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Re: [KLF] THE REAL X$X
by Julian Slinger 07 Feb '04

07 Feb '04

A lot of the tracks seem equal parts drum'n'bass and noisy guitar but I don't think you're listening to a speeded-up Bill Drummond!!And the idea that X$X is trying to make it appear it's the KLF seems to me to be ridiculous..it doesn't sound anything like the KLF and there's been enough documention over the years to show that this kind-of KLF/X$X association is just a small part of the game-plan. THE BUILDING (the old version which is linked to from the xdollarx yahoo site) is about the idea of the multiple names, like Michael K and Luther Blissett and Stewart Home and obviously The KLF have an interconnection with all of that Neoist stuff. Somewhere there's a lot of stuff on 'Michael K' as Drummond and cauty's secret collaborator from the beginning but, again, I think this is just people putting 2 and 3 together to make 23. Having said that, he one thing that's always been a mystery is how X$X used the K Foundation's po box address a year before the K Foundation was announced. I think the main thing is that all of the activists in this kind of area are trying to mess with the usual concepts of truth and authenticity so the real truth is that the devil's in the detail and the detail doesnt matter. It's just the message that matters and in this case, I'm glad it's music since the whole intellectual thing kind of washes over me a bit. Blys Jon Doe wrote: On a first glance the music is really tidy. Some tracks are mixing dance and guitars. A lot of the tracks use a formular of a classic breakbeat with a few extra bits to help it along. Some tracks sound like different mixes of others (is this to increase the amount of clips). On the building, the voice sounds like a pitched up Drummond trying to and almost achieving a non drummond sound! Obviously this works the other way and all things pointing at KLF like the font used, track titles etc could be there to make us think it is KLF. What do Drummond and Cauty say about this? Tim, positive void, can you help here? ___________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save Â£80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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Re:Re:[KLF] THE REAL X$X
by Raymond Baal 07 Feb '04

07 Feb '04

Try looking through the links section on the xdollarx yahoo group. http://groups.yahoo.co.uk/group/xdollarx/links. There's lots of stuff there including an ancient site (see the EVERYTHING YOU DON'T KNOW IS RIGHT link) by someone trying to sum it up at that time. I've meant to try to do this many times (hasn't everone who's ever been even vaguely intrigued by X$X) but there's so much information to collate. Maybe you'll do better. I'll help you as much as I can. Thomas Touzimsky wrote: >I can't check at the moment, but is there a summary of who/what X$X are? I wanted to add this to the FAQ. ___________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save Â£80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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by PVC 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

clothing 4 the retro-head generation http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3272551721&ssPageName=… inhale & enjoy tim

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pure trance e-train
by Tony Pesci 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

Now i wonder if anyone can help me for many moon's i have been puzzled?I've seen a picture of the e-train 008T as sea green the font on this picture looks wrong to me compared to all the others[example the lettering goes along the number five on the 008R sleeve]which you would think would be the same on 008T.The plot thicken's the labels i have and only labels no sleeve are yellow a different yellow to 007T.F**k i hope that's clear,you think your confused. Cheers tony

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Re: Re: [KLF] THE REAL X$X
by thomas＠klf.de 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

I can't check at the moment, but is there a summary of who/what X$X are? I wanted to add this to the FAQ. ..::// Thomas Touzimsky

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Re: [KLF] THE REAL X$X
by Raymond Baal 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

> No...ultra-professional design classics like the first > K2 Planthire site spring to mind when you're talking > KLF on the web;-) www.blacksmoke.org www.penkiln-burn.com Yes..and while I was trawling the KLF list-archives for X$X data a while back, I noticed a few observations from the mid-nineties about the coincidental, at that time rare, use of Flash for the KLF and X$X related sites with a few people speculating on what that might indicate. Is Simon Cauty still the Flash dude behind the Blacksmoke site? The Penkiln Burn is also one of my favourite sites as it actually has CONTENT to the fore;-) Ray Thomas Touzimsky wrote: They both look quite professional to me (although PB is quite minimal,but I like that). And don't get me started talking about the database structure of the KLF Online sections that are yet to go online... ;-) (that's no official website, but 'KLF on the web' anyway) (nb. The FAQs are almost finished, I just need to fill the two missing sections - "Bootlegs" and "Who is who?" All other stuff has been added and updated to 2004 if necessary) ___________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save Â£80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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Re: Re: [KLF] THE REAL X$X
by thomas＠klf.de 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

> speculating on what that might indicate. Is Simon > Cauty still the Flash dude behind the Blacksmoke site? AFAIK it's all done by Keir. Simon had no knowledge of Blacksmoke last time I talked to him. ..::// Thomas Touzimsky Don't make me use uppercase!

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Re: [KLF] THE REAL X$X
by Harry Kipper 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

Stuey and Michelle wrote: >>if Michael K wants to be taken seriously he ought to >>move his website off Lycos with the fucking >>crappy pop-up ads - not at all cool mate! Duh...WHAT POP-UP ADS? If you think >>you are mysterious or artistic then you need to >>suffer for your art and fucking pay for a web host.- I don't see any but then I use Mozilla which allows you to kill them and therefore prevents artists suffering for their art by paying for web hosts;-) >>you wouldn't catch the KLF using a free host with >>adverts. No...ultra-professional design classics like the first K2 Planthire site spring to mind when you're talking KLF on the web;-) In any case,even if there were a pop-up ad on my browser, it's a pretty petty complaint to make given the amount of trax that are there all of a sudden after aeons of rumori. "X$X? I'M LOVIN' IT" ___________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save Â£80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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Re: [KLF] THE REAL X$X
by Raymond Baal 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

Harry Kipper wrote: Stuey and Michelle wrote: >>if Michael K wants to be taken seriously he ought to >>move his website off Lycos with the fucking >>crappy pop-up ads - not at all cool mate! >Duh...WHAT POP-UP ADS? No pop-up ads here either and I'm using Netscape. If you think >>you are mysterious or artistic then you need to >>suffer for your art and fucking pay for a web host.- >I don't see any but then I use Mozilla which allows >you to kill them and therefore prevents artists >suffering for their art by paying for web hosts;-) Yes...it's maybe using IE (?) that's the problem. It's got the opposite of a pop-up killer.Does anybody seriously still use this stinker of a browser? Netscape might be slower but at least it tends to load what I'm actually trying to look at! >>you wouldn't catch the KLF using a free host with >>adverts. >No...ultra-professional design classics like the first >K2 Planthire site spring to mind when you're talking >KLF on the web;-) That was the one with the really bad spelling mistake and what looked like a scan done by photocopier wasn't it? >In any case,even if there were a pop-up ad on my >browser, it's a pretty petty complaint to make given >the amount of trax that are there all of a sudden >after aeons of rumori. Agree there. I'm lucky to have got interested in the X$X legend/mythos at a time when stuff was actually about to happen. I can well understand that it's been a pisser for everybody else who doesnt dig it on that 'It's pure data-the product is never fulfilled' front. I wonder what that school of X$X followers makes of the sell-out into actual tracks:)? >"X$X? I'M LOVIN' IT" Me too. The most exciting thing on the web any year. Ray ___________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save Â£80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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Re: [KLF] THE REAL X$X
by Harry Kipper 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

Stuey and Michelle wrote: >>if Michael K wants to be taken seriously he ought to >>move his website off Lycos with the fucking >>crappy pop-up ads - not at all cool mate! Duh...WHAT POP-UP ADS? If you think >>you are mysterious or artistic then you need to >>suffer for your art and fucking pay for a web host.- I don't see any but then I use Mozilla which allows you to kill them and therefore prevents artists suffering for their art by paying for web hosts;-) >>you wouldn't catch the KLF using a free host with >>adverts. No...ultra-professional design classics like the first K2 Planthire site spring to mind when you're talking KLF on the web;-) In any case,even if there were a pop-up ad on my browser, it's a pretty petty complaint to make given the amount of trax that are there all of a sudden after aeons of rumori. "X$X? I'M LOVIN' IT" ___________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save Â£80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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