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RE: [ZTT] Sun Electric
by John Goelzer 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

> Sun Electric, a not unfamiliar name in the Electronica / > Ambient world, were signed to ZTT in the mid 90s. > Red Summer was out on promo but never > commercially released. Another sad ZTT story... Ah, yes, I seem to recall seeing the artwork for this at some point, and also remember the "Koskiwicz Mix" by the Orb turning up in Ian Peel's ZTT radio session. > Red Summer was out on promo but never > commercially released. Another sad ZTT story... Anyone got a copy for sale...? If you're at all curious about what Tom & Max are up to these days, they had the inagural release on LX Paterson's BadOrb records as SE Berlin, which included the outstanding track "Shuttle." I think "Shuttle" has since turned up on some compilation and is well worth seeking out. You can hear a lo-fi streaming version of "Shuttle" by going to badorb.com and flipping the little "now playing" audio dealy in the lower-right corner to "bob1a." They also contributed by far the best of five or six remixes of Electric Chairs' "Barbie Girl" on a later BadOrb single (also as SE Berlin). You can hear it on badorb.com as "bob6d." Great stuff. JG

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RE: [ZTT] Sun Electric becomes Marc Almond's rhythm track
by Ian Peel 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

I interviewed Youth last week for my new book and this track came up in conversation. He told me that Inge at the time was Thomas Fehleman's girlfriend. I didn't know that. I mentioned that Red Summer became the backing track for Jacky (which Youth also remixed). He didn't know that! -- Ian Peel http://www.ianpeel.com

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Sun Electric becomes Marc Almond's rhythm track
by Juan Lopez 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

Interestingly enough, as most people know, the rhythm track of Red Summer was later recycled into the rhythm track of Marc Almond's Jacky, produced by ZTT musical director TC Horn. I wonder whatever happened there... >From: "CobraBora" <cobra.bora(a)gmx.net> >Subject: [ZTT] Sun Electric >Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:32:47 +0100 >Sun Electric, a not unfamiliar name in the Electronica / Ambient world, >were >signed to ZTT in the mid 90s. Red Summer was out on promo but never >commercially released. Another sad ZTT story... > >CobraBora _________________________________________________________________ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.yupimsn.com/intl.asp

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RE: [ZTT] Sun Electric
by Shipes, Gary 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Cobra Bora, And Sun Electric featured the exquisite voice of one Inga Humpe (Ideal/Humpe Humpe/Swimming With Sharks/Bamby/2 Raum Wohnung)whose CD "Planet Oz" features certainly one of Trevor Horn's most triumphant, spectacular widescreen ZTT productions ("Riding Into Blue"). Well worth seeking out. Peaceout, Gary in Florida -----Original Message----- From: CobraBora [mailto:cobra.bora@gmx.net] Sent: 3/20/02 3:33 PM To: ztt(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [ZTT] Sun Electric Hi, I have just noticed that Sun Electric's "Red Summer" is included on "Auntie Aubrey's Excursions Beyond The Call Of Duty Part Two", a double CD containing tracks of various artists remixed by The Orb. Sun Electric, a not unfamiliar name in the Electronica / Ambient world, were signed to ZTT in the mid 90s. Red Summer was out on promo but never commercially released. Another sad ZTT story... CobraBora _______________________________________________ ZTT mailing list ZTT(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ztt

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Sun Electric
by CobraBora 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Hi, I have just noticed that Sun Electric's "Red Summer" is included on "Auntie Aubrey's Excursions Beyond The Call Of Duty Part Two", a double CD containing tracks of various artists remixed by The Orb. Sun Electric, a not unfamiliar name in the Electronica / Ambient world, were signed to ZTT in the mid 90s. Red Summer was out on promo but never commercially released. Another sad ZTT story... CobraBora

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Re: [ZTT] ACT - a dearth of information
by Zteven＠aol.com 13 Mar '02

13 Mar '02

I don't know anything about a blacklisting, but around the time you're talking about, ZTT was consumed in legal and personal wrangles with the Art of Noise split, the Holly Johnson and Propaganda contract disputes, and they had a big mess on their hands with Das Psych-oh Rangers (over how the band wanted to be produced and marketed). Plus, I think public taste was sort of changing away from the colorful-situationist kind of pop music (that ZTT was/is so perfect for!) and leaning towards slighty more straightforward bands like That Petrol Emotion and Big Audio Dynamite who were getting popular at the time. So they were up against a lot of things, some of which they brought upon themselves (embarrassingly unfair one-sided contracts) and some was just the nature of the beast (changing taste and the music press' having to kill the old guard in order to champion the new). It wasn't until Seal's "Crazy" came along that the fickle world deemed Trevor Horn and ZTT "ok" again. I know things must change, but I remember feeling like it had all been sort of watered-down and made "pretty" in an almost apologetic way. Or maybe I was projecting. haha. It's probably completely naive to say this but I still wish for the label's old sense of campaign to come back, with new bands and better contracts. It could be great.

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ACT - a dearth of information
by Juan Lopez 13 Mar '02

13 Mar '02

INteresting... I remember finding out I'd missed the programme and being SO annoyed. Anyone have a VHS of it by any chance? Also, Zteven says that everything from ZTT was treated badly by the press around the time... a friend told me (he is a UK record producer) that ZTT were blacked for several years by the Musicians Union in the UK for their treatment of their artists. Can anyone confirm this?? Does that explain why from 86 - 89 nothing really from ZTT charted even though they did release some good stuff??? Also, anyone have any reviews of ACT, Claudia's solo album or Thomas Leer's stuff???? Ant links to ACT sites????? I can't find anything. Sniff... >From: "Phil Stubbs" <phil(a)dreams.u-net.com> > >It wasn't an article as such, but Claudia, Thomas and Stephen Lipson >appeared on an episode of BBC1TV's "Tomorrow's World" where Howard >Stableford (undoubtedly an expert in these things) was discovering >electronic music. One got to see Trevor Horn's acolyte playing around with >the Snobbery and Decay tracks etc etc. That must have been about fifteen >years ago! > >Also, it was either in The Face or Blitz, but a magazine gave Claudia a >Polaroid camera and we saw a dozen or so shots of a day in the life of >Brucken circa Act. I recall it all being a little pretentious. > >I'm clutching at straws, I know. > >Phil > >-----Original Message----- >From: ztt-admin(a)mailman.xmission.com >[mailto:ztt-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Zteven(a)aol.com >Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 19:45 >To: ztt(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: [ZTT] Act and Articles > > >The only article I ever saw on Act was in Blitz magazine prior to the >release >of "Snobbery and Decay." It was a really short interview with Claudia and >Thomas, and they were just saying how Act was going to be a warmer sound >from >Propaganda. They also talked about how their inspiration for the project >stemmed from Cabaret and Las Vegas excess. The article was printed over the >photo from the S&D 12" of Claudia (spiked hair and unibrow) leaning against >Thomas with the two people in the background. That's all I recall ever >seeing >apart from some slightly unkind album and singles reviews. I remember when >the album finally came out, anything to do with ZTT seemed to be met by the >music press with skepticism (at best) so I assumed that's why there wasn't >much promotion. I remember writing to ZTT around that time and receiving an >8x10 Act promo photo of Claudia that had printed at the bottom, "Grace >Under >Pressure" which I thought under the circumstances was hilarious and >brilliant. So anyway.. Anyone know of any other articles? _________________________________________________________________ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.yupimsn.com/intl.asp

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Act and Articles
by Zteven＠aol.com 10 Mar '02

10 Mar '02

The only article I ever saw on Act was in Blitz magazine prior to the release of "Snobbery and Decay." It was a really short interview with Claudia and Thomas, and they were just saying how Act was going to be a warmer sound from Propaganda. They also talked about how their inspiration for the project stemmed from Cabaret and Las Vegas excess. The article was printed over the photo from the S&D 12" of Claudia (spiked hair and unibrow) leaning against Thomas with the two people in the background. That's all I recall ever seeing apart from some slightly unkind album and singles reviews. I remember when the album finally came out, anything to do with ZTT seemed to be met by the music press with skepticism (at best) so I assumed that's why there wasn't much promotion. I remember writing to ZTT around that time and receiving an 8x10 Act promo photo of Claudia that had printed at the bottom, "Grace Under Pressure" which I thought under the circumstances was hilarious and brilliant. So anyway.. Anyone know of any other articles? In a message dated 3/10/02 10:45:45 AM, ztthead(a)hotmail.com writes: << This is definitely worth having just for the demo version of pmachinery... it's surprising how complete the demo was and how little work was necessary in terms of production in the ZTT version. I hope that there are still some other gems hidden in the master cupboard. Anyone have or heard any of the demos done by Propaganda or the recordings by Claudia with Andrew Poppy and Andrew Humphreys? Anyone have any good articles about ACT that I can read? Please email me links privately. Thanks! >>

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M: SECRET TAPES OF DR.MABUSE
by Juan Lopez 10 Mar '02

10 Mar '02

This is definitely worth having just for the demo version of pmachinery... it's surprising how complete the demo was and how little work was necessary in terms of production in the ZTT version. I hope that there are still some other gems hidden in the master cupboard. Anyone have or heard any of the demos done by Propaganda or the recordings by Claudia with Andrew Poppy and Andrew Humphreys? Anyone have any good articles about ACT that I can read? Please email me links privately. Thanks! >From: TheMgnt(a)aol.com >M: The SECRET TAPES OF DR.MABUSE >Official 2001 Austrian promo-only 6-track CD featuring pre >Propaganda demo versions and independently released by >founder band members Andreas Thein & Ralf Dorper. Includes >remastered versions of 4 original demos plus 2 new mixes of >Dr Mabuse - in digipak sleeve & limited edition of 1000 copies !! _________________________________________________________________ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.yupimsn.com/intl.asp

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SECRET TAPES OF DR.MABUSE
by TheMgnt＠aol.com 10 Mar '02

10 Mar '02

I'm not a Propaganda fan but this popped in my mailbox recently. Thought I'd pass it on to the list in case someone didn't know about it... -paul M: The SECRET TAPES OF DR.MABUSE Official 2001 Austrian promo-only 6-track CD featuring pre Propaganda demo versions and independently released by founder band members Andreas Thein & Ralf Dorper. Includes remastered versions of 4 original demos plus 2 new mixes of Dr Mabuse - in digipak sleeve & limited edition of 1000 copies !! tracklisting: 1. Disziplin (early demo version 1) 3:36 2. Sunde (early demo version) 3:58 3. Disziplin (early demo version 2) 7:23 4. Sylvians Machine (demo version with DAVID SYLVIAN on keyboards) 3:36 5. Dr Mabuse (Remixed by Rei$$dorf Force) 7:13 6. Dr Mabuse (Remixed by Eric D.Clark) 6:54 Currently in rotation: Persuasions Sing... The Beatles; Joey Ramone - Dont Worry About Me; John Lennon - Anthology (edited); Harry Nilsson - Son of Dracula (ST)

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