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Re: M_Boats: M17 Transom Shape
by bownez＠juno.com 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

Hi Glen, I'm in Minnesota and own an M17 vintage 1976 hull #92. I do have the cut out transom and have run an outboard in the cutout and on a Fulton motor mount that is presently installed. I am now using a Yamaha 4hp 4 stroke. I have never had water coming over the transom. I have tried using a variety of motors on the M17 from a 10hp Honda 4 stroke to a vintage Merc 3hp 2 stroke (which had its original canvas carrying case), both in the cutout and on the bracket. I do like the outboard motor bracket because you can get the motor out of the water completely and with the helper springs, it is an effortless task. Good luck on an M17 search. They come and go. There was an M17 in the Mpls paper classifieds two weeks ago for sale. M17, motor and trailer for $4800 (American). I'm sure it sold immediately. Later, Bones

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Re: M_Boats: M17 Transom Shape
by ddaystrom＠comcast.net 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

Hello Glen, I have a 1980 M17 with the cut out transom. I believe starting with the 1981 models some things were improved. You may want to read about the history of the M17 at the following link: http://msog.org/models/m17/m17_history.cfm al williams > Hello, I have just joined this discussion group and this is my first post. I > live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada and sail on Lake Winnipeg which is the worlds > 10th largest freshwater lake and is 264 miles long and 20-30 miles wide. My > current boat, a 12Ft Tumbleweed, keeps me pretty close to home port so I am > loking for a larger boat to extend my horizons. After much research I have > concluded that an M17 fits my requirements. > I have found several for sale in Minnesota and Wisconsen that are from the late > 70s. I have noticed that some of the boats have the outboard mounted directly on > the transom and others require a motor mount. Does anyone know if the transom > mount with its cutout was specific to a particular year of manufacture. Also has > anyone had experience with this model. I was wondering how succeptable this > style is to taking on water over the stern. > Thanks for your replies. > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Sailing
by chbenneck＠juno.com 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

Hi Bo, In the past I've sailed the East coast from Cape May, NJ to Boston, MA.; Cape Cod, Nantucket, Martha's Vineyard, Buzzard's Bay, Narragansett Bay, and Block Island being the normal cruising areas. Home port was Mystic, CT and winter storage was up the Connecticut River at Cobalt, CT, near Middletown. With ever increasing boat density in all our old sailing areas, and no longer any peace and quiet, we down sized to a trailerable, and now go where it is quiet and peaceful. With the trailerables, (various) I've sailed the Florida Keys, a part of Chesapeake Bay, Moosehead Lake in ME, several times at Lake Champlain, and for afternoon sails at the spur of the moment, I have the M15 at Lake Pocotapaug, in East Hampton, CT, about a 20 minute drive from our house. Pocotapaug is full of outboards towing water skiers on weekends, plus of course PWCs, but from Monday to Friday evening it is calm and peaceful and an enjoyable mini-voyaging sailing spot. If I can help your planning with any (not current) information on these areas, please ask. Connie M15 #400 LEPPO

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Sailing
by bo Swartwout 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

Connie, I am new to the New England area (just up the road from you in Cape Cod) and would like to know where you sail in Connecticut? Most of my sailing experience has been on the west coast ( California and Baja). I bought an M15 last fall and am looking forward to the upcomming sailing season. I have enjoyed your many posts on the Montgomery site. Thanks, Bo Swartwout

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New England sailing
by bo Swartwout 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

Thanks for the info Connie, I am also basically looking for quiet, out of the way places to sail. I saw Lake Champlain for the first time last summer. I did not have my boat then. I was instantly intrigued with the area. If you have any info, ie: launch ramps, overnight anchorages,etc., I would be mosr grateful to hear about it. Thanks again, Bo

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Sailing
by Larry E Yake 24 Apr '05

24 Apr '05

After months of working on the boat and dreaming about sailing, the first sail of the year finally happened yesterday. Tom Smith, Randy Graves, and I met at Pend Oreille Lake for a one-day "shakedown cruise". Randy brought the M17 he's been busy restoring getting ready for the San Juan trip (to see if it actually floats and do some on-the-water work), Tom volunteered to crew for him (translation: "work on boat") and my wife and I sailed Tullamore with the main objective of testing the Ida Sailor kick-up rudder. Randy's done a great job refinishing his boat. If you've seen his before and after pictures on his web site, it's even more dramatic in person. It was a great day. Temperatures were in the 60's or 70's and the wind was strong and steady on the large bay we were sailing in. We started out with a reef in the main and the furling headsail reefed to 90%. There's something about that first sail of the year that just gets me grinning from ear to ear. The lake was choppy, the wind was full of just enough mischief to keep you on your toes, and the boat was alive with excitement. The new rudder performed excellently. Very nice solid feel, well balanced, and no flex or sloppiness in the pivot. Pinching up into the wind she would head up at least as high as my old rudder (which was a high performance balanced model), and overcanvassed on a broad reach with a lot of heel the weatherhelm remained very manageable. This is a good rudder and looks like a very good option for those who don't want to worry about their transom being ripped off by a hard grounding. After playing around on the bay for a couple hours, we headed back to the dock to see how Randy and Tom were coming on their projects. An old weak shroud which broke upon raising the mast and a stuck centerboard were going to keep Randys boat tied up that day, so we all climbed aboard Tullamore and spent the afternoon trading places at the helm, testing the rudder, and just having a good time. My wife choose to stay below out of the way, but had the distinct honor of enjoying the view and banter of 3 Monty sailors putting a 17 through her paces. "There's just something about a Montgomery man...." <grin> Thunderstorms rolling in chased us off the lake late in the afternoon and we managed to get loaded and on the road just as the downpours hit. Larry

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Re: M_Boats: Sailing
by chbenneck＠juno.com 24 Apr '05

24 Apr '05

Hi Larry, Great report. Makes me envious! However, spring really does seem to be here now in Connecticut, so in the not too distant future I'll be afloat again too. grin, .............grin, .............! Connie

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M-15 for sale
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 24 Apr '05

24 Apr '05

M-15... 2003 located in South Pasedena, CA . With Honda 2hp & trailer. $8500.00 Go to Trailersailer.com

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Re: FW: M_Boats: Rudder pins...
by bownez＠juno.com 24 Apr '05

24 Apr '05

Thank you Gary, I'll check it out. Enjoy your summer! Bones

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Re: FW: M_Boats: Rudder pins...
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 23 Apr '05

23 Apr '05

Bones, Spoke with the folks at McMasters-Carr again and they do not offer any discount options. I ordered a 6 foot piece and will cut it to size. I think your best option is to order direct. Go to page 3446 ( from memory, hope it right page) of there catalog and you will find the needed info Gary

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