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Beatbox (was Re: [Kraftwerk] a final and indeed very serious warn ing to amir (webmaster@slystone.com)!)
by Enrique Correa 07 Jun '02

07 Jun '02

..::=|X|=::.. wrote: > in 1986 > kraftwerk returned that favor and took a part of hip hop (beatboxing) as > an influence for their "boing boom tschak" opening track for their > (rerecorded) album "electric cafe" (formerly "techno-pop"). amir replied: >> Didn't KW always delay the last album to *avoid* sounding like a pop >> band? Every band and their mothers used beat boxes. >> I remember the percussion on the disco hit >> "Ring My Bell" in 1979 using it. Sure, a whole bunch of people used beat boxes at the time, but Karl Bartos once said that "Beatbox" from Art of Noise was the main reason for "Boing Boom Tschak" to be. Then again, Ralf and Florian can probably deny all of it. E

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( mostly OT ) "the real deal" ... or the PERMANENT return of the highly infamous oh jay !!! *XLG* ;-)))
by Oh Jay 07 Jun '02

07 Jun '02

hi y' all ! well ... first of all i like to sincerely apologize to enrique correa & all those of u - EXCEPT this amir guy , kevin busby , rick jansen & oliver ruehl !!! - , who i may have insulted with what i recently wrote here or to u in a private mail !!! *utmost_honest_look* to amir , kevin & rick i can only say that they are in my personal killfiles & that they'll stay there as long as THEY won't apologize FIRST for what they've said to me here !!! btw : if u indeed like to apologize to me first , i'll most likely also apologize to u then & call it a day !!! to reach my inbox , u can send a message from a new or not known addy to me , because the addies that i know & have of u are ALL actively killfiled , which means that NONE of those messages will EVER reach my inbox & therefore simply WON'T be read !!! okay then ... i like to explain some things to y' all right now !!! i think that enrique & i have already made our peace with each other , which makes me indeed VERY_HAPPY , as i see by now that he's A_HONEST_MAN , who seems to think much deeper than the aforementioned other 4 individuals about some things & i suppose that we understand each others concerns by now !!! *indeed_very_happy_&_also_confident_smile* :-))) georgie asked : > Huuuh - what I would find a bit, let's say, interesting: > what is "THE TRUTH" and what are "PLAIN FACTS"? > And who tells us how look the "PLAIN FACTS" like > and where we have to find "THE TRUTH"? WOW_!!! >:-O these are indeed some VERY_IN-DEPTH questions , so i like to answer them as good as i can !!! *sincerest_look* "PLAIN_FACTS" are those facts that u can PROVE_WITHOUT_A_DOUBT , because there are VARIOUS_RELIABLE_SOURCES "out there" , who give u the exact same info about / answer to your question(s) !!! in case of the true history of hip hop , jus' go to the zulunation website @ http://www.zulunation.com & then VERIFY all the info from that site with other reliable sources , to finally find out that those info is TRUE & can be seen or looked @ as "PLAIN_FACTS" in this specific case !!! i know very well that it's indeed pretty hard to find some good & reliable sources to actually PROVE some info - especially when it comes to the sometimes still highly enigmatic history of our favorite group KRAFTWERK_!!! :-o ... & before anybody asks "what is a reliable source for u & how do u prove their reliability then ???" , i'll answer this question too in advance !!! *sly_grin* ;-) a RELIABLE_SOURCE becomes jus' that , when ALL the info that comes from it can be PROVEN & also VERIFIED by other - INDEPENDENT_!!! - sources , which might be hard in certain cases , but not necessarily impossible ... not even in the case of kw !!! *slyest_grin* ;-))) "THE_TRUTH" is ALWAYS based on the "PLAIN_FACTS" that u've researched by VERIFYIN' various RELIABLE_SOURCES to finally PROVE the info that u've got as VALUABLE_&_TRUE_!!! sure , things can also be TRUE , if u aren't always able to verify them with reliable info from various reliable sources , but in this case it's simply better to say "IN_MY_HUMBLE_OPINION" first , before anybody takes this info for granted & as 100% proven right !!! ;-) that's why i like to say "THE_TRUTH is out there ... u jus' have to find the info to prove it !!!" *slyest_grin_u_can_imagine* ;-))) so ***_INFORMATION_*** that comes from VARIOUS_RELIABLE_SOURCES & can be PROVEN_RIGHT in ALL cases is the ONLY way to gain "PLAIN_FACTS" & to finally find "THE_TRUTH"_!!! i sincerely hope that this answeres your questions , dear georgie !? > I'm a list-member since ca. 5 years now, > but it's getting more and more uncomfortable here. > Sorry. i can understand u all too well !!! *very_deep_sigh* :-o especially , when i see that from time to time people like this amir guy comes along ONLY to stir up trouble on this list again & when there's NO_MODERATOR to control people like him !!! :-/ this is EXACTLY the situation that i'll CONSTANTLY criticise ... UNTIL_IT_WILL_BE_CHANGED ... FINALLY_&_FOREVER_!!! PERIOD_!!! > BTW, why did you change your idendity / pseudonym? to tell u the truth , i've INDEED left this list COMPLETELY after i've sent out my last message as oh jay in early may !!! i've told this to a few friends ... & also to kevin busby , which most likely was a big fault of mine , as i see it by now !!! :-/ then i've rejoined the list later under my "..::=|X|=::.." pseudonym & hoped to stay UNKNOWN & "UNIDENTIFIED" , because i jus' wanted to keep a low profile & have ONLY joined the list again to state some facts , like i did as i simply quoted the info from kevin's FAQ in the case of "zehn kleine negerlein" & as i later stated some facts about the true history of hip hop & the connection between kw & hip hop , which i've simply based on a reliable source like the zulunation site & my own interviews that i've once done with people like kool dj herc & grandmaster flash in 1991 in new york city !!! but then this amir guy came along & tried to ridicule me with his PLAIN_NONSENSE ( which is the opposite of PLAIN_FACTS_!!! ;-) & even kevin busby thought that it might be funny to expose my new pseudonym on this list , which i took indeed VERY_SERIOUSLY & as a personal insult & i jus' quit my "virtual" friendship with him after it , as this "incident" clearly indicated for me , what kind of MALICIOUS character he really is !!! *deeply_saddened_sigh* :-o well ... i fought back for some time , but i jus' saw HOW_AIMLESS it can be , if people like this amir guy & also kevin & some others are simply NOT_ABLE or NOT_WILLIN' to understand some VERY_BASIC things & FACTS_!!! :-/ then i decided to change my pseudonym again , ONLY to promote the kraftwerkfans group @ yahoo! & try to convince people to join that group & possibly leave this list instead !!! maybe that was also a fault of me then ... however !!! :-o btw : i also like to change my pseudonyms from time to time to get out of some people's killfiles , which is ALWAYS a very simple & also pretty effective way indeed !!! *hehehe* ;-))) but by now i'm ONLY on this list under my best known nickname ( which simply ISN'T a pseudonym , as it stands for the initials of my REAL name olaf juerss !!! ;-) oh jay !!! *G+* ;-) fyi : i'll PERMANENTLY stay on this list as oh jay from now on ... until it gets closed down or until i'll get booted by the owner !!! *BWG* ;-))) THAT'S_"THE_REAL_DEAL" & u simply have to cope with it , fellows !!! *slyest_grin_again* ;-))) any further questions ??? ;-) however ... many greetinx , oh jay ;-) ~*~ jvr network program - june 2002 : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/program.html ( incl. live stream via internet ) studio webcam - live : http://stream.ok-bremen.de/studio.html radio show archive : http://friends.schallreflektor.com/ohjay/alien_disco playlist archive : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/playlists brand new website release soon @ http://www.jointventureradio.net & also http://www.jointventureradio.org *~\^/~*

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by Lord Ruthven 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

according to a couple of german and austrian teletext news, Dee Dee Ramone passed away at the age of 50. he died wednesday evening at home in hollywood on his sofa, apparently on an overdose. that's style, after all. rip jan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Alec Empire on Kraftwerk
by Enrique Correa 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

DER AUTOMAT shared with us: > Alec Empire (from Atari Teenage Riot) > Duesseldorf 26-11-1999 > [ yadda yadda ] And who the heck is this empire guy? He seems to enjoy wasting time talking about something he hates. As bad as KW might seem to him, they got his attention all right. E

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Re: Alec Empire on dope ... err ... on Kraftwerk ;-)
by Oh Jay 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

enrique wondered : > And who the heck is this empire guy? well ... i'm currently jus' too lazy to provide u with some interestin' linx about mr. empire , so i suggest that u type "alec empire" in the search box of the google search engine & check out some of the results that u get , if u are indeed interested in some more info about him & his several projects !!! ;-) anyway ... he's indeed released some pretty interestin' "stuff" over the years - also jus' recently ;-) - & there are some nice tunes on his new double-album & i already played a track called "electric bodyrock" ( ;-) in one of my last radio shows too !!! ( oops ... even more shameless self-promotion here !!! *hehehe* ;-))) > He seems to enjoy wasting time talking about something he hates. fyi : the whole concept of his band called atari teenage riot ( or simply atr ;-) was based around HATE against [ fill in whatever u like ... err ... HATE !!! ] & such "stuff" !!! :-o u may also call the music of his band atr "electro punk" , if u like !!! *G+* ;-) > As bad as KW might seem to him, they got his attention all right. ... & he's also MASSIVELY influenced by them ... no matter , if he personally likes or even denies it !!! *BWG* ;-))) lots of his less aggressive productions prove this influence very clearly then !!! ;-) btw : one of atr's most controversial slogans was "DESTROY_DEUTSCHLAND_!!!" >:-O i suppose that says it all , eh !? ;-) however ... many greetinx again , oh jay ;-) ~*~ jvr network program - june 2002 : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/program.html ( incl. live stream via internet ) studio webcam - live : http://stream.ok-bremen.de/studio.html radio show archive : http://friends.schallreflektor.com/ohjay/alien_disco playlist archive : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/playlists brand new website release soon @ http://www.jointventureradio.net & also http://www.jointventureradio.org *~\^/~*

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( re : ) the diff'rence between "a beatbox" & "beatboxin'" !!! *sly_grin* ;-)
by Oh Jay 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

thanx to a reply of enrique , i can now set some things straight !!! ;-) i once wrote myself already some days ago : > ... a part of hip hop (beatboxing) ... then amir replied : > Every band and their mothers used beat boxes. *LOL* ;-))) yeah ... of course !!! *hehehe* ;-))) but when i wrote "a part of hip hop ( beatboxin' )" , then i VERY_CLEARLY referred to THE_HUMAN_BEATBOX & NOT to the machine called "beatbox" !!! *BWG* ;-))) have i made this point clear by now ... finally & forever !? *G+* ;-) today enrique wrote : > but Karl Bartos once said that "Beatbox" from Art of Noise > was the main reason for "Boing Boom Tschak" to be. that's indeed pretty interestin' & could mean that kw were also influenced by the arrt of noise then !!! *ROTFLOL* ;-))) well ... things on this list are gettin' much funnier today ... & i must admit that i really like it like that !!! *VBS* :-))) however ... many greetinx again , oh jay ;-) ~*~ jvr network program - june 2002 : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/program.html ( incl. live stream via internet ) studio webcam - live : http://stream.ok-bremen.de/studio.html radio show archive : http://friends.schallreflektor.com/ohjay/alien_disco playlist archive : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/playlists brand new website release soon @ http://www.jointventureradio.net & also http://www.jointventureradio.org *~\^/~*

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Re: The Mix and Work
by Oh Jay 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

From: anthony.ristic(a)btopenworld.com > Anyway, I have just secured a copy of Orbital's new 'greatest hits' album, > "Work 1989-2002". fyi : i'm a fan of orbital for almost a decade by now & it's VERY_LIKELY that i'll play both , their new song "frenetic" & also the new version of their hit "chime" ( live style mix ) in my next radio show ( see the linx below !!! ;-) on sunday @ 18:00 cet ( central european time , which is gmt + 1 hour ;-) !!! *G+* ;-) > Look forward to seeing there if you are already a convert. i'm sorry , but that's simply not possible for me to come to that event as i'm XXX-tremely busy on that particular day & involved in a big event called "vision parade / vision park" ( for more info go to : http://www.vision-parade.de ;-) in my hometown bremen in northern germany !!! *smirk* :o} p. s. : PLEASE_DON'T quote the whole digest in your reply the next time , dear anthony !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx , oh jay ( a.k.a. deejay doc jones ;-) ~*~ jvr network program - june 2002 : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/program.html ( incl. live stream via internet ) studio webcam - live : http://stream.ok-bremen.de/studio.html radio show archive : http://friends.schallreflektor.com/ohjay/alien_disco playlist archive : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/playlists brand new website release soon @ http://www.jointventureradio.net & also http://www.jointventureradio.org *~\^/~*

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Die Stimme der Energie: Toward an Interpretation of the Gesamtkunstwerk of Kraftwerk
by Luca Dassi 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

The title says it all... interesting reading. http://kebnekajse.tripod.com/stimme.html Ciao, Luca

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Alec Empire on Kraftwerk
by Der Automat 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

I don't remember if the following was posted already to this list, if so I apologize to everyone. OTOH, I know this is rather old but it is weird enough to be mentioned here, IMO. Alec Empire (from Atari Teenage Riot) Duesseldorf 26-11-1999 http://www.nme.com/news/2457.htm: "We should call Kraftwerk up and tell them to come down here. hahaha but they would be too cool - the self-announced "godfathers of techno"! hahaha. They would be like: Nein,nein - Sat iz not kool! It iz too rockistish. prrrrppr. I mean did anybody hear that shit they did for this Expo-shit. I mean it is shit - yeah they got some money but who fucking cares about that. ... Does it make it clever and good. NOOOO. Hahaha - We should announce in the press that Kraftwerk is coming down here to play with us together - and everybody would be like: wow theze guyz muzt be really kool!!!! And we ring up these friends of mine in Minneapolis who do sculptures and we would put these perfect copies of the fucking lame robots on stage. Hahaha and everybody would be like: theze guyz are zooo really kool!!!! Zey play wiz Kraftwerk!!! Man!!! And the real Kraftwerk guys would be pissed as hell!!! And there would be nothing they could do about it or they have to fucking destroy their elitist image and call the media up to tell the truth - and the truth would make them look so stupid. Hahaha Have you read the book of the fourth guy who was like the slave in Kraftwerk. Who built the fucking drummachine and the other two guys got the copyright on it. ... I mean everything they said was wrong: Autobahn, Radioactivity, Model, It's more fun to compute and so on. This guy ROPE on our label GEIST is going to release a new record in the first months of 2000 - it's called >>IT'S NO FUN TO COMPUTE<< It's a very cool record, man. very cool - I heard it already. Come on , let's go and eat. And then hours later we go on stage, everybody applauses, nobody dances, Hanin vomits all over Trent's monitors, and I'm attacking the fucking Kraftwerkgoths, I mean it's like everybody in the audience is looking like robots suddenly - we got ourselves so much into this Anti-Dusseldorf thing. It's like this high-society city you know." --- Unquoted --- Digital Hardcore Recordings http://www.digitalhardcore.com DER AUTOMAT ®

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The Mix and Work
by anthony.ristic＠btopenworld.com 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

Hi all, I have recently subscribed to this mailing list in the hope that I would get a sniff of information about a possible forthcoming tour. >From what I have been reading this seems about as likely as the sun coming out in London at the moment. Anyway, I have just secured a copy of Orbital's new 'greatest hits' album, "Work 1989-2002". I have always regarded Orbital as having picked up, where Kraftwerk left off. Not so much in terms of musical genre but in terms of their quality of production and pin-sharp programming. This album really stands out as one of the finest collections of electronica to be produced in the last decade. I have been indebted to these two brothers for their seminal live performances and constant innovation which have filled the vaccuum left by years of inactivity by our beloved KW. The collaboration by the two groups on expo2000 was a shelf-filler and nothing more. I will be seeing Orbital play an open-air concert at Somerset House (London) on June 22. I know for a fact that my brother and I will witness a performance which will resonate in our aural memories forever. No matter where you are from; Korea, Germany or round the corner, I strongly suggest you get a ticket (www.wayahead.com) and be part of a ceremony which is rapidly dying out. Look forward to seeing there if you are already a convert. Sorry if I sound live an advertising agent, I started writing this when I read all your comments about The Mix. The Mix is another shelf-filler but I DO love the version of Computer World and Musique Non Stop. MOVE ON - that album was not important in the great scheme of things. Work 1989-2002 is important. Anthony > from: kraftwerk-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 13:32:12 > to: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > subject: Re: Kraftwerk digest, Vol 1 #183 - 4 msgs > > Send Kraftwerk mailing list submissions to > kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kraftwerk-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kraftwerk-admin(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Kraftwerk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: mix (Lemmens Geert) > 2. Re: mix (John Shilcock) > 3. Re: mix (www.network81.com) > 4. Re: mix (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Erik_J=E4levik?=) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 04:21:40 -0700 (PDT) > From: Lemmens Geert <gele_skylined(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] mix > To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > Reply-To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > > --0-1677187475-1023362500=:65752 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > i think the mix is the difference between the "old" kw fans and the "new" fans. over the years i noticed on this list that everybody who was a fan in the 70's and 80's doesn't like the mix that much. but it can not be ignored that a lot of younger fans discovered kw via the mix (i for one am one of them). so for the "new" fans the mix will always be one of the best (maybe the best) kw albums. > just trying to find an answer to a discussion that keeps comming back... > g > > webmaster(a)slystone.com wrote: > > Rob Evans wrote: > > > I much prefer the Mix version of Computer Love actually. > > Now that is great. > > -------------- > i agree with all your posts but this one. > The Mix iz a disco Mess. > > amir > > > _______________________________________________ > Kraftwerk mailing list > Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk > > father/into your hands/I/command my spirit. > why have you forsaken me, > in your eyes forsaken me, > in your thoughts forsaken me, > in your heart forsaken me, me oh. > trust in my self righteous suicide, > I, cry, when angels deserve to die... > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup > --0-1677187475-1023362500=:65752 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > > i think the mix is the difference between the "old" kw fans and the "new" fans. over the years i noticed on this list that everybody who was a fan in the 70's and 80's doesn't like the mix that much. but it can not be ignored that a lot of younger fans discovered kw via the mix (i for one am one of them). so for the "new" fans the mix will always be one of the best (maybe the best) kw albums. > just trying to find an answer to a discussion that keeps comming back... > g > > webmaster(a)slystone.com wrote: > <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> Rob Evans wrote: > I much prefer the Mix version of Computer Love actually. > Now that is great. -------------- i agree with all your posts but this one. The Mix iz a disco Mess. amir _______________________________________________ Kraftwerk mailing list Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk</BLOCKQUOTE> father/into your hands/I/command my spirit. why have you forsaken me, in your eyes forsaken me, in your thoughts forsaken me, in your heart forsaken me, me oh. trust in my self righteous suicide, I, cry, when angels deserve to die... <hr size=1>Do You Yahoo!? > <a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/welcome/*http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/fc/en/spl">Sign-up for Video Highlights</a> of 2002 FIFA World Cup > --0-1677187475-1023362500=:65752-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "John Shilcock" <john(a)keepwerking.co.uk> > To: "KW" <kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] mix > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:36:55 0100 > Reply-To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > > Lemmens Geert [gele_skylined(a)yahoo.com] wrote > >>over the years i noticed on this list that everybody who was a fan in the > 70's and 80's doesn't like the mix that much > > Let's blow this one out of the water straight away ;o).... I 'discovered' > Kraftwerk around 1978.... but love the mix.... yes... I play it loud too! > *he he* > > Keep Werking > John > www.keepwerking.co.uk > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "www.network81.com" <klingklang(a)network81.com> > To: <kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] mix > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 13:32:36 0200 > Reply-To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > > the mix is one of the best albums... > but i prefere "computerwelt". > what do fans think about "organisation"?? *hehe* > -------------------------------------- > www.network81.com > www.arthur-brehm.de > www.klanghof.de > www.duesselklang.de > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lemmens Geert" <gele_skylined(a)yahoo.com> > To: <kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] mix > > > > > > i think the mix is the difference between the "old" kw fans and the "new" > fans. over the years i noticed on this list that everybody who was a fan in > the 70's and 80's doesn't like the mix that much. but it can not be ignored > that a lot of younger fans discovered kw via the mix (i for one am one of > them). so for the "new" fans the mix will always be one of the best (maybe > the best) kw albums. > > just trying to find an answer to a discussion that keeps comming back... > > g > > > > webmaster(a)slystone.com wrote: > > > > Rob Evans wrote: > > > > > I much prefer the Mix version of Computer Love actually. > > > Now that is great. > > > > -------------- > > i agree with all your posts but this one. > > The Mix iz a disco Mess. > > > > amir > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Kraftwerk mailing list > > Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk > > > > father/into your hands/I/command my spirit. > > why have you forsaken me, > > in your eyes forsaken me, > > in your thoughts forsaken me, > > in your heart forsaken me, me oh. > > trust in my self righteous suicide, > > I, cry, when angels deserve to die... > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Erik_J=E4levik?= <erik.jalevik(a)ntlworld.com> > To: <kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] mix > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:40:52 0100 > Reply-To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lemmens Geert" <gele_skylined(a)yahoo.com> > > i think the mix is the difference between the "old" kw fans and the "new" > fans. over the > >years i noticed on this list that everybody who was a fan in the 70's and > 80's doesn't like the > >mix that much. but it can not be ignored that a lot of younger fans > discovered kw via the mix > >(i for one am one of them). so for the "new" fans the mix will always be > one of the best > >(maybe the best) kw albums. > > Well, I've been a fan of Kraftwerk for a long time, but nowhere near as long > as some of the people on here. I was born in the year when Radio-Activity > came out which means I was 16 when The Mix came out. I had heard some > Kraftwerk stuff before that but I think The Mix was the first Kraftwerk > album I bought. And although I loved it at the time and it could be said to > have heightened my interest for the band, the big point for me is that it > just doesn't have the longevity of the earlier stuff. And today, for me, it > would be a contender for the worst Kraftwerk album. It just feels quite > unnecessary. Still wondering why they released it, could it maybe have been > that they needed some money to buy new bikes? > > Erik > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Kraftwerk mailing list > Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk > > > End of Kraftwerk Digest

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