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M-15 Keel Surgery Sailing Vessel Pelican
by Jim Sadler 30 May '07

30 May '07

http://picasaweb.google.com/jascopacific/M15KeelRepair Ok It has been almost 3 mo. 4 days 2 hrs 5 min since my last taste of rum. After 3 days of chiseling out epoxy steel punching I am starting to think about that jug I have stashed in the bilge how good a little sip would taste. My mouth feels like dry rot. I will hold off at least until the sun dips below the yard arm. The steel is out!! Now what do I do? pellets or ingots? I really appreciate all the help and suggestions and moral support from this form. How I am able to help some one else. Captain Jim Sailing Vessel Pelican

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Re: M_Boats: Honda 5 hp
by Eeeisen＠aol.com 29 May '07

29 May '07

Just wanted to let y'all know that we have arrived in the Northwest from Texas. We are currently in Everett, WA and will be heading up to Ancortes Wednesday afternoon or Thursday morning. We are so excited! The weather has been beautiful! Hope it stays this way. Eldor and Dorothy Motu iti M-17 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Re: M_Boats: M 17 first sail
by bownez＠juno.com 29 May '07

29 May '07

Well said Gary, I had great sailing on my M23 over the weekend as well. There are two Hess boats in my marina, mine and a Norsea 27. They seem to turn the most heads and generate the most questions. Kudos galore to Lyle, Jerry and Bob. Bones

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Re: M_Boats: Honda 5 hp
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 29 May '07

29 May '07

Tod, Clarence and Sean, Thanks for the helpful tips, I will be back to the boat on Saturday and I will see if I can get her fixed. Sean, sounds like a great trip If you get some good pictures please send them along. Thanks Gary ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Honda 5 hp
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 29 May '07

29 May '07

I agree with the previous posters that a bad connection in the fuel line will lead to the problems you are having. I just learned a new glitch that can also cuase the same problems. My Yamaha kept losing power then dying after running for a few minutes at low rpm. When I would check the bulb it would be soft and if I kept pumping it occasionaly the motor would continue to run fine. I changed every fitting, tightened every clamp, even changed complete fuel lines and still had the same problem. A knowledgeable friend figured it out in a bout 2 seconds. He told me I probably had a very small pinhole in one of the fuel pump diaphragms. As long as the motor was revved up the pump was still strong enough to draw fuel through the primer bulb's check valve. As soon as I idled down it wasn't strong enough to draw through the check valve. As soon as it exausted the available fuel on the engine side of the primer bulb it would crap out. Pump the bulb a few times and it would fire right back up. I bought a diaphragm from boats.net for about $15.00, put it in which was a piece of cake, and whamo! she's running like a top again. Heading out tomorrow morning for the 1300+ mile drive to meet up with Larry and the gang in the San Juans. It's gonna be a long trip to get up there but we are really excited..and believe it or not there are folks coming from a lot further away then we are.....all the way from Texas in fact! We should arrive in Anacortes Friday, early afternoon. The group will be having dinner together Saturday night in Anacortes and then heading out Sunday morning. If your a Monty owner/fan but can't make the trip (and live up that way) come on down and say hi, we'd love to meet you. Sean and Jo M23 Dauntless ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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re: mystery smell
by Steve R. 29 May '07

29 May '07

Rick there is something wrong if you smell a strong resin odor. I have smelled it in my boat when I sawed or drilled a opening, but when I coated the edges with epoxy for waterproofing that took care of the odor. Have you or a PO possibly cut a hole somewhere and not sealed it? steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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mystery smell
by Rick Langer 28 May '07

28 May '07

I recall thinking that the strong smell in the forward locker of my boat was from the styrofoam. Instead it was the out gassing of the polyester resin used to build the boat. If the smell in your boat is a strong chemical kind of smell, that's probably it. If that's it I don't have a solution. My boat is 22 years old and the smell is as strong as if it were made yesterday. I have noticed that the more I use the locker space the less it bothers me. Maybe it's airing out or maybe I just getting use to it. I know the smell is polyester resin, because I once made the mistake of building a boat with that awful stuff. If you think that's the case get some polyester resin or a product containing it (like Bondo) at Home Depot. Open the can in the parking lot and you'll know right away if it's a match. It's like once you smell rancid oil, you know it for life. Then close the can and return it while your still there. Rick M15 #337 Bluebird (almost ready for the North Channel)

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Honda 5 hp
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 28 May '07

28 May '07

I have a Honda 5 hp on my 17 and yesterday she started up on the first pull and ran real nice for about 10 minutes then she lost power and died. I realized she was not getting fuel and I had to continually pump the bulb to get her gas. The vent cap was open and we had fresh fuel. Every year the engine is maintained by the Honda dealer and she had new fuel filter, they cleaned the carb and do whatever is needed to insure a smooth running engine. I spent about $250 this past winter to update some parts, new plug, winterizing etc. I then noticed the throttle would not move past the start position. I could get it to the start position and move her back down to the slow position but I could not get her to throttle up. Any ideas on why she would not suck fuel and what could be preventing the throttle for moving? Thanks for your assistance Gary Valetti M 17 Bellerin ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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M-15 stainless centerboard
by jim sadler 28 May '07

28 May '07

As anyone ever used a solid stainless steel plate for center board? Since I need to replace it I am thinking of plasma cutting a solid plate. I would try to match the weight and center of gravity of original board. Should it be heavier ? Captain James Sailing Vessel Pelican

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M 17 first sail
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 28 May '07

28 May '07

M Boaters, Had "Bellerin" out today for the first time this year and we had a great day on the water. In about 13 Kts of wind we went sailing by a Hunter 28 and caught up to a Hunter 32 (both had reefed mainsails), we were flying a full main and a 110. Anyway as we are sailing close to the H32 the skipper yells over "Is that a Montgomery 17? We acknowledge him and then he yells over Lyle Hess would be proud. Absolutely the nicest compliment I ever had on this boat. We were moving along very nicely and in a nice groove(thanks to Captain Greg) who was at the helm.Both of us agreed he wasn't complimenting the sailors but was taken with the work of Lyle Hess. These boats, the 15, 17 and 23 are a thing of beauty, tough as nails and boy do they sail. I just want to give kudos to Jerry for building me a fantastic little ship, Bob for all the continued support and for keeping the M Boats alive so young knowledgeable sailors have an opportunity to enjoy Lyle's work and to Lyle himself, without whom it could not have been. In addition to having the best small boats on the water I believe as a group we have some of the most knowledgeable and skilled sailors out there. Hoping everyone enjoys the sailing season. Thanks Gary Valetti M 17 Bellerin ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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