January 2003 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Self righting
by Sandyal55＠aol.com 15 Jan '03

15 Jan '03

If the hatches are closed and the hatch boards are properly secured, even a Monty will survive a 360 deg rollover. I hope none of you ever test this. Sandy

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Re: M_Boats: Minnesota 17 spotted
by IDCLLC＠aol.com 15 Jan '03

15 Jan '03

I agree with Todd's perception of self righting. I think it should be kept in mind that it is normally assumed the boat is being sailed in the waters it was designed for. If the horizontal surface happens to be 60 degrees to the horizon because it's part of a monster, blue water wave, I don't think it counts for a Montgomery! That said, in the 2+ years I've been keeping up with Montgomery lore, I've never heard of one turtling, or even coming close. They're great boats. Steve Tyree, P-15 #2098 "Amy Ann" In a message dated 1/14/2003 10:09:08 PM Central Standard Time, htmills(a)bright.net writes: > Sorry if that's a re-post. > > I don't know if my understanding is a GASP....Generally Accepted Sailing > Principle....:o) > but I take the term to mean that if a boat is "knocked down" with it's mast > horizontal or > possibly touching the water that it will right itself. The unballasted > dinghies I've sailed > all seemed to want to go on over at that point unless the crew is doing > something like > standing on the centerboard. > > Tod >

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I'll second the thanks!!!
by Douglas Peterson 13 Jan '03

13 Jan '03

Martin and Doug. Excellent article. I'll be doing some of the same work to my M-17, #208 "Proteus" some time in the spring. This will be a valuable resource! I'm a new member to the gruop and a new sailor, this being my first sailboat. I like the level of activity I see in the group. All have been very friendly. Thanks, Doug

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CB slot rebuild - up close & personal!
by Martin Johnson 13 Jan '03

13 Jan '03

Hi everybody! My M-17 Sunflower has been at the spa for a bit of an overhaul. Photos and narration are available at the following link: http://msog.org/how-to/centerboard/cbrepair_johnson.cfm There are detailed photos including the centerboard completely removed, as well as some insight as to what goes on inside that keel/centerboard rig. Click photos for greater detail. Extra thanks to Doug King for providing such a wonderful website. enjoy! Martin Johnson M-17 1976 #218 Sunflower Duluth, MN

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cb slot rebuild
by wayne yeargain 13 Jan '03

13 Jan '03

Congratulations to Martin & Doug Thanks for this article, I have a much better understanding now of the Centerboard slot & cavity. Although I've never had a leak there yet, it could occur (mine is also a '76). Knowledge is power. Wayne '76 M17 "Intrepid"

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inspection ports
by Martin Johnson 13 Jan '03

13 Jan '03

Craig, The little brass inspection ports allow access to the space between the hull and liner, which extends into the keel. Regarding my situation, several gallons of water leaked into the keel before I saw it penetrating through a crack in the liner. Through my new ports I can check for more water accumulating(hopefully none) and vacuum out any water in the fall and add antifreeze to prevent damage from expanding ice in the keel. During daily use these ports will be closed so spray, rainwater, beer, etc. doesn't get below the floor. Martin

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wood oil
by Thomas Wilkinson 10 Jan '03

10 Jan '03

My M17 does not have varnished or painted exterior teak. I have been using teak oil on the wood but am not very happy with the results. The teak oil does not seem to last long and so needs to be applied often. I came across a product called Uncle Billy's Wood Oil based on pine tar. It is sold on the American Rope and Tar web page. Does anyone have any experiance with this product? Tom M17 Obsessus

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Re: M_Boats: Access Hatches, M17
by Michael L Bowden 09 Jan '03

09 Jan '03

Craig, I believe the port to 8" (circular). It was installed when I bought the 17 in '96. Bye-ya Bones ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

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Re: M_Boats: Hoisting the M17
by Larry Yake 08 Jan '03

08 Jan '03

John, I've lifted my M17 by the aluminum toe rails. The newer boats don't have them, of course, but being yours is a '78 I assume it does. I attached to 4 points along each side to distribute the weight and the boat hung that way for a month while I refinished the hull. I did take all the extra weight out though, and checked all the toe rail bolts. Jerry M. says that's the way he moved them in the shop when he built them. I'll admit it was a little nerve wracking when I first hoisted it, but it works. Larry Yake M17, #200 Tullamore On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 03:15:36 +0000 "John Crews" <johncrews(a)hotmail.com> writes: > I would like to hoist my 1978 vintage M17 into the ocean using an > electric > hoist at the end of a public pier in my area. This hoist has only a > hook at > the end of the cable; the boater must provide his own sling and > rigging. I > propose to create a 5-point harness that attaches at the forestay, > shroud, > and twin backstay brackets, having heard that a well-designed > sailboat > should be capable of being lifted by its standing rigging brackets. > Has any > other M17 owner had any experience with hoisting their boat? > > John Crews > M17 "Allegretto" > Port San Luis > People's Republic of California > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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Re: M_Boats: M 23 in Phx?
by Jslubliner＠aol.com 08 Jan '03

08 Jan '03

Craig, yes - Jerry made about 7-8 Flush Deck M17's in the mid 70's. Mine was his personal one. They are way-cool, are extremely good looking and rare. I am presently checking in from San Diego, where we are spending the month of January - with the boat - sailing and having a wonderful time. Take Care, John (Tucson)

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