February 2007 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Slugs vs Bolt Rope
by Sailfan1 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

Curious if anyone is aware of any opinions about performance compromise, if any, by changing the luff of the mainsail from a bolt rope to slugs? Has anyone done it and were they happier? Ashley M15 # 478 Morgan Hill, CA ----- Original Message ---- From: Fran Lebowitz <franlebowitz(a)hotmail.com> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:18:10 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: My M15-Li'L Nan, Hull #707 Congratulations on your new boat! Quality takes time and the pride of workmanship is obvious. My experience with Bob has been very positive as well. Enjoy your boat~ Fran >From: Harry & Nancy <nanarry(a)shaw.ca> >Reply-To: For and about Montgomery >Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: M_Boats: My M15-Li'L Nan, Hull #707 >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:40:10 -0500 > >Hurrah for Bob Eeg! In my last epistle (Jan.15/07) I expressed serious >doubts about the boat being ready by the end of Jan. I apologize to Bob. >It was ready on time in spite of the need for finding a new bimini >supplier. I'm amazed by the quality of workmanship--nothing slipshod. >Also, Bob spent two hours explaining all the rigging,and answering >questions from a couple of novices with the utmost patience. He even >supported his explanations with detailed drawings to help us remember. All >in all we are extremely happy with our experience. "Li'L Nan" trailed >home beautifully. We left sunny California and 70 degrees for Thunder Bay >and -25. When is spring? Regards, Harry Elmslie. >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagli… _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/

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Re: M_Boats: Re: Geezer
by Sailfan1 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

OMG...!! Has someone actually done that..?!! Fallen from their boat in the parking lot. That must have bloody hurt...! That would put you in the hospital I would think. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Tosh Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 3:13 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Re: Geezer the Geezer's Gaggle on Yahoo clubs states that you have to have fallen from your boat while in the parking lot at least once, and a few other things us poor geeziers do...... Bill m15 - 158 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html

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Re: Geezer
by John R. Butler 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

At 78, I guess I might qualify as a Geezer? Gary O: Your memory doesn't have geezeritis, it has just developed a "twenty twenty memory" like mine. More than 20 minutes, less than 20 years, I can remember it. Do it now! You can’t do it any younger.

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Re: M_Boats: Jerry M question - Mainsail
by Sailfan1 14 Feb '07

14 Feb '07

Thanks Jerry. Ashley ----- Original Message ---- From: jerry <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 3:27:15 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Jerry M question - Mainsail Must be an aftermarket sail. Ssometimes rqcing sails are cut that way if there isn't a rule against it or a measurement penalty. The reason for it is because you can pick up a bit of extra area, also, the foot of the sail has a slight angle of attack and there is less wingtip loss from air dropping down. I wouldn't worry about it if it sets right and doesn't whack you in the head on a gibe! Jerry jerrymontgomery.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sailfan1" <sailfan1(a)yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:49 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Jerry M question - Mainsail Jerry -- Had a question for you regarding the cut of the mainsail in the original design if you don't mind. The foot of the sail is cut "downward" in the direction from the luff to the leach creating a downward angle of the boom from the goose-neck to the aft end. I'm curious if this was a necessary design element and what sailing characteristic it addressed. Thanks, Ashley M15 #478 ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 1:23 PM _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html

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Re: M_Boats: Jerry M question - Mainsail
by Sailfan1 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

Jerry -- Had a question for you regarding the cut of the mainsail in the original design if you don't mind. The foot of the sail is cut "downward" in the direction from the luff to the leach creating a downward angle of the boom from the goose-neck to the aft end. I'm curious if this was a necessary design element and what sailing characteristic it addressed. Thanks, Ashley M15 #478 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail

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(no subject)
by jerry 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

Sean- when you get the TEAM GEEZER T-thirts done, I'll take one in X-large. Jerry jerrymontgomery.org

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re: Stern Pulpit
by Steve R. 12 Feb '07

12 Feb '07

Skip: I posted about this P boat owner with a stern rail mounted traveler some time ago. The original TSBB discussion is now archived at: http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/potterarchives2/index.cgi/read/29025 His website is: http://wwp19.home.comcast.net/ Click on Cockpit Upgrades. Call me crazy, but I think a traveler track mounted on the transom would improve both access to the OB and climbing aboard the swim ladder. After all, you can do only one thing at a time. You could pull the car one way for the motor and the other way for the ladder. What to do about the tiller is another matter. I have a “mid-air” block and cleat for aft sheeting, but when the wind dies the block bounces around in an annoying fashion. I like the improved access to the cabin that aft sheeting gives. My first boat had it so it was a little difficult at first for me to remember to look forward for the main rather than aft with the original design. It all comes down to personal preference. steve, G.I.T. "Geezer In Training" Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY ================================================================ To All M-boaters, In the past, I remember some discussion concerning the M-15 main sheet configuration and the inability to mount a traveler to the stern. If an M-15 was outfitted with a stern pulpit, would it be possible to mount the traveler to the top rail of the stern pulpit? I have an early M-15 which does not have the stern pulpit and was considering adding one. This maybe just one of my crazy ideas, but thought I'd throw it out there and see if it sticks. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Regards, Skip M-15 #201 (still nameless)

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Re: M_Boats: TEAM M-GEEZER- An honor to be earned!
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 11 Feb '07

11 Feb '07

Juan, SEEEELVIR BUUUULETTT BANDOLEERS w/Mini TEQUILA BOTTLES every 10th ROUND............... I am likin' that already! I will get right on the graphics package. Gary O. M-17 #316a tall rig poser wrinkle machine. Team Geezer Racing...........old and in the way. actually stolen from the band of the same name, a darn good one too! Old and in the Way * _Jerry Garcia_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Garcia) - Banjo and vocals * _David Grisman_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Grisman) - Mandolin and vocals * _Peter Rowan_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Rowan) - Guitar and vocals * _Vassar Clements_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vassar_Clements) - Fiddle * _John Kahn_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kahn) - Acoustic bass see the _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_and_in_the_Way_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_and_in_the_Way) check out the band after the great one passed on .............

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Re: M_Boats: Geezer Gossip
by Saltm17＠aol.com 11 Feb '07

11 Feb '07

You can add racing to the list. My M17, "Miss T", is racing in this years winter PHRF series and is currently tied for first. I race her in the Fall and Winter series most years, and enjoy it a lot. Being a slow learner, it took quite a few years of racing/experimenting to get the best out of her, but I had a goal: to beat Doc. Doc is a veteran of many races and even campained a Lightning in the nationals, and is the man you have to beat to get any respect on the course. For the quite a few years he has raced a Catalina 22, so he is a very good benchmark to judge just how fast you are going. Some years ago I wrote an article about the struggle to "Beat Doc". John Edwards M17 # 372 Miss T

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Re: M_Boats: Geezer Gossip
by Saltm17＠aol.com 11 Feb '07

11 Feb '07

Racing: Miss T is

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