March 2002 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: new boat
by Mark Pavuk 17 Mar '02

17 Mar '02

Connie, Thanks for your offer of help. I need to change the line for the centerboard. Are there any tricks or things I should know about this? Other than bottom paint, the boat is in good shape and just needs a little cleaning. I'm sure once I get her in the water I will have a million questions, as I have never seen her fully rigged before. Cherri ---------- >From: Conbert H Benneck <chbenneck(a)juno.com> >To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: Re: M_Boats: new boat >Date: Sat, Mar 16, 2002, 4:14 PM > >Hi Cherri > >Congratulations on finally getting your new toy. > >You'll love it once you have had your first sail and see what a lovely >little vessel it really is. > >Love your boat's name: "Cherri's Jubilee"! > >If you have any questions or need answers to "How does this work ....." >just yell. We're all here to get you sailing and enjoying your new boat. > >Happy sailing, > >Connie > >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Stern Ladder Mounting
by Harvey Hochstetter 17 Mar '02

17 Mar '02

Good Morning All, I am considering mounting a stern ladder with a small platform on the stern, opposite side of the tiller from the OB mount. I saw one in the West Marine catalog that has a small platform in conjunction with the ladder. It would give the function of: 1. Boarding ladder, 2. Swim platform, 3. Platform to store a plastic jerry can with fuel for the outboard on that would be outside of the boat. the idea for that would be that any escaping fumes would not be into the boat to settle in the cockpit, cabin sole or bilge. I'm soliciting thoughts on 1. practicality of the platform. 2. durability of (stainless/teak) platform, 3. the idea of using the platform for a fuel storage accessory. 4. need of backing the mount on the inboard side of the transom, and 5. the thickness of that stern transom wall. My reasoning for using the platform for a fuel storage platform is that I am concerned about the possibility of having any fuel fumes entering the boat anywhere, and I think that with the tank on the outside it would decrease the possibility of that happening. Thank you all for sharing your ideas and expertise. Harvey & Deena H M-15 #348 PELICAN Walla Walla, WA

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Re: M_Boats: Introduction
by Conbert H Benneck 17 Mar '02

17 Mar '02

Hi Cal, I went from big boats to the M15 because, as a sailor, I want my peace and quiet when I'm out on the boat. In the New England area the peace and quiet which was "normal" 20 years ago, are no longer available. Now harbors are wall to wall boats, with the power boats displaying their 200 watt audio systems from the tuna tower by blasing the anchorage with whatever they feel is music. Then there are the harbor launches running till 1 AM rolling you out of your berth as they charge by. Happy hour becomes unhappy hour as the PWCs scream around the harbor. So, I left the big boats and finally found the M15, which is a great little vessel. Now I go to sailing areas where the big powerboat boys can't go: where the number of PWCs approach 0, and I can enjoy sailing with a bit of Mozart playing accompanyment to a lovely afternoon on the water. If you have a big boat, you operate from a fixed base - marina, and your operating range is limited by your vacation days. With an M15, you fire up the car, and in a few hours you are at completely different sailing areas; yours to explore for the day, or just for the weekend. Operating costs for an M15 approach 0, since the only costs incurred are for launch ramp fees. Mine is parked next to the garage so there are no storage costs. I can work on it easily: and I don't have to drive an hour to, and from, the boat yeard where the big boat was stored. Yes, you do give up some of the amenities you would have in a larger boat, but my Admirable feels that this is by far the better way to go sailing. It's simple; no great amount of equipment needed for enjoyment. When we go to Lake Champlain we stay at a B&B, have the boat at a local marina, and sail when conditions are "proper". If there is no wind, we'll look into other activities. If there is too much wind, we are quite content to sit in the cockpit reading a book or just doing pleasurable snoozing. Of course, the M15 is a bit small for fitting a piano, which William Bulkley had in his 50 footer, but then he needed a captain and crew for sailing the big boat; we don't! Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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f l i c k a 2 0
by Harvey Hochstetter 17 Mar '02

17 Mar '02

Hi Cal, Welcome to the Montgomery world. It's a great little craft, with a huge attitude, and the people who sail them are pretty alright too, judging by what I have seen and met so far. I had the pleasure of spending a Sunday afternoon last week with my new father-in-law down on the docks in Portland Oregon. He has been a lifetime boater, both power and sail and at 81 and with out a boat is having separation anxiety. While we were going through the "For Sail" boat from one of the brokerages, I got to see my first Montgomery 23 and in the same breath just on down the dock a ways was a Flicka 20. They are both very seaworthy looking craft. I happen to like the lapstrake hull of the Monty's and I liked the brass and shape of the Flicka's cabin. IMHO, don't see how you could go wrong with either, but living where I do, and liking to travel the way I do, I'd much rather be attached to my M-15 going down the road to another new sailing adventure. Happy Sails to You Harvey & Deena H M-15 #348 PELICAN Walla Walla, WA PS Work has been a bit slow tonight, Gave me time to get caught up on some of the important thing in life.

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 trailer
by Grove777＠aol.com 17 Mar '02

17 Mar '02

am very grateful for the effort made in providing the m 15 trailer measurements thanks and faire winds willow

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RE: M_Boats: Introduction
by Shawn Boles 17 Mar '02

17 Mar '02

Hi Cal: I would have bought a Rhodes 22 (note spelling) myself, as they are a GREAT boat manufactured by a GREAT guy (Stan Spitzer) , but the damn things weigh 3500 pounds. The 17 is a fine substitute and probably a better heavy weather sailboat. Is your boat grey? cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) -----Original Message----- From: Cal Spooner [mailto:cspooner@mn.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:43 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Introduction Hi all, My name is Cal Spooner, and I hail from Mpls, MN. I have been lurking on this list for some time, not because I'm in the habit of lurking, but because I fell behind on the list right off.... and I hate responding to 3 month old posts, as no one knows what you are talking about anymore. But I caught up. Anyway, I purchased an '87 M15, hull #402 (Hi Connie... we're almost twins) in Sept. of 2001 from a friend who used to be on this list, Steve Alm. Steve and I play piano together for a living, and he sucker-punched me with a midnight cruise under a full moon on Lake Minnetonka (the boat's name is Moondance!) and then mentioned that he had his eye on a Rhoads 22, and that if he found one, the boat would be up for sale. The gears started turning immediately in my head... I knew he would cut me a good deal on the M15. Funny thing, a Rhoads 22 turned up in the next couple of weeks.... So, after a little wheeling and dealing, I trailered the (in wonderful condition) boat off for $3500, which I believe is a pretty good deal after reading prices on this list. It has been though some minor modifications, like the mainsail having traveler slugs attached for ease of raising/lowering, and UV covers made for the sails, and a new rudder with a handle that curves upward so it doesn't bang on your knees,with tiller extension. It has a jib downhaul and came with running lights, and a 2 HP two-stroke Yamaha motor, oars, boarding ladder, etc. I threw up a quick web page, if you would like a look at her go to http://www.visi.com/~spoon/Boat/m15.html. I put a solar panel on since and installed a porta-potty. I'm really new to all this, but I've sailed her in high wind conditions (not reefed) and most of it (with a lot of training from Steve) seems to come naturally. (My girlfriend's comment on one occasion... "Geez, we could be pulling a water skier".) Not that I'm smug... on the day in October that I pulled her out, It scared the hell out of me. Bad weather, rain and huge gusts coming from all directions put the mast horizontal a coupla times. Really humbles you. So I'm reading a lot, and subscribing to a few pertinent magazines. I may be short on sailing experience, but I'm long on mechanical know-how, and I'm really gonna have fun with fixing up this boat. I'm going to get those keel guides on the trailer first... get a second pair of reef points on the sail... then I'm going to cut out the starboard locker like Connie describes, and put catches on the lockers. And I'll bet that you could mount one of those low-profile butane stoves to one of the plywood storage covers in the cabin, and flip it upside down when you weren't using it, securing it with rotating clips. And so much more.... Well, considering that my sailing season last year consisted of about 2 months, I hope you understand my exuberance. Here in Minnesota it was below zero yesterday, and all I can see out my window is a big blue tarp, with mast sticking out both ends. It's torture, I tell ya. -- Cal Spooner M15 #402 spoon(a)visi.com cspooner(a)mn.rr.com 763.574.1482 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Introduction
by Conbert H Benneck 17 Mar '02

17 Mar '02

Hi Cal, Congratulations on getting your M15 #402. Let me know if your have any questions about the modifications I made. I'll be glad to go into more detail if you want to know my thinking and reasons, why I did it that way. Connie M15 #400 LEPPO ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Welcome Joe
by Harvey Hochstetter 17 Mar '02

17 Mar '02

Hi Joe, Welcome to a group of really nice folks, and they have some really nice boats too. Come to think of it, I think you have one of the nicer ones. I looked at that listing and did a bit of drooling, but I have been trying to stay immune to two-footitis. We printed off the list of amenities so that we would have some ideas and goals for our "PELICAN" an M-15 that we bought last summer from Chuck Wilson in Portland. In your introduction, you mentioned Flathead. On your way by, stop and sail with us on the mid-Columbia, or join "us" in a hoped for Northwest rendezvous whenever that happens. Haven't seen much about it lately, but maybe that has to do with that it is still raging winter out there (at least here in Utah) yet. Glad to have you aboard, Harvey and Deena M-15 #348 Pelican Walla Walla, WA

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sale of m17
by mikit 17 Mar '02

17 Mar '02

Joseph Hubert of Portland Oregon is the new owner of M17 #369. We would like to thank everyone who responded to our post and to Joseph for purchasing her. Also would like to thank Maria in Florida who was excited about the boat and understandably frustrated because we already had an appointment set up to show it. Hopefully there will be M17 come along for you soon. Mike and Kit

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Re: M_Boats: Re: M_Boats 15 trailer
by Grove777＠aol.com 17 Mar '02

17 Mar '02

would apprecaite measurements as soon as convenient thanks

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