March 2002 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Dulcibella arrived in good shape
by David Fann 15 Mar '03

15 Mar '03

The truck carrying Dulcibella, my shiny new Montgomery 17, reached Gainesville (FL) late this afternoon. Boat and trailer are in excellent condition. We started getting compliments even as the unloading proceeded in a mall parking lot. At home, we found she is just a hair too large for the garage. On to Plan B for storage... Now for some boat rigging. The mast/boom package was nicely bubble wrapped, so tomorrow will be like an early Christmas, with presents to open. Thanks, Montgomery Boats! David Fann M17 Dulcibella

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Re: M_Boats: Centerboard trials and tribulations
by Rotortom2＠aol.com 05 May '02

05 May '02

Jerry, what in your opinion would be the better board? I was suprised a few months ago by your comments regarding the shape of the rudder being so critical; does this also apply to the board shape? How would the weight difference change the sailing characteristics of the boat? I had the cast iron board removed, sandblasted, and painted when I first bought Wild Hare, but would still be interested in an improved model.

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Re: M_Boats: First test sail - guess I'll be buying a centerboard
by Conbert H Benneck 03 May '02

03 May '02

Steve, I have the same bulkhead that you see. It keeps thing in place in the sail locker. This bulkhead - about 1 foot high is located on both sides of the boat. My port sail locker, however, has a wall on the inside side, i.e., going from the side of the cockpit seat wall to the bottom of the hull. This keeps thing in the sail locker from rolling under the cockpit sole, and disappearing forever! Now that I cut out the starboard side shallow locker, there is no wall down there. All that is located there are the styrofoam flotation logs. So, the new storage area is only good for large, easily reached and grabbed objects; which is why I have my Bimini, my extra cushions, boarding ladder, etc. stored there. Incidentally, I drilled holes on each end of the shallow locker; threaded about an 1/8th inch line through the holes, put on a piece of plastic tubing as a handle, and tied off the lines on the outside of the shallow locker. This way, I have readily accessible handles for lifting out the locker when I wan to get at the "goodies" that are stored underneath. If you are thinking of doing this modification, let me know and I'll give you more detailed instructions on how I did it. No sense of reinventing the wheel! Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 trailering
by Randy Watkins 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Steve, The newsletter went out of publication a couple of years ago. It was a small quarterly publication run by volunteers. I think several folks on this list worked with the newsletter or offered articles, etc. If there is a way to scan the past copies and put them up on the web site that would be a good service. I'm not sure what that would take but perhaps someone might be interested in working with that. Randy W. M15#194 >>> stevemc35(a)attbi.com 03/28/02 09:19AM >>> Randy: What is the 'Montgomery Newsletter' you mention? -- I hadn't heard of it before, but certainly would be interested in subscribing if such a thing exists. -- Steve McClellan 1981 M15 #152 stevemc35(a)attbi.com > I also have a copy of the > Montgomery newsletter that has a plan for building one utilizing PVC. I'll find > that and make a copy for you. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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boom vang choice
by Randy Watkins 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

I need to replace the vang on my M15. Does anyone have a recommendation. thanks Randy Watkins btw: A friend of mine is selling his classic 1970 Potter 14. It has the wood spar and boom and in overall good condition. He's asking around $2k with the o/b ( Seagull ) or $1600 w/o. He lives in Houston, Tx. if anyone is interested his email is: "Luce, Matt" <matt.luce(a)mustangeng.com> REgards, Randy W. M15#194

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Re: M_Boats: Bottom paint stripper
by Larry Yake 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Thanks Joe, I saw that article (from Oct. '99), but was under the impresssion that they had done a more recent test that had some new products. Their promo ad said something about a 4 hour job! Wishfull thinking maybe. It doesn't sound like a pleasant job at any rate. Larry On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 22:51:01 -0800 "Joe Hubert" <joehh(a)attglobal.net> writes: Hi Larry, You can see the first paragraph or so of an article for free. There is a discount on back articles for subscribers, though I don't know how much. Peel Away Still Most Effective Bottom Paint Stripper http://www.practical-sailor.com/pub/25_20/features/4093-1.html http://www.practical-sailor.com/search (search for stripper) Joe M17 #369 "Puff" -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-admin(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Larry Yake Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:22 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Bottom paint stripper Hello fellow M-boaters, Tullamore will be coming home from winter storage next weekend. :-) Among the many projects on my to-do list is re-doing the bottom paint. An advertisement I got recently from Practical Sailor mentions a test they ran on bottom paint stripper with a clear cut winner. I have a subscription starting, but since this was in an earlier issue, I won't be getting that article. If anyone here is a PS subscriber, could I bother you to look back for that article and pass on the results? Also, any personal experience recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks, Larry Y.

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 trailer
by Steve R 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

<Grove777(a)aol.com> wrote: > a little help needed please > am helping a friend move a m15 no trailer.... Here is what I did... too early for much math. The first set of measurements are from the driveway to the boat/trailer. Actually to the top of the bracket - bottom of the bunk board. The second set are from the bow back. Middle of the bracket. The third set are from the centerline to the right side. Middle of the bracket. My trailer has three "ribs". There is a support from each rib for the bunkboards. Units are inches. 1) Vertical Driveway to stem 67 3/4 Driveway to front bunk support 29 3/4 Driveway to mid bunk support 29 even Driveway to rear bunk support 30 even Driveway to bottom of keel 19 even 2) From bow back Stem to front bunk support 80 1/2 Stem to mid bunk support 116 1/4 Stem to rear bunk support 150 1/2 Stem to c/l of axle 98 1/2 3) From centerline out Centerline to front bunk support 22 1/4 Centerline to mid bunk support 22 even Centerline to rear bunk support 21 1/2 Not guaranteed to hold up in a court of law, but should get you close. Not necessarily the most optimum arrangement - I plan to move the boards out and higher. Good luck! Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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RE: M_Boats: boom vang choice
by Morris, Giles 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

>The Laser blocks There's nothing actually wrong with a Laser vang, but because it's such a tightly controlled class they've been using the same components for... oh, thirty-odd years that I know of. They're no longer the best. In fact, just about every (beat-up) Laser that I've sailed has had the same problem with the jam cleat on the vang block -- it doesn't jam (although it does chew up the line something chronic). I think a better solution would be one of the small blocks with integrated cam cleats. Probably cheaper, too, since class-legal Laser parts are expen$ive. BTW: Nothing against the Laser. It's a lovely little boat, and I'd love to have one... Giles Morris Arlington VA Montgomery 15 #264 "Umiaq" Vancouver 25 #002 Dolphin Sundry small craft (but no Laser -- yet)

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Montgomery 17 in the north east
by Magick111＠aol.com 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

I and my wife have retired to the beautiful state of Maine. We are looking to purchase a small seaworthy sailboat to cruse and daysail the coast. Hearing and reading about the Mont 17 have almost made the decision on the choice of boats for us. The mont 17 seems to be juat what we are looking for. I was wondering if some Montgomery 17 owner up in the northeast would take the time to just share a peek at a boat eye to eye. This is a big expenditure for us on a fixed income, so we want to make sure this boat is the right choice. Thank you in advance.Bob and Callie Owens E mail Magick111(a)aol.com. we really enjoy this Montgomery list , keep up the good work.

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Water Line
by Stanley T. Winarski 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

I haven't found anything in the archives on this. Has anyone found a good way to mark the water line when applying bottom paint on an M-15 ? The 17s seem to have a stripe at the waterline already in the mold. I had a "professional" do my M-15 the first time it got bottom painted and I've had to live with the results ever since. I've tried adjusting the painted line to the real water line when I've repainted but haven¹t been able to get it right. It might work if I stowed jerry cans of water in strategic places on the boat to make it conform to the painted waterline but there has got to be a better way. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Stan Winarski M-15, #177, Carol II Stan Winarski M-15, #177, Carol II

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