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new FAQ
by say.map＠ihug.co.nz 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

> Just a short note that the FAQ is almost complete and > updated for 2004 You're a hero for taking it on - I look forward to seeing the new version, interesting to see how you have structured it, what new questions you have added and what you've changed about the existing questions. Hope you've remembered to retain my credit ;-) cheers -- This is the webmail account of Stuart Young, Michelle Ardern & Felix Ardern-Young (2) 42B, Sefton Ave, Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Phone: +64 (0)9 376 8100 say.map(a)ihug.co.nz Stuey's personal website - a cobweb site: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/

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KLF Remix CDs
by klf-communications＠arcor.de 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

Does anybody have these CDs or songs? I could find these nowhere. CD1 - HARDER 1. 2K - Fuck The Millennium (October Orbit remix by ODC1) 2. c-Row vs the KLF - What Time Is Love (Old Time Suckers RFTM Remix) 3. DJ Nite - Britney Joins The JAMS (Oops... It's 3AMnM Again!) 4. DJ Nite vs The KLF - What Time Is Top Of The Pops 5. Sign Of Zeta - Chunka Chunka (Zen House version 1.2) 6. The KLF & 2K - What Time Is Love / Fuck The Millennium (ODC1 Postworld Remix) 7. The KLF - 3am Eternal (Live @ Lakehouse) (renegade 1220 pm mix) 8. The KLF - 3am Eternal (MuMu Seekers SSL demo rekonstruction) 9. The KLF - Justified ANd Ancient (MuMu Seekers bottom of time mix) 10. The KLF - Last Train TO The SubBass (by ODC1) 11. The KLF - WHo Killed The North (mixed by Kay el Eph) 12. The KLF vs Kay el Eph - The Valentine Needs (Mad Love mix) CD2 - SOFTER 1. Big Louis - Kylie In A Trance (pure funk original) 2. Bill Drummond - Born Free (virtual exotica) 3. c-Row vs the KLF - Go To Sleep (Old Time Suckers 2000 reconstruction) 4. Sienkeitto - Kylie Said Minimal (edit) 5. The KLF (aka the Moneyburners) - How To Burn A Pound Note 6. The KLF - 3am Eternal (MuMu seekers so nice dream edit) 7. The KLF - Go To Sleep (cyclic mix) 8. The KLF - It's Chilled Up North (23 seconds from trancentral) 9. The KLF - Justified & Ancient (stand by the JAMs) (ODC1 meets JABU & USIFU) 10. The KLF - What Love Was Time 11. The KLF - What Time Is Time 12. The KLF - What Time Is Love (fuckin miserable by ODC1) 13. The KLF - What Time Is Love (ODC1 grey and yellow mix) 14. The Merucon Men - Merucon (chilled out) DISC 3 - VARIOUS 1. 2K - Fuck The Millennium (ODC1 Protest mix) 2. DJ Kuta - Ancients Hereafter (demo '94) 3. DJ Kuta - Fly (original 'time is eternal' mix) 4. DJ Kuta - Fly Away (clouds across the sky remix) 5. DJ Kuta - The KLF vs The 80s 6. DJ Kuta - Timelords (Demo '93) 7. Force 23 - The Tardis Returns 8. Kallisti Love Foundation - Doktoring Thee Timelordz (HX!FM mix) 9. SMAJ ehT - Hey Hey We Are Not The Monkees Either 10. The KLF - Justified & Ancient (92bpm Dubbed Out MU by ODC1) 11. The KLF - Last Train To Trancentral (the KLF meets DJ Forkboy downtown) 12. The KLF - Madrugada Eterna (NJ & NY by ODC1) 13. The KLF - No More Tears (driving all the way by ODC1) 14. The KLF - Sixty Seconds in Omsk http://www.klf-communications.tk/

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Bootleg label scans please :-)
by Thomas Touzimsky 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

Just a short note that the FAQ is almost complete and updated for 2004 somewhere hidden beyond the KLF Online front page. I am currently working on the new added "Bootlegs" section and wanted to ask you to send me some good scans of labels - or descriptions - of records in question. "1987" is pretty easy for example since I got both the original and the bootleg, but I am still missing the Chill Out LP on vinyl, so any help is appreciated. Additionally, due to the fact that Sample City isn't updated any more, we will add "normal" bootlegs as well. Oh, and the new FAQ isn't the only thing that's currently in its pre-release state... ;-) ..::// Thomas Touzimsky A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?

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RE: KLF Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5
by Daniel D 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

Anyone 25ing this year? >From: klf-request(a)mailman.xmission.com >Reply-To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com >To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: KLF Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 >Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 06:15:18 -0700 > >Send KLF mailing list submissions to > klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > klf-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > klf-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of KLF digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Sound Recorders??? (TheMgnt(a)aol.com) > 2. Re: OT - Finley Quaye (TheRitesOfMu(a)aol.com) > 3. RE: Should be Quarantined : [KLF] OT - Finley Quaye > (Richard Haslock) > 4. Re: THE REAL X$X (Stuey and Michelle) > 5. Fw: [foundry-news: 106] radio specials this friday (PVC) > 6. Re: THE REAL X$X (Harry Kipper) > 7. Re: THE REAL X$X (Harry Kipper) > 8. Re: THE REAL X$X (Raymond Baal) > 9. AW: [KLF] THE REAL X$X (Thomas Touzimsky) > 10. Re: THE REAL X$X (Raymond Baal) > 11. Re: Re: [KLF] THE REAL X$X (thomas(a)klf.de) > 12. Re: THE REAL X$X (Jon Doe) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 01:53:35 EST >From: TheMgnt(a)aol.com >Subject: Re: [KLF] Sound Recorders??? >To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com >Message-ID: <133.2ac4a81e.2d53426f(a)aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > What is the prog called that allows you to record music off of your >desktop? > > I cant remember the name of it. > >There are a few, but I use Total Recorder. Saves as wav or mp3. > >-paul > >Currently in rotation: Beatles - Best of the Get Back Sessions (custom); >McCartney (various mp3) > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 04:30:54 EST >From: TheRitesOfMu(a)aol.com >Subject: Re: [KLF] OT - Finley Quaye >To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com >Message-ID: <bb.3b95fd9d.2d53674e(a)aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > yes i have heard of finley quaye, i have 2 cds of his if you'd like >them.... >i don't like the music personally... > > Wizard >

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Re: [KLF] : Yahoo! Is Up to Its Usual Shenanigans]
by TheMgnt＠aol.com 08 Feb '04

08 Feb '04

> Yahoo! is now using something called "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo! Group This is, like, really old news. Along the lines of four years old really old news. Suprised not everyone was aware of this. -paul Currently in rotation: ELO - Ultimate Collection; PetShopBoys - Release (demos); Beatles - Best of the Get Back Sessions (custom); McCartney - (various mp3); Blacksmoke.org - 5-11

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Email;
by RMStringer 08 Feb '04

08 Feb '04

i will be hard to reach on email b/c my main workstation has crashed and i am useing the server to send and recieve all mail. I hope to be up soon this week....by wednesday Thankx, RMStringer

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: Yahoo! Is Up to Its Usual Shenanigans]
by RMStringer 08 Feb '04

08 Feb '04

Bunch OF Bull Shit!!!!!!! RMStringer _______________________________________________________ We must reject this primitive and almost cannibalistic delusion about knowledge, that an understanding of something requires first that we dismantle it, like a child who pulls a watch to pieces and spreads out the wheels in order to understand the mechanism.(Rene Thom, 1923-2002) _____ -------- Original Message -------- Guys & Gals, I got this message from another Yahoo! group I am on. I thought you might want to know. Yahoo! is now using something called "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo! Group users around the 'net to see what they're doing, where they're going, etc. Web beacons seem to be similar to cookies. Take a look at their updated privacy statement: http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/pixels/details.html About halfway down the page, in the section "Outside the Yahoo! Network", you'll see a little "click here" link that will let you opt out of their new method of snooping. I strongly recommend that you do this. Once you have clicked that link, you are opted out - notice the "Success" message the top the next page. *Be careful* - because on that page there is a "Cancel Opt Out" button that, if clicked, will undo the opt out! Please feel free to forward this to other Yahoo! groups. _____

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The Real X$X
by Mark Weston 08 Feb '04

08 Feb '04

I thought they were a couple of geezers that were on the M25 Spin 3 years ago. I was on the spin then and i know a couple of people here on the list were on it as well. I have a X$X video which i was given on that spin....basically its a short film of the dome.....just looked at it it says watch the british goverment burn seven hundred and fifty six million quid..... X$X 21.3.98.........shit it was that long ago ........I also have the sign that the X$X people hammered into the ground at the end of the spin. Now who or what is the proper X$X. Regards Mark W.

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Re: [KLF] THE REAL X$X
by Raymond Baal 08 Feb '04

08 Feb '04

This should be of interest. Suela, the xdollarx group moderator, just posted this to the group at http://groups.yahoo.co.uk/group/xdollarx about the subject of KLF/X$X. I think she's been 'connected' to Michael K more than most;-)and definitely is the number 1 insider for what's going on although even she says she doesn't know the half of it But quite illuminating on this subject... Ray ------------begin quote------------------- Subject: [xdollarx] Re: X$X/KLF Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 08:10:52 -0000 From: "suelajordan" <suelajordan(a)yahoo.co.uk> Reply-To: xdollarx(a)yahoogroups.com To: xdollarx(a)yahoogroups.com Hmmm..you're not the only one who finds this a bit boring, especially as I know little about the KLF and havent really heard any of their records. Before my time, I think. Either that or The KLF were a bit of a boy's group:-) I just never noticed them at all. I discussed this in the long interviews I did with the 'real' (?) Michael K and he also said that The KLF had pretty much passed him by until their last record and their split and that The Black Room title for the first X$X CD-Rom was pure coincidence. I can't put up the interview section I'm talking of until I see which parts were used by the magazine I sold it to. I sold on an exclusive basis so until I get paid I'm not going to risk it:) Whatever they don't use reverts to my copyright, so if the stuff on KLF was not of interest (which is likely), I'll put it up. But in essence, 'The Black Room' title referred to two things in K's original gameplan. One was a book by Colin Wilson (1971) which is about sensory deprivation experiments using black rooms with no sound or light, AND most importantly, 'The Black Room' at Apple Corps Ltd, Savile Row in the 1960's where The Beatles stored all the unlistened to demos, unread manuscripts et al which followed their launch of the Apple organisation. K said that when he discovered the KLF by hearing 'The White Room' on the comedown after his first 'E' and then reading the gatefold sleeve of the 'Who Killed The Jams?' LP which documents all the press received by the inital KLF outings under that name. He said he recognised fellow travellers and became interested after the fact. Almost simultaneously with that, KLF fans became interested in X$X because of the title of the initial X$X CD-Rom which was well ahead of the pack in 1992 and the X$X/KLF connection went from there. He also mentioned meeting Drummond but I didn't pursue it as I didn't even realise at the time of the interview that Bill Drummond was connected with The KLF. Hope this clears something or other up for you. Regards Suela --- In xdollarx(a)yahoogroups.com, "Brave Hertz" <brave_hertz@y...> wrote: > HAVE TO ADMIT THAT I FIND THIS X$X/KLF LINKAGE THING A BIT BORING! > THERE"S SO MUCH MORE TO LOOK AT THAN WHETHER 'MICHAEL K' IS CONNECTED > TO, PAYING HOMAGE TO, OR OTHERWISE REFERENCING ELELMETNS OF THE KLF > THING. KLF? WHO? > > :-) > KLF WAS DEAD OVER TEN YEARS AGO. > X$X IS LIVE...NOW! ___________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save Â£80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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Re:[KLF] THE REAL X$X
by Raymond Baal 07 Feb '04

07 Feb '04

Both of you are right in a way. There's definitely no attempt to "pretend it's the KLF". That section in "DO NOT SELL AFTER 1999" (bootleg mp3 on the RM Stringer server and other places) which has the phone call takes the piss out of the journalists who kind of jumped to that conclusion waay back. There's a bit that goes as follows: JOURNALIST:"...So is it the KLF? That's what I'm really wondering." X$X 'RECEPTIONIST': "No sir..you're barking up the wrong tree there. I can tell you it's NOT the KLF." JOURNALIST: "Is there any more information I can get? I'd just like to do a story..." X$X 'RECEPTIONIST':"You'd actually have to speak to one of the band members themselves" JOURNALIST: "Is there any way I can reach them" X$X 'RECEPTIONIST': "They're actually in Waverley Station, Edinburgh at the moment. I could give you the number" But Simon's right when he says there's been a regular and persistent undercurrent of KLF-ist theme.It's weird though because unlike some later projects which use KLF-ist 'imagery' or reference or nods, the X$X thing has a vibe of its own which seems to include the KLFism as a natural component. It feels that way to me and a few others have put it more eloquently than I can. It's kind of like whenever people nod to The Beatles. Some of them just look plain-arsed stupid and tedious, others hero-worship, look too and inferior. Occassionally some others manage to incorporate elements in a way which takes the influence forward and actually increases the lot of both themselves and their influence. Also agree that there's more than just a hint of connectivity between someone who could be called 'THE REAL MICHAEL K' (not one of the multiples) and the general "Avant-bard" scene which includes any body from Drummond to Home to Mark Thomas et al. No doubt that B&J have known about Michael K for about a . It's easy to read the signals as BOTH a scam and a hint. Agree with Blys that all of this is probably irrelevant anyway. Ray Simon Glass wrote: For my part, on this list and the other I never insinuated that KLF/X$X are one and the same, I merely pointed out that they supposedly produced a spoof 'Black Room' CD that probably got some B&J fans hot under the collar. There is also no doubt they frequently cross-reference to the KLF, used much similar iconography, fonts etc in the mid 90s ('gig' posters around this time really DID look like some kind of KLF project) and frequently namecheck the KLF on the various websites to this day (an animated GIF that flashes up 'Who Killed the KLF?' among other images, plus the dates 1987, then 1997 etc). So whilst there is little doubt this is a separate project, there is obviously a degree of influence there and indications that perhaps Michael K(s) is acquainted with Jimmy, and perhaps Bill in some way or another. I think some of the old cuttings from Melody Maker etc describing communication with K gave the impression K was happy to perpetuate any association, for instance by saying he knew Michael McElwee and was linked to the Stadium House video. There have also been the occasional cryptic posts on KLF.de that might be X$X-derived, and I still think 'The Alternate Jams' have some kind of X$X connection, personally =) Julian Slinger <blystery(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: A lot of the tracks seem equal parts drum'n'bass and noisy guitar but I don't think you're listening to a speeded-up Bill Drummond!!And the idea that X$X is trying to make it appear it's the KLF seems to me to be ridiculous..it doesn't sound anything like the KLF and there's been enough documention over the years to show that this kind-of KLF/X$X association is just a small part of the game-plan. THE BUILDING (the old version which is linked to from the xdollarx yahoo site) is about the idea of the multiple names, like Michael K and Luther Blissett and Stewart Home and obviously The KLF have an interconnection with all of that Neoist stuff. Somewhere there's a lot of stuff on 'Michael K' as Drummond and cauty's secret collaborator from the beginning but, again, I think this is just people putting 2 and 3 together to make 23. Having said that, he one thing that's always been a mystery is how X$X used the K Foundation's po box address a year before the K Foundation was announced. I think the main thing is that all of the activists in this kind of area are trying to mess with the usual concepts of truth and authenticity so the real truth is that the devil's in the detail and the detail doesnt matter. It's just the message that matters and in this case, I'm glad it's music since the whole intellectual thing kind of washes over me a bit. Blys Jon Doe wrote: On a first glance the music is really tidy. Some tracks are mixing dance and guitars. A lot of the tracks use a formular of a classic breakbeat with a few extra bits to help it along. Some tracks sound like different mixes of others (is this to increase the amount of clips). On the building, the voice sounds like a pitched up Drummond trying to and almost achieving a non drummond sound! Obviously this works the other way and all things pointing at KLF like the font used, track titles etc could be there to make us think it is KLF. What do Drummond and Cauty say about this? Tim, positive void, can you help here? ___________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save Â£80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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