May 2003 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

RE: M_Boats: Tiller
by Smith, Tom 29 May '03

29 May '03

I use a method similar to what Mark describes below. I've mounted a small jam cleat on the bottom of my tiller (jam side forward, about a foot back from the business end of the tiller). I fashioned a couple of bungee loops about a foot in diameter and connect them with a couple feet of line sized to work with the jam cleat. The bungee loops go over the M15's stern cleats and the line stretched between them is pulled forward and captured by the jam cleat. It's simple to build (no moving parts unless you count bungee cord), cheap (a jam cleat will cost you 10 bucks and bungee and line another couple more) and quickly and easily adjustable. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar -----Original Message----- From: Mark Escovedo [mailto:m_escovedo@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:01 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller Hello Jesse You might try Bungee chord for a tiller tamer. I've used this method on my boat. Different chord diameters effect the stiffness. I have a M17 flushdeck so attachment is no problem on the perforated toerail. As for the M15 I'm not familiar with the cockpit area so I can't offer any help there. Mark Escovedo M17 Flushdeck "Chunky Dory" ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Tate <mailto:gunsblazing@charter.net> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:06 PM Subject: M_Boats: Tiller I read where several of you had converted to the J 24 tiller for your M 15's. What is the length of the tiller? Also, any suggestions for tiller tamers? Thanks, Jesse M 15 Carolyn J _____ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _____ This message was scanned for viruses.

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re: M17 for sale
by Loyd Myers 29 May '03

29 May '03

Hello all, After spending a bunch of time futzing (sp?) around with the new boat, i'm reminded (by the casual questioning of the Admiral) that "Whippersnap" still sits in our drive way pining away for a new home. Here are the relevant details: 1981 M17 hull #334 "Whippersnap" Equipment List: 1998 Honda 5hp 4-stroke Galvanized trailer - excellent Interprotect 2000 Epoxy bottom (professionally applied 2001) 5 sails: main 155% genoa 109% jib 80% jib spinnaker (yellow) whisker pole, spinnaker pole Adjustable backstay Depth (Fishfinder) (2001 in-hull transducer = no hole in boat bottom) Compass Nav lighting (2001) 2 batteries with switch Porta Potti (2002 -used once) Amber LED interior lighting (2001 -very cool, and very low current ) 16 lb bruce anchor 25' chain, 150' rode custom bottomsider cockpit cushions tillertamer (great for single-handing) electric Bilge pump pictures http://www.nmpe.com/data/myers/M17/side_in_water.jpg http://www.nmpe.com/data/myers/M17/stern_quarter.jpg http://www.nmpe.com/data/myers/M17/bow.jpg price: $6500 soft. Casual inquiries O.K. (don't you get tired of those b----- 'tude classifieds?) send me some direct e-mail as i only get the list in Archive format Loyd

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2 HP Hondas on Sale at Defender
by Doug King 29 May '03

29 May '03

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Electronic Charts
by Werner Pels 27 May '03

27 May '03

Montgomery Listers - Those of you who like to delve into the Web's possibilities, especially where nautical things are involved, may want to play around with the chartmaking potential offered by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). It's a tad complicated - you must first download a suitable "reader" called "SeeMyDENC" from this site: http://www.openecdis.org/freeware/index.html Then you browse and select a chart area from the NOAA site: http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/download.htm There are appropriate warnings about the currentness of the charts, but they look pretty good to me - and each chart selection comes with the relevant Notice To Mariners. Anyway, they're fun to play around with - and they're free. Werner Pels longtime lurker

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Re: M_Boats: M 15 Maiden Voyage
by chbenneck＠juno.com 27 May '03

27 May '03

Hi Jesse, Yep, it's love all right! .........and it only gets better as you get more familiar with your new boat. I presume that you have the original jam cleats on the cabin roof for the jib sheets. The first thing I did was change those out for cam cleats, so that if I want an instant jib sheet release (unexpected gusts) all I have to do is yank up on the jib sheet and it is free to run. With the jam cleats, you have to fight with the force on the sheet - equal and opposite direction - to finally get it released from the jam cleat. ~~~~~~~~~~ I added some small jam cleat to the top of cockpit coaming : P/S. Then I can put a line around the tiller (or a light bungee cord) and cleat it off in the jam cleat. Then I have a cheap effective self steering: good enough to hold a course while I go below and rummage about for a beer; the radio or a new CD for the SONY pancake CD player (2 AA cells). This spring's project will be the addition of a motorcycle battery in the forward compartment, with a fuse panel with cigarette plug somewhere in the cabin. Location still not finalized after seeing another such installation. The purpose is to supply power for my CD player (minimum) and for the GPS, (4 AA cells every few hours), so that I can leave it on all the time and use it as a knot meter, as well as pointing to bikini clad girls lounging on swim floats........... I used the motorcycle battery because it weighs only about 7 lbs, so removal to take it home for a recharge is no big deal. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My tiller extension is also a worthwhile project. It does two things: A) I can sit all the way forward in the cockpit (and get the stern out of the water for better boat speed) B) It raises the tiller height so that it is not down at your knees; i.e., more comfortable seating and tiller holding position. Have fun. Connie

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Re: M_Boats: Seagull
by Harvey Wilson 27 May '03

27 May '03

Hi Jesse... >> You haven't cleaned the bottom of that boat yet??!!!<< Haven't had it pressure cleaned...just went under it with a stiff brush on a curved handle. Just haven't had the time to get it across the lake to the other marina <sigh> Harvey/ Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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Re: M_Boats: Evinrude
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 27 May '03

27 May '03

OMC Corp was Evinrude and Johnson. They were the same motor with different colors and names..identical otherwise.

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Re: M_Boats: M 15 Maiden Voyage
by chbenneck＠juno.com 26 May '03

26 May '03

Hi Jesse, Glad to hear that you had a great first and second sail and enjoyed the boat. Now you know why we all are so passionate about a Montgomery. They sail well; have proper storage space for their size, and are a joy. What more could you want? As for Hondas: They won't run if you don't open the fuel valve. Jesse, it's simple: no fuel no fire! Even after opening the fuel valve fuel won't flow until you let air into the tank by opening up the breather valve on the gas cap. I guess we've all been there - done that. It's all part of learning the idiosyncrasies of your new toy! But the main is, you are off and sailing............... Oh, and remember the CB has to be up when launching and retrieving! So, have fun, and please get the weather pattern to change. We're growing web feet up in Connecticut from days of almost constant rain. Connie

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Re: M_Boats: galley shelf
by Egatempo＠aol.com 26 May '03

26 May '03

In a message dated 5/26/2003 3:55:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, htmills(a)bright.net writes: > please > let me know; I may have accidently deleted your message. > Tod I would appreciate a copy. Snail mail is: George R Iemmolo 68 River Bend Park Lancaster, PA 17602 Thanks George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails.

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Re: M_Boats: Evinrude
by Woodsybill＠aol.com 26 May '03

26 May '03

I have a 1968 3hp Evenrude with two cylinders: It's called the Lighttwin. Still runs great. Bill K. M17 half Monty #55

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