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RE: M_Boats: harbor guides
by Tom Smith 08 May '06

08 May '06

Not to mention something secure to lean on while forward changing sails, etc. t /)) Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle M17/496 & M17/064 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tsmith=nextit.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tsmith=nextit.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of htmills(a)bright.net Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 12:07 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: RE: M_Boats: harbor guides Fran, That would be one of the more straightforward projects, I would think. I would position the pulpit on deck ( a helper to keep it in place might be a good thing ), sight it from different angles to make sure it looked like it was on straight, mark the holes on the deck, drill them, do the seal-with-epoxy routine, and then bolt it down with caulk, using at least fender washers if not a bona fide backing plate. What would really be great is if the pulpit came with loose backing plates (extra flanges like on the bottom of the pulpit). After considering removing the pulpit on BuscaBrisas, I started noticing how often it really was used. Here are a few ways I find myself using it: 1. Mast support while trailering. 2. Place to hook a halyard when it isn't actually hooked to the head of a sail. 3. Handle for moving the boat around at the dock. Tod M17 #408 BuscaBrisas -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com ] On Behalf Of Fran Lebowitz Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 1:53 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: harbor guides Hi , How doable is it to install a bow pulpit on an older M15 that never had one? What disadvantages are there to not having one on the boat? Fran _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Montgomery 23
by Bill Lamica 08 May '06

08 May '06

The Photo Site now has over half of the M23's produced, thanks to the latest addition: "Raven" owned by Rick Agrella. Also, you'll notice a major structural change with the site which allows quicker page loading and hopefully better acceptance by all of the various browsers. Thanks to David Wood for recommending use of Verdana as the font, which is very readable and to Ric Sanderico who was kind enough to keep checking my progress. As you will see, this last change was time consuming. However, I believe the end justifies the means. With that being said if I had my new M15, I'd be out sailing rather than here at the desk... Bill What's New Page http://www.msogphotosite.com/WhasNew.html

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Where's Tomales bay?
by David W. Wood 08 May '06

08 May '06

D'oh! I meant to type "contiguous" U.S., not "continental." Alaska is, of course, part of the continental U.S., and having ridden my motorcycle up there, I can tell you that it's a hell of a lot farther from the mid-Atlantic states than California is. David =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David W. Wood -=- dwood(a)dwoodworks.com 1981 M15 -=- Hull #163

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Where's Tomales bay?
by David W. Wood 08 May '06

08 May '06

> OK, I'm apparently the only bonehead who's never heard of Tomales > bay, but > you've got me intrigued... what state is it in? (I'm betting mid- > Atlantic) > > Best > BG Well, you'd lose that bet, Brian. Tomales Bay is about as far as you can get from the mid-Atlantic states and still be in the continental U.S. It's about 30 miles NW of San Francisco, and is a long, narrow bay formed by the San Andreas fault as it heads out into the Pacific. So now you know. David =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David W. Wood -=- dwood(a)dwoodworks.com 1981 M15 -=- Hull #163

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Where's Tomales bay?
by Brian Gilbert 08 May '06

08 May '06

OK, I'm apparently the only bonehead who's never heard of Tomales bay, but you've got me intrigued... what state is it in? (I'm betting mid-Atlantic) Best BG -- Brian Gilbert Marine Media M17 "Tiny Dancer" (ex "Stargazer") (423)876-9990 3404 Hartford Drive Chattanooga, TN 37415 www.sailingsmall.com on 5/7/06 9:02 PM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com at montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > I have been interested in sailing Tomales Bay with my 17. My >>> experiences with her so far have been limited to inland lakes and >>> the Delta. Anybody have experience at Tomales? Looks like tides may >>> be an issue. Anything one should be aware of? I am an average sailor. >>> >>> Jeff

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Re: M_Boats: California Mariner?
by Les Clute 08 May '06

08 May '06

Bobbie - That's a West Wight Potter 14, made by HMS Marine from the mid-60's to around the mid-70's. I had one of the earlier ones, #267, which, like the one on Craig's list, was made with a gunter rig, with wooden spars and a mast that went through the cabin top to bottom of the boat. I converted mine to a marconi rig with the mast stepped on the cabin top, and it looks like this one has been similarly converted. Les Clute

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Re: M15 Bow Pulpit
by chbenneck＠juno.com 08 May '06

08 May '06

Hi Fran, A few more thoughts: 1. I bought my bow pulpit from Bob Eeg, and it came complete with backing plates - but without bolts and nuts, which I obtained at my local hardware store that has a great selection of stainless bolts. 2. Check the plates of the bow pulpit and the backing plates to make certain that all the holes are 120 degrees apart, or else you wind up with an assembly requiring a back up plate that exactly matches the holes in the feet of the base. I didn't check when I drilled my holes, and then had to do a bit of filing in the deck holes to get the bolts to fit properly and mate with the backing plates. Connie

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Sailing Tomales Bay
by Bill Day 08 May '06

08 May '06

Jeff, I think you will enjoy sailing Tomales Bay. I have taken my M15 there many times without problems. We used to load our tent and camping gear and sail across the bay and camp out on the beach. The only concern you will have is shallow launch ramps. All the public launch ramps have a very shallow angle of entry, which required backing in so far that my rear vehicle wheels were under water. I didn't have a tongue extention, which would have helped, so we had to back up very far into the water to get the boat to float off of the trailer. The ramps weren't very long either, so it was very difficult to launch at low tide. If you time your launch and recovery so that the tide isn't very low, you shouldn't have any trouble with an M17. There are no high land masses around the bay, so winds were relatively unimpeded by obstructions. That means that winds are usually very steady, whether strong or weak. The bay is long, and is oriented so that you can sail from end to end without tacking. All in all, a very good sailing experience. The only warning I would give is to avoid swimming there, since the water is very cold, and is also prime habitat for great white sharks. They tend to be large enough that a swimmer is a nice sized, and desirable snack...especially, if you look even remotely like a seal. Swimming with a friend doesn't decrease your odds of being eaten either, since great whites often go back for seconds. Bill I have been interested in sailing Tomales Bay with my 17. My experiences with her so far have been limited to inland lakes and the Delta. Anybody have experience at Tomales? Looks like tides may be an issue. Anything one should be aware of? I am an average sailor. Jeff

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California Mariner?
by Bobbie Mayer 07 May '06

07 May '06

Ran across this on Craigslist. Has anyone ever heard of it? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/156170549.html Not buying, just curious! Bobbie

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Ghost Ship?
by Steve R. 07 May '06

07 May '06

Another unusual boats from Craig's List, has anyone heard of this one? ****************************************** Ghost Ship . Motor Sailer I ain't afraid of no ghost. - $8500 (pittsburg / antioch) The owner of this boat was murdered in close proxcimity to his boat, this boat. I don't want to give the boats name in this listing. Don't even call if you fear the presence of the sometimes present, former captain. Their doesn't seem to be anything to be afraid, he just hangs out sometimes and will sometimes throw the bucket. We have sold this boat twice and taken it back twice. We will not take it back again. Please don't waste our time if your afraid of things that go bump in the night. The boat is ferro cement. Has a Perkins diesel. Has a starter problem, working on it. No sails. http://www.craigslist.org/eby/boa/155754107.html **************************************************** Wow - talk about truth in advertising! steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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