January 2007 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Battery Voltage
by Jorge Johnson 20 Jan '07

20 Jan '07

John Exactly what I was looking for. Simple solution. Thanks so much for the Voltage / Percentage information on battery charge. I'll start looking for a good voltmeter to add to the electical panel. Here's another question I've had since looking the boat over- I noticed something that just doesn't look right to me but looks as if it was an original build on my 1999 17'. The compression post in the cabin is centered underneath the mast, comes down to the forward berth and attaches three inches aft of where it seems it should be. If I open up the storage lid, where the battery and portapotti are stored, there is another post from the hull to the underside of the berth. This lower support beam and the compression post don't vertically line up! Are all the 17s built this way?? Guessing it may be off center for one reason or another. I can add pictures if it helps to visualize this........ I'm trying to solve as many projects that come with this boat so I can get as much fun sailing time as possible in the spring / summer instead of working and fixing ! ! Stay warm everybody. George J. Caldwell TX Montgomery 17 #600

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North Channel and Spanish River Marina
by bownez＠juno.com 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

Here is the link to Spanish River Marina: http://www.town.spanish.on.ca/pages/mun_marina.asp Bones

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RE: M_Boats: Lead Keel
by Hughston, Larry 18 Jan '07

18 Jan '07

Christian, any time. Glad to share what little that I know. ---Larry (in dry and cold Sacramento.) -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov@mailman.xmiss ion.com] On Behalf Of m15(a)frontiernet.net Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:21 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: M_Boats: Lead Keel Larry,Randy and Ashley Thank you for your quick response! I'm sure there are plenty of great M15's that have the metal keels with no issues as most M15's I imagine are on their trailers more than in the water. but... If I can have one with Lead why not. (Thanks Larry for the earlier information). This is a great group of people on this board. Like minds... Like Monty's! Have a good rest of the week! Christian Quoting RandyG <RandyG(a)cite.nic.edu>: > Christian, > > Best I understand, it was in 1988 that all Monty's began being built > using lead ballast in the keel. I believe it was early 1988 for the > M15 and mid-1988 for the M17. The M15 and newer M17 centerboards are > also lead ballasted. The M17's started using the same centerboard as > the M15's in early 1988. With the M15 I believe the centerboards > became lead ballasted before the keel, but not sure how much before. > > Our M17 was built during this transition. She was built in Jan. of > 1988 and has the newer lead centerboard, but the older punching > ballast > > Someone please correct me if I am wrong. > Randy G. > M17 #410 > > > > From: m15(a)frontiernet.net > Sent: Wed 1/17/2007 1:26 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats; Jorge Johnson > Cc: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Lead Keel > > > Quick Question, > > What year did the M15's go to a "LEAD" keel? > > Thanks > Christian > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Lead Keel
by Sailfan1 17 Jan '07

17 Jan '07

Christian -- Mine is a 91 and has lead. I even exposed some in the bilge to confirm as I wasn't going to rely on the magnet test. Jerry Montgomery had sent me an email some time ago now also confirming that his last production boats had by that been switched over to lead. He could not recall what year only that it was a last few he built before closing. Hope that helps. Ashley M15 #478 Morgan Hill, CA ----- Original Message ---- From: "m15(a)frontiernet.net" <m15(a)frontiernet.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>; Jorge Johnson <jorge1(a)cabnet.net> Cc: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:26:44 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Lead Keel Quick Question, What year did the M15's go to a "LEAD" keel? Thanks Christian _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265

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RE: M_Boats: Lead Keel
by Hughston, Larry 17 Jan '07

17 Jan '07

Christian, I do not know but Bob Eeg who is the current builder would know. Bet you're looking for lead, aren't you? If you find one that has a lead shoal keel, BUY IT ! My Monty was made by Jerry Montgomery, he would know too. I think he lives around here in the Sacramento Valley. Good Luck, and let me know what you find out. ---Larry (still dry) -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov@mailman.xmiss ion.com] On Behalf Of m15(a)frontiernet.net Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:27 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats; Jorge Johnson Cc: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Lead Keel Quick Question, What year did the M15's go to a "LEAD" keel? Thanks Christian _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: My new M15
by Bob Eeg 17 Jan '07

17 Jan '07

Hi Joe..! Give me a call tomorrow; (949) 489-8227 I will be at the boatshop on Friday as well. In the morning. But call me. Fair winds Bob -----Original Message----- >From: jmoore(a)kconline.com >Sent: Jan 16, 2007 8:12 PM >To: Holly <bobeeg(a)earthlink.net>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: M_Boats: My new M15 > >Hey Bob!' I'm in Ontario for some meetings at our plant here and hope to >get a chance to stop by before leaving...maybe Friday morning. > >joe moore >M15 "Midnight Passage" > >On Tue, January 16, 2007 12:06 pm, Holly wrote: >> No, we are on time. Your M_15 will be finished on the 24th. Your deck is >> finished on the floor; the hull is in the mold because the trailer has >> not been delivered yet. We expect the trailer to be delivered today (with >> 2 others from Pacific) The interior is finished. Once we get the trailer >> we will deck the boat and install the teak trim. The mast and boom are >> finished; the sails will be picked up in a few days. It only takes a few >> days to finish up from this point. >> >> It is true the Bimini maker is no longer making Bimini's for anyone. You >> have also added some additional options that add several days to the >> completion time. So we are not behind schedule. The boat will be ready >> when you arrive from Texas at the time you requested at the end of the >> month. >> >> Please don't jump to conclusions without asking questions. Sure the >> Bimini supplier is gone; that is beyond our control. Too bad, but that >> has nothing to do with finishing up your boat. >> >> We are not behind schedule. >> >> >> See you at the agreed time. Your boat will be perfect, as all of them >> are. Bring money. >> >> Fair winds >> Bob >> www.montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Harry & Nancy <nanarry(a)shaw.ca> >>> Sent: Jan 16, 2007 7:51 AM >>> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> Subject: M_Boats: My new M15 >>> >>> >>> Permit me to provide an update on our M15. You will recall that we're >>> the couple from Thunder Bay on the North shore of L. Superior. Contract >>> was signed Oct.13/06 with approx. completion Jan.15/07 and pickup by us >>> Jan.31/07. I called Bob yesterday(Jan.15) :a) Hull and deck still in >>> mold ,and b)Bimini not available from normal supplier; Bob will have to >>> find a new supplier!!! So, we're way behind schedule. Will Bob pay >>> meals and motel for us while we wait?? I'll keep you posted. Best >>> wishes for 2007 from your Canuck friends(sorry for the COLD we're >>> sending you). Nancy & Harry >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >>> >> >> >> Boat Builder >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> > > Boat Builder

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Re: M17 battery
by John Butler 17 Jan '07

17 Jan '07

Jorge, I have had batteries in my sailboats for years, and I always used a solar charger to keep them topped off between short sails, depending upon a charger for extended use replenishment. To know your battery state, buy Radio Shack's cheapest digital voltmeter that reads DC Volts to the hundredths, then use this chart I made up which gives you a fairly accurate idea of the percentage of charge remaining. Since lead acid batteries have a cell voltage of 2.10 volts at full charge, you'll note that a fully charged 12 volt battery (six cells) has 12.6 volts. If your solar charger ever charges over 14.66 volts, get a regulator for it, or you will damage it by overcharging. TWELVE VOLT BATTERY VOLTAGES & PERCENTS 14.66 - MAX 12.60 - 100 12.50 - 90 12.40 - 80 12.33 - 70 12.27 - 60 12.17 - 50 12.07 - 40 11.97 - 30 11.87 - 20 11.50 - 10 10.50 - 0% I hope this helps you out, perhaps others, too. John Butler theoldcat(a)cox.net M15 "Rejoyce"

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Re: M_Boats: My new M15
by jmoore＠kconline.com 17 Jan '07

17 Jan '07

Hey Bob!' I'm in Ontario for some meetings at our plant here and hope to get a chance to stop by before leaving...maybe Friday morning. joe moore M15 "Midnight Passage" On Tue, January 16, 2007 12:06 pm, Holly wrote: > No, we are on time. Your M_15 will be finished on the 24th. Your deck is > finished on the floor; the hull is in the mold because the trailer has > not been delivered yet. We expect the trailer to be delivered today (with > 2 others from Pacific) The interior is finished. Once we get the trailer > we will deck the boat and install the teak trim. The mast and boom are > finished; the sails will be picked up in a few days. It only takes a few > days to finish up from this point. > > It is true the Bimini maker is no longer making Bimini's for anyone. You > have also added some additional options that add several days to the > completion time. So we are not behind schedule. The boat will be ready > when you arrive from Texas at the time you requested at the end of the > month. > > Please don't jump to conclusions without asking questions. Sure the > Bimini supplier is gone; that is beyond our control. Too bad, but that > has nothing to do with finishing up your boat. > > We are not behind schedule. > > > See you at the agreed time. Your boat will be perfect, as all of them > are. Bring money. > > Fair winds > Bob > www.montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227 > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Harry & Nancy <nanarry(a)shaw.ca> >> Sent: Jan 16, 2007 7:51 AM >> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Subject: M_Boats: My new M15 >> >> >> Permit me to provide an update on our M15. You will recall that we're >> the couple from Thunder Bay on the North shore of L. Superior. Contract >> was signed Oct.13/06 with approx. completion Jan.15/07 and pickup by us >> Jan.31/07. I called Bob yesterday(Jan.15) :a) Hull and deck still in >> mold ,and b)Bimini not available from normal supplier; Bob will have to >> find a new supplier!!! So, we're way behind schedule. Will Bob pay >> meals and motel for us while we wait?? I'll keep you posted. Best >> wishes for 2007 from your Canuck friends(sorry for the COLD we're >> sending you). Nancy & Harry >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> > > > Boat Builder > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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Strictly Sail Chicago
by bownez＠juno.com 17 Jan '07

17 Jan '07

Hello Listers, I'm headed to the windy city on Friday, Feb 2nd to attend the boat show at Navy Pier. Any other M-boaters in the midwest plan to make an appearance? There is a seminar at 4:30pm Saturday about cruising in the North Channel of Lake Huron which I will take in to gather further info for the June trip. Got charts of the North Channel area in the mail this last week, and the area looks delightful.... I love the anticipation before a sailing adventure. Later, Bones

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Re: M_Boats: boat crazy
by bownez＠juno.com 17 Jan '07

17 Jan '07

I believe the proper response to "why do you need ANOTHER boat" is: "Because it pleases me". Works for motorcycles as well. Bones

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