April 2007 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

In Total Agreement
by Peter Deffenbacher 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

I am Bless with a Girl Friend of 12 years Her Aunt died at sea some time ago and she was nervous about being on the water. She helped me with ordering my M15 from Bob. She was there every step of the way. When the new boat arrived we were both excited. But the test was getting her (Boat) in the water. We did this together. We sailed in protected Bays and she loved it! Now she wants to go to bigger waters i.e. Columbia River Portland Oregon. What's a guy got to do? She feels really safe in the M15 and she is getting use to the heeling (tippy boats). My Advise: 1. Never yell orders 2. Let everyone have time at the helm 3. Pay attention but don't yell! Thanks, Peter D M15 618 Like some of the other guys I have been blessed with a wife who enjoys sailing with me. That is not to say that if I fell off the earth tomorrow she would ever go sailing again and have Dauntless sold to the highest bidder by that afternoon!..but she does enjoy doing it together. Does she get a little nervous when the going gets rough? Yeah, she does, but as long as she seems to think that I have it under control she's cool with it. There are some things she just doesn't want to do. For instance, she'll take the helm all day long out in open water...put her at the entrance to a marina or in close company of other boats and she wants to get rid of the tiller like it's a hot potato. No big deal. I try not to ask her to do anything she's uncomfortable with. I have found that this approach, where she only does what she's comfortable with, has allowed her to gradually accept more and more of the sailing responsibility over the years we have sailed together, but totally at her own pace. That keeps it fun for her. My only observation/advice would be this. Don't yell. Sounds funny I know but I can't believe how many guys who would never think of yelling at their wife ashore, start barking out orders when they feel their own stress levels rising. I think that most don't even know that they are doing it and certainly don't mean any ill will by it. It just happens and it doesn't seem to get a very good reception from the spouse involved. A couple of outbursts per trip finds most guys with a wife who despises that freakin sailboat in the yard as it only represents an afternoon of ridicule and embarrassment for them. At that point your sailing career as a happy couple will probably be over. Keep it low key (I know it's hard sometimes..for me too!) She'll enjoy it more, feel like a worthwhile asset to the crew, get a sense of accomplishment and who knows before you know it....maybe she'll take the helm............................maybe! :-) Oh yes don't forget.....the "don't yell" thing includes when she's struggling with the trailer on the ramp. We've found that a set of FRS radios, one in the boat and one in the truck, allows very quiet "coaching" to be sent from the boat cockpit to the truck cab without any yelling or crazy gyrations. We've even gotten comments from spectators at the ramp about how smooth our launching process was. Little did they know that we were talking back and forth the entire time, just not yelling "Stop!!!" "Go!" "WHOA!" "LEFT" "Little More!!!" etc.etc. etc. hahaha (Dont get me wrong...we've had our bad days too!) That's my 37cents Have a great trip! Three cheers for all the gals out there that share the sail with us! Sean and Jo M23 "Dauntless" _www.havasumontgomerys.funtigo.com_ (http://www.havasumontgomerys.funtigo.com)

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Baiting the field... slightly OT, but sailing related
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Like some of the other guys I have been blessed with a wife who enjoys sailing with me. That is not to say that if I fell off the earth tomorrow she would ever go sailing again and have Dauntless sold to the highest bidder by that afternoon!..but she does enjoy doing it together. Does she get a little nervous when the going gets rough? Yeah, she does, but as long as she seems to think that I have it under control she's cool with it. There are some things she just doesn't want to do. For instance, she'll take the helm all day long out in open water...put her at the entrance to a marina or in close company of other boats and she wants to get rid of the tiller like it's a hot potato. No big deal. I try not to ask her to do anything she's uncomfortable with. I have found that this approach, where she only does what she's comfortable with, has allowed her to gradually accept more and more of the sailing responsibility over the years we have sailed together, but totally at her own pace. That keeps it fun for her. My only observation/advice would be this. Don't yell. Sounds funny I know but I can't believe how many guys who would never think of yelling at their wife ashore, start barking out orders when they feel their own stress levels rising. I think that most don't even know that they are doing it and certainly don't mean any ill will by it. It just happens and it doesn't seem to get a very good reception from the spouse involved. A couple of outbursts per trip finds most guys with a wife who despises that freakin sailboat in the yard as it only represents an afternoon of ridicule and embarrassment for them. At that point your sailing career as a happy couple will probably be over. Keep it low key (I know it's hard sometimes..for me too!) She'll enjoy it more, feel like a worthwhile asset to the crew, get a sense of accomplishment and who knows before you know it....maybe she'll take the helm............................maybe! :-) Oh yes don't forget.....the "don't yell" thing includes when she's struggling with the trailer on the ramp. We've found that a set of FRS radios, one in the boat and one in the truck, allows very quiet "coaching" to be sent from the boat cockpit to the truck cab without any yelling or crazy gyrations. We've even gotten comments from spectators at the ramp about how smooth our launching process was. Little did they know that we were talking back and forth the entire time, just not yelling "Stop!!!" "Go!" "WHOA!" "LEFT" "Little More!!!" etc.etc. etc. hahaha (Dont get me wrong...we've had our bad days too!) That's my 37cents Have a great trip! Three cheers for all the gals out there that share the sail with us! Sean and Jo M23 "Dauntless" _www.havasumontgomerys.funtigo.com_ (http://www.havasumontgomerys.funtigo.com) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Lake Michigan Get-together
by Ann Keeton 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

I live in Evanston, Il, a few blocks north of the Chicago border. For a number of complicated reasons, I haven't sailed since I bought my boat two years ago. But I am hoping to find some M-15 sailors in the Chicago area, get some advice from them, and get out on the water, sooner or later. (Ann Keeton) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html

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M-15 on Craig's List
by Hughston, Larry 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

OK Christian, I think I see some "Seller's Remorse" (read Monty Lust) in your "...missed it by 4 hours...UGH" response. I think someone made a mistake by selling this Monty for only $1500. Must have been under stress. ---Fair Winds, Larry in Sacramento Hull # 189.

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Re: M_Boats: M15 for sale SF Bay
by Larry E Yake 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Hey, nice color, too! Larry M17, CornDog On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:57:35 -0400 Rick Langer <farreach(a)optonline.net> writes: > Hey Guys, > Check out the nice cheap M15 for sale. > > http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/308308717.html > > Rick > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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Re: Lake Michigan ports
by John R. Butler 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

In Green Bay, outside of Ephraim (where I met my wife of 60 years) is Eagle Island, also known as Horseshoe Island. I had the privilege of living on it as a kid the summer of 1937, the last year the then- owners, the Foldas lived there. The harbor there was known as the best natural harbor and storm refuge on Lake Michigan, and I can recall some of the really big sailing yachts coming in there during storms. Now a State Park, but probably still a nice destination for an overnight anchorage. I wish Rejoyce (#361) and I could join you there. .--.-. | ( ( )__ \ _ / (_, \ ) ,_) | -== (_) ==- -'--`--' /|\ / \ / | \ | ^^ / | \ / | \ ^^ /361| \ / | \ / | \ ^^ / | \ ___/____| \ ______|_ \ ___ _______/ ==== \___\___/ | “MONTGOMERY 15” / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~^~~^=~^~~-=~^~^~=~^~=~~^~= ~^~=~~^=~^~~^~^=~^~-~^~~^~= ^~=~^~=~~^~~=~~=~^~=~~^~~^~^^ John Butler - Sailing again. Praise the Lord!

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M15 for sale in Juneau AK
by Nathan Menefee 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Anybody from AK looking for a M15? Not as cheap as the SF Bay boat, but a good, solid boat. Need to move out of AK, and I hate to part such a great boat. http://anchorage.craigslist.org/boa/309772178.html Nathan

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M15 for sale SF Bay
by Rick Langer 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Hey Guys, Check out the nice cheap M15 for sale. http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/308308717.html Rick

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by jmoore＠kconline.com 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

I'm interested in any Lake Michigan get together. My schedule is sometimes crazy. Currently in Denver. Flew out on Easter Sunday. Hope to get home by the weekend. On 4/9/07 7:44 PM, "EinkaufR43(a)aol.com" <EinkaufR43(a)aol.com> wrote: > John; > Sure, just sail on over! Ha! (old family joke about heading to Milwaukee > after cocktail hour) > Where's the Milwaukee Clipper when you need her? "Immobile in Muskegon" is > the answer. > I heard from another M-boat owner in the UP interested in getting together > too. > 'Course I should learn to sail her first, right? > My email is on that post, if you don't want to bother the Westerners with > this stuff. > Don't know why there shouldn't be a Lake Michigan informal rendezvous. > Ron > M-15 249 (couple of days, weather permitting) > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >

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Re: M_Boats: Tow Vehicle Survey
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

Hi guys: I tow M-15 # 620 Sweet Dream with a 2004 Honda CRV with Auto. I did extend the trailer extension (New Pacific Trailer, had to drill a new hole in the boom) about 2 ft (so I can swing the back door open without hitting the spare tire attached to the winch upright) and found that it helped both in launching and towing. No problems towing at interstate speeds or retreiving. I plan to add a transmission cooler this year. Don in Mobile ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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