelter. Mostly light winds, but we stuck to our sails most of the way, are were rewarded with a vigorous sail across Rosario Strait, fighting upwind against the current to reach our port. Joined there by Dick and Dave B. Blind Bay anchorage on Shaw Island, after touring East Sound, Orcas Island. Light or no wind to start, but those who kept at it found strong winds funneling into the northern end of East Sound. Sails were reefed, only to be shaken out again as we came out of the sound to find dying breezes. Motored to Blind Bay for a quiet night on the hook. Kayaks and dinghys got some use as we visited from boat to boat. Port of Friday Harbor. Started out motoring, ended up sailing in strong winds and dodging tidal rips. Moorage at the marina. Neat town to explore. Lots of cool boats to drool on. Stuart Island State Marine Park. Left EARLY to catch favorable tide. Great sail. One tack all the way. A sail I thought might take all day took less than 3 hours. Shared space on a float dock with picnic tables. Kayaks and dinghys used to get to shore for great hikes to view points. Several folks enjoyed a campfire on shore overlooking Prevost Harbor. Sucia Island State Marine Park. Little or no wind until the last stretch from Orcas to Sucia, then a fine sail in lumpy seas trying to hold a course against a northbound tide. Wind trickled out as we drifted into Fossil Bay. Shared dock space. (Boats were lining up for our spots when we left Friday.) Beautiful hikes, good sunset. A lousy forecast for Saturday had us sailing for Anacortes on Friday, with the plan to pull out Sat. am before the rain hit in the afternoon. Good plan, bad forecast. We got soaked Saturday morning as we loaded up for the long drive home. Friday's sail was fun, though, with squirelly winds making us work. Dvorscak's stayed out a couple more days, and after a couple wet nights, pulled out in the sunshine. Total miles covered, about 110nm. Only burned 2 gal. of gas. Honorable mention: Mulligans came all the way from Arizona and Eeisens travelled clear from Texas for this cruise! Tidbits: Floating winch handles are slippery when wet, and they do float. / FRS radios don't. / Companionway latches should have the hinged part on the hatch board instead of the sliding hatch cover, or it may flip over and trap you in the cabin. / Fixed keel M17's sail to wind like a tiger. (If Motu Iti comes on the market again, that's a fine sailing vessel.) / Sean has done a beautiful job on Dauntless, despite his attempts at modesty. / Rick is doing a great job on Raven, a boat which many had written off as a lost cause before Agrella's bought her. / Dvorscak's Faith still sets the standard for mint condition M23's. / If you stand around on the dock and look hungry, people will feed you. I didn't discover I forgot my cookstove until Wednesday night when I decided to make some Jiffy Pop. / Sean's navigation skills improved immensely over the week. "Hey Larry, shouldn't we be turning left around this point?" "Um, check your compass, Sean." <grin> It was a great cruise and a great group once again, but then, hey, it just doesn't get any better than sailing with fellow Monty's. Larry

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Re: M_Boats: Re: "Flying Lateen Sail"
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

In a message dated 6/19/2007 9:13:19 AM US Mountain Standard Time, theoldcat(a)cox.net writes: www.flyinglateen.com My first response would be to contact the folks at Ullman Sails, as they made the sail for the boat on the webpage. Ask them what they think. Second - It appears a little complicated and "rigid" for a trailerable boat - some of the efficiency may be lost by virtue of scale - the struts(?) may be large and increase windage and the deadly 'weight aloft' issue comes into play. Furling is fine when it works (CDI the BEST IMHO) but it really sucks when the 'motor' on your ONLY sail is not operational. Motor on your sail - I don't know about this. I think it is a case of complicating a good idea - although I have no knowledge of a suitable reefing system for a lateen sail that is any different from the customary (benefit?). There is a webpage with a - Feathering- lateen sail (Pacific style) that I saw years ago looked promising? Some Potters use a Sunfish rig - gotta love that! (a little underpowered for my 1500# boat) Maybe spot on for a M-15 sailed shorthanded or in breezy conditions. My question re: the Flying Lateen - how does the leading edge rotate by the side struts on a broad reach or a run - one of the advantages to a cat or lateen or unstayed rig is the ability to sail by the lee - I don't see this happening on the Flying Lateen? (old dogitis) This is what is great about this sport - innovations on one of the oldest modes of water trans. in the 21st century! I wish the folks at Flying Lateen all the best and much success. They have dedicated a lot of effort to the project. Now if I can just figger out how to turn my main into a 'flat top', fathead and look (ugly) but efficient like the AC guys Hmmmmmmmmm? Sean, Jerry -running backstays controlled by my Palm Treo phone with an infra red receiver powered by a Solarex 10 watt panel -sealed battery and .... NO stop the madness! Have a great day, I am going to take my medicine now.......... GO M-17 #316a sometimes parading as #210 (Sail#), its a covert thing - don't ask, the guys at Port Hueneme Naval Surface Warfare will pay you a visit if you ask ?'s. Something about der Homeland Security. Nurse!!!! Where's my medicine??????????? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Re: "Flying Lateen Sail"
by John R. Butler 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

Who, besides me, has checked out this updated 5,000-year-old sail? I can't help but wonder how one would look on "REJOYCE!" Download the website www.flyinglateen.com and then post your thoughts and comments! .--.-. | ( ( )__ \ _ / (_, \ ) ,_) | -== (_) ==- -'--`--' /|\ / \ / | \ | ^^ / | \ / | \ ^^ /361| \ / | \ / | \ ^^ / | \ ___/____| \ ______|_ \ ___ _______/ ==== \___\___/ | “MONTGOMERY 15” / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~^~~^=~^~~-=~^~^~=~^~=~~^~= ~^~=~~^=~^~~^~^=~^~-~^~~^~= ^~=~^~=~~^~~=~~=~^~=~~^~~^~^^ John Butler - Sailing again. Praise the Lord!

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Re: Lightning Protection
by John R. Butler 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

Will I be struck by lightning? Interesting question, and many interesting answers if you read all of the possible links. I guess each of us must read the advice, make her/his own decision, and then live with it. I have, since sailing on the Gulf of Mexico too many decades ago, and haven't been struck by lightning yet. Will you excuse an old man's warped sense of humor and cynicism? I couldn't help but wonder if the author of the excellent article in the link wasn't confusing reducing his gross tonnage with reducing his chances of getting fried? I also once wondered if a local garage was offering to increase miles per gallon by reducing the weight of one's car with their "lightening lube." Looking up "lightening" in my dictionary, I find: "a drop in the level of the uterus during the last weeks of pregnancy as the head of the fetus engages in the pelvis," or "make or become lighter in weight, pressure, or severity", and the following discussion clarifies the differences between lightening and lightning (the first has three syllables, the second just two): "USAGE Years ago, the phrase it is lightening (as in 'thundering and lightening') was contracted to it is light'ning, which eventually became further shortened to it is lightning. In modern use, the word lightning stands on its own as a noun (: did you see that lightning?) and a verb ( | it looks as if it's going to start lightning). Today, in the context of electrical storms, lightening would likely be considered a misspelling of lightning, rather than a variant spelling." John R. Butler, #361, "Rejoyce!" theoldcat(a)cox.net

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Re: Lightning Protection
by Jslubliner＠aol.com 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

Best cure for lightning protection is the "bigger boat rule". Find someone with a taller mast than a 15 or 17 and stay close. Offer assistance if they get hit. John in Tucson Former Coyote owner. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Re: Mike Fredericks' Q on Lightning
by John R. Butler 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

My personal experience in my Pearson Triton on Lake Pontchartrain during a horrendous thunderstorm back in the '60s is that neither boat is at great risk. My excellent grounding system seemed to continually discharge the clouds as they passed over us, thereby never allowing the potential between the clouds and my mast to reach the necessary difference to cause a lightning strike. The continual "sizzling" from the mast head, and the extremely loud static on the radios (and perhaps the hair on my arms standing up straight?) made me believe that a continual discharge is much safer than a sudden discharge. Another sailboat near to me did not experience the phenomenon of continual discharge, but he didn't get hit, either. I probably kept him safe, too! Oh yes, the sailing was terrific, too! .--.-. | ( ( )__ \ _ / (_, \ ) ,_) | -== (_) ==- -'--`--' /|\ / \ / | \ | ^^ / | \ / | \ ^^ /361| \ / | \ / | \ ^^ / | \ ___/____| \ ______|_ \ ___ _______/ ==== \___\___/ | “MONTGOMERY 15” / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~^~~^=~^~~-=~^~^~=~^~=~~^~= ~^~=~~^=~^~~^~^=~^~-~^~~^~= ^~=~^~=~~^~~=~~=~^~=~~^~~^~^^ John Butler - Sailing again. Praise the Lord!

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San Juan Cruise Pics
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

So we don't plug up the board, if you would like a link to the San Juan Pics send me an email to _nebwest2(a)aol.com_ (mailto:nebwest2@aol.com) rather than responding on the message board. I'll be happy to send them to you. I will be away for two days starting tomorrow morning so if you send a request after tonight be patient, I'll send you the link as soon as I get off duty on Wed. Thanks Sean M23 Dauntless ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Re: M_Boats: San Juan Cruise Pics
by DMOSTUE＠comcast.net 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

Sean, Yes, please. This would be just what the doctor ordered. Dan M15 #500 -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Nebwest2(a)aol.com > Hey everyone. I've been trying to find a way to share our pics of the San > Juan trip but have been unable to upload them to the Havasumontgomerys site for > some unknown reason. I was able to load them up to a photo album on AOL > Photos but that requires that I send an email link to each individual person to > see them. I had the emails of all of the members of the cruise so they have > received the pics. I have found a way to share them but it is kind of > cumbersome. If you would like to see them send me an email saying so and I'll > reply to > you with the necessary link page so you can just click it and see the photo > album. > > Sean and 'Jo > M23 Dauntless > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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cape cod sailing
by DMOSTUE＠comcast.net 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

Hello all, I will be out on Cape Cod roughly 7/11 - 7/16. I am hoping someone out that way would be willing let me crew for them. If you've read any of my postings you know I am very green and almost useless but would be very grateful for the experience. You can contact me off-line at dmostue(a)comcast.net. Thanks. Dan Mostue M15 #500

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San Juan Cruise Pics
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

Hey everyone. I've been trying to find a way to share our pics of the San Juan trip but have been unable to upload them to the Havasumontgomerys site for some unknown reason. I was able to load them up to a photo album on AOL Photos but that requires that I send an email link to each individual person to see them. I had the emails of all of the members of the cruise so they have received the pics. I have found a way to share them but it is kind of cumbersome. If you would like to see them send me an email saying so and I'll reply to you with the necessary link page so you can just click it and see the photo album. Sean and 'Jo M23 Dauntless ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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