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Non Skid Pattern
by John L. Gonzalez 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

Anybody have any great ideas on how to match the nonskid pattern on the deck of my M-15? I've filled some unused screw holes with epoxy, and now need to pretty them up with gelcoat. Sincerely, John Bella, M-15 (628)

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Re: M_Boats: Centerboard treatment
by Harvey G Wilson 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

Hi Tom... Hope it helps. I live in Cumming, Ga., on Lake Lanier (well, 100 yards from the lake<GG>) I sailed Stargazer, a 1979 model M-17, for 9 years....mostly on Lanier, but trailered her to a friend's lake in Tennessee a few times. Regrettably, I sold her this summer...she's now known as Tiny Dancer. Harvey/ Ga

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I mispoke
by Brian Gilbert 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

Oooh, folks, found a major mistake while re-reading my last post... I touched the bar to the side of the CENTERBOARD, NOT THE KEEL. I have a cast-iron centerboard too... such rough treatment would badly damage a glass centerboard. Best BG -- Brian Gilbert Marine Media Author, Fix It and Sail (423)876-9990 3404 Hartford Drive Chattanooga, TN 37415 www.sailingsmall.com on 11/2/05 8:39 PM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com at montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > I > touched one end to the side of the keel, and whacked the other end with a > hammer while standing beside the boat (it's too much of a pain to whack t

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Centerboard work- removal
by Brian Gilbert 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

Hi Tom: My centerboard was in a somewhat similar condition, though possibly not quite as bad (5yrs in freshwater). CB was stuck tight. While you can free it up without removing it, unless you take it out of the boat and do a proper restoration it'll just rust up again and get stuck. Unfortunately, you'll have to clear the slot before you can do anything. This means either lifting the boat itself up, or sliding the boat back on the trailer. I did the sliding thing, but be sure the roller on the bottom of the trailer is in good shape... you need it's support. On my boat, there was enough of the keel showing that I could whack it with a bar. I had a piece of 3/4" round steel that was about five feet long. I touched one end to the side of the keel, and whacked the other end with a hammer while standing beside the boat (it's too much of a pain to whack the keel while lying under the boat.) when I did this, it loosened up LOTS of rust flakes, which fell out of the slot. After a while, and after hammering both sides, the keel started to drop slightly (you DID remember to free up the pennant on the winch, didn't you?) Eventually it dropped all the way. After I removed the stop pin and pivot bolt, and dug a shallow hole in the ground (I only jacked the trailer up about a foot) I got the keel out. You can do this job yourself, just take it slow and be careful. Hope this helps BG -- Brian Gilbert Marine Media Author, Fix It and Sail (423)876-9990 3404 Hartford Drive Chattanooga, TN 37415 www.sailingsmall.com on 11/2/05 2:28 PM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com at montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > Any suggestions would be appreciated, especially some way to free it without > removing it completely from the keel cavity.

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RE: M_Boats: Centerboard treatment
by Tom Smith 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Sure, you can sail any Montgomery boat with the cb retracted. Matter of fact, you can probably gain a tiny bit of speed downwind that way. /)) Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle M15/345--Chukar M17/496--Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tsmith=nextit.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tsmith=nextit.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of thauser(a)att.net Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:58 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard treatment Doug - thanks for the info. I was planning on doing that as a last resort. The lakes have mud beaches, but what the heck. Do you know how much the keel weighs? Can the boat be sailed without it in the down position? Thanks again. Tom _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: Centerboard treatment
by Morris, Giles 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

> If you loose the not in the pendant you can lower it even lower But be careful! If it comes down too far the board will be levering itself down in such a way as to break the end of the board with the hole in it (awkward to explain, but easily seen when you have the thing out). That's why I needed a new board. I replaced the board with the boat lying on its side in the driveway. Didn't mean to do it that way, but everything worked out all right. You can sail without a board, but the windward performance suffers a great deal and the cockpit tends to fill up with water forced up through the pennant hole. Giles Morris

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Re: M_Boats: Centerboard treatment
by thauser＠att.net 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Doug - thanks for the info. I was planning on doing that as a last resort. The lakes have mud beaches, but what the heck. Do you know how much the keel weighs? Can the boat be sailed without it in the down position? Thanks again. Tom

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Re: M_Boats: Centerboard treatment
by thauser＠att.net 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Good afternoon. Thanks for the tips. I had tried to run a small cable up and over the top but it got hung up. I will try a saw blade. I don't know for sure its crud up there or barnicles, etc. We hope to free it without having to haul to a boat repair shop and pay to use the hoist. Where to you sail? What type of boat? Tom

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Re: M_Boats: Centerboard treatment
by Harvey G Wilson 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Hi Tom... One of the tricks someone used was to run a hacksaw blade or the conventional saw blade into the slot, along side of the centerboard. The theory was to loosed and crud that was wedged between the CB and trunk. the archives should have lots of info if you can access it. Regards, Harvey/ Ga

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Re: M_Boats: Centerboard treatment
by thauser＠att.net 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Good morning, Bill: Thanks for the info. I wish I could leave it in the water for a few days, however, our first big snow is due tonight. Might not be any more sailing until spring thaw next May. I spent 20+ years in SF. Belonged to a sailing club in Oakland and had access to 24 - 27 boats for the Bay. Too mean for me. I didn't realize how treacherous it can get. Anyway, have many large reservoirs plus the great salt lake to choose from. Where do you sail? Any good maintenance tips? I have never had a fiberglass boat. My last was a 16' Swampscott Sailing dory, a traditional wooden boat. The M-15 has many spider cracks on the deck, seat corners, lower deck, etc. Any product that will seal these. They are very minor cracks. Thanks for any ideas and tips. Tom

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