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Re: M_Boats: Outboards Again, Message #8, 5/2/03.
by Larry Yake 03 May '03

03 May '03

...Wendell Spence writes... "The Fulton Model 1710 is perfect..." There just happens to be a nearly new one for sale on the MSOG page. :-) Larry

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M-23
by Roberta Dvorscak 03 May '03

03 May '03

As far as I know hull #1 of the new M23 has been sold and if my finances could handle it they would be building one for me right now (the admiral is pushing for more room)! Mark Dvorscak M17 #400 GRACE

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Re: M_Boats: Trailer-sailing trip
by Steve R 03 May '03

03 May '03

John, I really enjoy your tales in SCA. Sounds like a great adventure. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY --- message from Saltm17(a)aol.com attached:

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Re: M_Boats: Outboards again
by chbenneck＠juno.com 03 May '03

03 May '03

Hi Ran, My M15 #400 was bought with the original fixed motor mount and I got a Honda 2 HP outboard - short shaft - in the deal. The short shaft Honda fits the fixed mount but the problem you have is that on a starboard tack, with the engine tilted out of the water, you still drag the prop through the water. So, last year I change to a lift mount to solve that problem. Never heard of a Briggs & Stratton outboard ,...............and 5 HP is vast overkill for an M15. My 2 HP is only operated at about 1/2 throttle to reach hull speed. What is the B&S weight vs the Honda? ............lighter is better. Connie

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Outboards Again, Message #8, 5/2/03.
by Wendell Spence 03 May '03

03 May '03

Hi Ron Dawson, My M15 is an 81 model and also came with the fixed motor mount. I have modified the fixed motor mount to accommodate a lift-up motor mount as follows: The mounting board on the original fixed motor mount was sawed off, leaving the two fiberglass side pieces still attached to the stern. Then a piece of hardwood, at least 1.75 inches thick is fitted between the original side pieces with bolts and the lift-up motor mount is bolted to the wood. This works extremely well and allows for easy adjustment of the height of the lift-up motor mount. I originally had a 3hp 2-stroke outboard (25 lbs) and found it to be inadequate in high wind situations. Note that a lift-up motor mount for a 25lb motor does not necessarily require any counter-balancing springs to help lift the motor out of the water. I recently moved up to a 5hp Tohatsu 4-stroke (55 lbs) and hope it will perform better. For this heavier motor, and my sore back, the lift-up motor mount really needs counter-balancing springs. The Fulton Model 1710 is perfect for a 55lb motor. Note that the Tohatsu 4,5, and 6hp 4-stroke outboards are identical to the Nissan and Mercury models. A good starting web site for Tohatsu outboards, is http://www.onlineoutboards.com. Wendell Spence M15, #191 Catawampus

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'81 M17 Centerboard
by ron and cathryn goodspeed 01 May '03

01 May '03

Hello Manuel, When we first sailed "hula pie" the cast iron board would not come down either- it took some banging from above with a steel rod against the board just forward of the shackle where the line ties on and inserting a hacksaw blade between the board and trunk to clean out the junk. Did you leave the line around the winch and in the cleat when you squirted in the WD-40? If not, it is possible that the board loosened then fell and broke out the stop pin- this had happened to the previous owner of our boat- and is now hanging from the pivot. Is there a shackle still attached to the line? The board is not real thick at this point and could have broken out. Another possibility is the small "hook" portion on the board that meets the stop pin has broken off and will need to be built up again at a welding shop. In any case a quick dive will tell the tale- brave the cold and check it out. We removed our iron board for sand blasting and refinish this winter and the inside of the trunk was in perfect condition- no swelling, no marine growth, and no cracks at hull/ trunk joint. Hope your board is just hanging there! Ron and Cathryn Goodspeed 1974 M17 #025 "hula pie" Nevada City, CA

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centerboard on 81' M17
by Manuel Stein 01 May '03

01 May '03

I just recently purchased an 81' M17. During my first sail I was unable to lower the centerboard. on returning to the dock and trying to fathom the cause I found that I could not push the line more than 1-2 inches into the hole of the centerboard trunk. I then obtained a rubber mallet and whacked the side of the centerboard trunk several times without success. I then squirted some WD-40 in through the hole in the centerboard trunk and gave up for the day. I returned to the boat several days later to find that the line to the centerbaor was moist and could now be inserted into the centerboard trunk for its entire length. The line could then be pulled out its entire length, stopping, appparently by a knot at its most distant end. There was no resistance on pulling back on the line and the line can be re-inserted to its stopper knot outside the centerboard trunk, being soaked and dripping with water. My deduction is : 1. the line detached from the centerboard 2. the center board is down or dropped off and out of the centerboard trunk My thoughts on ascertaining the status of the centerboard include: 1. careening the boat at the dock with the main halyard and probing the keel with a long pole 2.beaching the boat and, again, doing some sort of probing or inspection of the keel. 3.have two people place a line under the boat and, as if keel-hauling,walk the line line aft-to-fore outlining the bottom of the keel and (hopefully) the centerboard. 4.diving the bottom. The boat is berthed at Folsom Lake and the water is quite cold at this time of year with all the snow-melt and fresh run-off. If anyone out there has had any similar experiences and/or ideas please let me know via e-mail at the above address. Thanks, Manuel Stein

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Vang
by Thomas Howe 01 May '03

01 May '03

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Re: M_Boats: Dry Tortugas trip
by Saltm17＠aol.com 01 May '03

01 May '03

Stan, How have you been? Hope you had a good trip home. I've been running around getting everything ready for the trip - I leave on the 11 or 12 of May. It's taking a lot of time to get all the required paperwork ready for the trip into Mexico, but I'm almost done with that. The trip to the Dry Tortugas was great and I'm writing a story about it for the Small Craft Advisor. I'll send an advance copy along if you want. Also, what is your snail mail address? I thought I had it, but if I do, I can't locate it (a VERY common event lately). Hope you have a lot of good sailing trips this summer. John

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