March 2002 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

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by Werner Pels 03 Mar '02

03 Mar '02

"They don't appear to do Web contact, but the telephone number of the Small Craft Dept. is 415.561.7120" My mistake. Here's a link to the small craft workshops and events of the SF Maritime Park: http://www.maritime.org/cal-boat.htm Werner Pels

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Lake MI rendezvous
by Donald Andrew Miller 03 Mar '02

03 Mar '02

Good morning all, I took her back to my folks' house in Elkhart, IN. I have an absurd work schedule, spending roughly 6 months a year working like a dog in Tokyo. "Coquette" is my project for the other 6 months (without a project I'm sure I'd go nuts). I'll leave for St. Pete/Tampa soon, but I should be back in northern IN by June. I plan on bringing her back and sailing her on Lake Michigan this summer. By all means, a rendezvous is a good idea! Are there many Montgomerys 'round these parts? Donald Miller #66 Message: 9 From: stevemc35(a)attbi.com To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Donald: So, you don't seem to mention it in your note, but where did you take your boat back TO? And where are you planning to sail her? Is it anywhere near Chicago by any chance? I'm in the first town along Lake Michigan as you head north from Chicago: Evanston. Less than two miles from the lake shore. Maybe we can get a Midwest Rendezvous going on the Big Lake one of these days. -- Steve McClellan 1981 M15 #152 stevemc35(a)attbi.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com

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Re: M15 high winds
by LVLakeSailor＠aol.com 03 Mar '02

03 Mar '02

Hi Doug, Sounds like the kind of stuff I was into with my 17 out on lake Mead! (except for the swells) In some of the canyons it can get up to 50 mph gusts and higher. The 17 was really good with a storm jib and one reef in the main up to 30mph. After that, two reefs were the rule in the main with the storm jib. I'm going to Norsea on Monday to get the new 15. I'll be able to tell you soon enough.....the windy season here is March through May! Thanks for the info, Chuck Mighty Mouse M-15 ???

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Re: M_Boats: new Montgomery owner
by stevemc35＠attbi.com 03 Mar '02

03 Mar '02

Donald: Welcome to the group. You must have passed within a couple miles of me as you came back through the Chicago area pulling your "new" boat. If only I had known, I would have stood out by the side of the road to watch you go by! (I've never actually seen an M-17 up close yet.) Actually, before I bought my M-15, I considered going up to Sister Bay to take a look at the boat you apparently just bought. It seemed like it might be a good deal. I got as far as Green Bay one Saturday and ran into some car trouble and had to abandon the trip. So but for the grace of God I might have been the owner of Coquette instead of you! So, you don't seem to mention it in your note, but where did you take your boat back TO? And where are you planning to sail her? Is it anywhere near Chicago by any chance? I'm in the first town along Lake Michigan as you head north from Chicago: Evanston. Less than two miles from the lake shore. Maybe we can get a Midwest Rendezvous going on the Big Lake one of these days. -- Steve McClellan 1981 M15 #152 stevemc35(a)attbi.com > Good morning all, > > For the time being, I am probably the newest Montgomery 17 owner. I travelled > up to Sister Bay, > WI to pick up hull #66 on Wednesday. The trip back was quite an adventure, as > we had heavy > weather in northern IN & I made it all the way back ... until at 12:30 a.m. I > sat, spinning my > tires, in the snow and ice in the driveway. We hauled it out of the snow > yesterday. I'm hoping > she sails better in the water than she does in the snow! > > This is my first boat. I've sailed on small local lakes, Lake Michigan and the > Gulf of Mexico, > near St. Pete. There are a few repairs to be done on her. The gelcoat has a > couple dings which > should probably be fixed. The 2-cycle motor wouldn't start at the marina, but > I'm going to clean > it up and see if it can't be fixed. The trailer could be sanded/sandblasted and > weather > protected/galvanized. And the electrical system needs to be replaced. Looks > like I'll be busy. > I downloaded the entire email archives and will be searching them for helpful > hints. > > I plan on heading for the FL Gulf Coast as soon as I can fix some of these > things. As of March 1, > I have 6 months off work, and this boat is my keep-busy project. I'd love to > hear from Montgomery > owners in FL. > > Donald Miller > #66 "Coquette" > > ===== > "Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you > could miss it." > > --Ferris Bueller > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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by LVLakeSailor＠aol.com 02 Mar '02

02 Mar '02

Hi all, Can anybody comment on the behavior of the M-15 in winds of 25+?? Reefed main with jib?, Reefed Main only? Double reef in main? Thanks, Chuck

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Knots
by Howard A 02 Mar '02

02 Mar '02

A useful web page for sailors: http://www.realknots.com/knots/index.htm To assist with some of the difficult knots, some descriptions include animation. Check out the Turks Head. Howard

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Re: M_Boats: (no subject)
by Conbert H Benneck 02 Mar '02

02 Mar '02

Chuck, I can't help with any useful input, just some general comments. When it's blowing 25 knots, I adhere to the paraphrase of the old pilot's comment, which goes: "It's better to be on the ground, wishing you were in the air, than be in the air wishing you were on the ground." The sailor's version is: "It's better to be on the dock, wishing you were out sailing; than to be out sailing, wishing you were at the dock." Under those conditions, my thoughts would be a deep reef in the main, plus possibly a reef in the jib as well. But without being out in an M15 under those conditions to see how the boat reacts, it's difficult to make any meaningful comments. If you have to hang on to the tiller with both hands, you are over-canvased. By reducing sail, you also lighten your steering loads, which reduces the physical effort needed to sail the boat. This is goodness! i.e., the load on the tiller tells you when it is time to reef. >From lots of past experience I can only say, reef early and deep. Keep the boat sailing on it's feet: this lee rail under jazz is for people that insist on spilling their beer, or are looking for a spectacular photo of their boat. The boat doesn't like being sailed that way, and if you are honest - neither do you. Remember, it is always easier to shake out a reef, than it is to put in a reef. If conditions aren't as bad as NOA predicted, you can alway shake out one reef and carry on from there. Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M-15/heavy weather
by LVLakeSailor＠aol.com 02 Mar '02

02 Mar '02

Sounds reasonable...I had similar results in my 17 too. I was wondering if the 15's temperament is relative to it's size, or is it actually more ender overall. Chuck

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Re: M_Boats: new Montgomery owner
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 02 Mar '02

02 Mar '02

On your way south how about a stop over for the CBR starting 6/8/02. We r planning on having another good turnout and you would enjoy the bay. Hope to see you Gary

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Re: M_Boats: A Chimp's Progress
by Conbert H Benneck 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

John, Boy, did you ever luck out getting that Honda 2 HP. I have one too, on my M15 and it's a jewel. Always runs; no quirks; no peeves; no sulking. It's just a happy motor, as others on the list will confirm. At that price it was a steal! I don't know what Harken cam cleats you are going to install, but probably anything is better than the jam cleats that came with the boat. The first thing I did was change out the jib sheet jam cleats for cam cleats. When I get hit by a gust, I want instant release of the jib sheet, not a fight to try and get it out of the jam cleat. It's been a complete success. Was your Reacher/Drifter for any particular boat or did you just go by dimensions? I like your jib track thoughts: keep us informed please: improvements from knowledgable owners improve the breed! Connie M15 #400 LEPPO ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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