- zorn-list - mailman.xmission.com

Re: Best Music Gifts
by tyrone d.c.washington 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

unfortunately things tend to go like this: since i've worked in a record shop for years & years NOBODY ever buys me music gifts anymore...i try & try but no-one dares...('we don't know what you have already','you got so much already' etc.)....and giving people lists of records to buy just isn't the same thing than getting something nice out of the blue...so i'll usually get something else. sob sob. but as a young man, i remember buying lps for my parents, lps that i wanted to get myself! sneaky lil' bastard, i was. and maybe still am. -brother tyrone- On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Samerivertwice(a)aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/19/02 2:02:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, crumpw(a)bellsouth.net writes: Hey List, it's the holidays. What's the best gift of music you ever got? Wm. Crump It's a toss up between the complete "You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore" series from Frank Zappa, the "Sound & Vision" box set from Bowie or an autographed CD from Elvis Costello. Can you tell that my friend worked for Rykodisc? Other cool holiday music gifts: Tickets to see the Black Sabbath reunion show in Boston a few of years back The Billy Bragg/Wilco documentary "Man in the Sand" "Best of Broadside 1962-1988" box set A framed photo of me and Elvis Costello backstage The book version of Ken Burns' Jazz ______________________________________________________ Discs I'm listening to at work: Jimi Hendrix -- Band of Gypsys Ben Folds Live Uncle Tupelo -- Still Feel Gone Elvis Costello -- Might Like A Rose Richard Thompson -- KFOG 3/16/01 Wadad Leo Smith -- Reflectativity ------------------------------------------------- Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com

1 0

Re: Best of 2002
by Jim Flannery 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

Dave wrote to zorn: DT> Best read of the year: The Mixerman/Bitch Slap chronicles: DT> http://www.prosoundweb.com/recording/mm/week1/mm.php. I don't care if DT> it's fact or fiction, everyone ever involved in the production of a DT> record, hell, anyone who ever *listened* to a record, needs to read DT> this. Thank you for posting this ... I'm just starting Day 14 & wondering if I'm ever going to sleep tonight. This thing needs to be published in real print so I can use it for christmas presents. -- Jim Flannery newgrange(a)talmanassociates.com When you can't give anything, you can also receive nothing. Through giving, you also receive. You can never stop giving. When you have nothing more to give, you're dead. -- Mustafa Tettey Addy np: Rowe/MÃŒller/Sugimoto, _The World Turned Upside Down_ nr: Harry Mathews, _The Journalist_ (ok, so I'm distracted right now)

1 0

McCartney
by Tosh 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

Is there any truth to the story (and I think I may have read this from the recent Rolling Stone) that during the Beatles Anthology project Paul wanted 'solo songwriting credit' on certain Beatles songs i.e. Yesterday, etc.? But was vetoed by Ringo, Yoko and George. And to be fair I maybe wrong with this information. -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com

1 0

Re: Speaking of McCartney...
by Kurt Gottschalk 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

>McCartney has no problem with Lennon having primary authorship on the >Lennon songs. He just wishes that the Lennon estate would have the grace >to allow him primary authorship on the songs that he wrote. which i understand. and again, i wish someone of his stature and success (financial and sometimes artistic) would have the good grace to leave it alone. he gets to be a beatle for life. that's more important than setting a record most everyone knows anyway straight. >As for the "What a drag" statement, imagine this scenario: You have just >learned that your primary collaborator and best friend has been >murdered. You receive a phone call from a journalist to inform you and >get an instant reaction that is then splashed into worldwide headlines. >What are the odds that the first words out of your mouth will be >something profound? wouldn't ask for something profound, but would have appreciated something that sounded a little less hollow. >Glass houses, again. really? what does that mean? that celebrities are above reproach? what glass house do i live in and, for that matter, what stone did i throw? it's interesting to me how paul mccartney seems to be a raw nerve to a few people here. i haven't really criticized him, i don't think. i've just said that i wish someone in his position would be a bit more an ambassador for a time (and phenomenon) in rock, a little less petty. 'yesterday' is well enough documented as his song. i think it's shortsighted of him to not realize that he'll look like a graverobber if he starts messing with a phrase as key to rock history as 'lennon/mccartney'. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

6 7

Secret Chiefs 3 news
by A 19 Dec '02

19 Dec '02

>From midheaven.com: Mimicry Records plans to release three-- that's not a typo, three-- CDs by the label's flagship band Secret Chiefs 3 in 2003. Actually a single meta-album in three parts, The Book of Truth will cut the year into four-month segments starting in April, a colossal effort even for a band as ambitious as the SC3, but Mimicry gunmen will lay down the necessary and relentless wall of cover fire on their behalf. Make sure you're on the right side of this one, mercenary, because a tour, maybe two, in the second half of 2003 will advance The Book of Truth deep into enemy territory-- namely yours. Mimicry is also in cahoots with the macabre, obsessive, extremely talented, and just-plain-fucked Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum, whose first Mimicry Release is slated for late 2003. Having sprouted a deranged cult following over the past few years, this band's live shows are the stuff of legend, and their CDs masterpieces of self-production on par with Olivia Tremor Control and Mr. Bungle. After you swallow that next bite of Krispy Kreme, say "work ethic" and think good thoughts about STGM. Last year they hand-assembled almost 7,000 digipacks (yes, seven thousand-- this paragraph has been proof-read and fact-checked) and then sold them during a six-month tour. They'll be doing a late summer tour with label-mates Estradasphere, who just happen to be releasing their new album on Mimicry in August. Sweet, sweet conspiracy. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? InformaciÃ³n de Estados Unidos y AmÃ©rica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. VisÃtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com

1 0

Best of 2002
by Dave Trenkel 19 Dec '02

19 Dec '02

in no particular order, except #1 is definitely my top record of the year: Cinematic Orchestra: Every Day: Amazing disc, every time I try to describe it it ends up sounding less good than it really is, but here's an attempt. Imagine Gil Evans arranging for Portishead, but with Fontella Bass on vocals (she's actually on the record). Downtempo groove jazz/electronica, but done so much better than most of the genre, one of the very few records ever without a single note out of place. My wife loves this record, so I must have heard it a few hundred times this year, and I still like it a lot. Joni Mitchell: Travelogue: I just got this, but it hasn't left my player for the last week. Beautiful stuff, in particular, the arrangement and her performance of Woodstock (not exactly a song that I thought would still have relevance today) is worth the price in itself. Tabla Beat Science: Live in San Francisco at Stern Grove. OK, so I'm an unrepentant Laswell apologist, but this set just burns from beginning to end. DJ Spooky: Optometry. Another jazz meets electronics project, and possibly the best thing Spooky's done thus far. Tim Berne: Science Friction: I haven't ordered Open Coma yet, which is why it didn't make my list, but this quartet set (w/Ducret/Taborn/Rainey) just flat out rocks! Taborn in particular sounds great here, once again he and Jamie Saft top my list of interesting new keyboardists. Amon Tobin: Out from Out Where: Tobin is still exploring the same territory, drum 'n bass constructed out of jazz and exotica records from the 50's/60's, but just keeps getting better.The Nutcracker suite even makes an appearance here, in case you're looking for new seasonal music. Blackalicious: Blazing Arrow: In a just world, this would have topped the hip-hop charts, it's smart. positive without being preachy, funny and has Gil Scott Heron at least sounding coherent. I sell a copy of this almost every time I play it in the store, one of the few discs that both the hip hop kids and their parents dig. Replicant Rumba Rockers: A Rather Interesting Mix: One of the hundred or so Burnt Friedman/Atom Heart related discs this year, I swear, these guys are almost as productive as Laswell in his prime. This disc takes on Latin pop, and the quality of the sampling/collaging approaches Amon Tobin, but with a sense of humor, just the right balance of cheese and seriousness. Best read of the year: The Mixerman/Bitch Slap chronicles: http://www.prosoundweb.com/recording/mm/week1/mm.php. I don't care if it's fact or fiction, everyone ever involved in the production of a record, hell, anyone who ever *listened* to a record, needs to read this.

1 0

vida blue remixed?
by Ari Shechter 19 Dec '02

19 Dec '02

hey there, im wondering if anyone knows anything about this (vida blue remixes). for those of you who dont know, vida blue was phish's keyboard player's experiment with techno/electronics. they released a self-titled album this year, apparently there is also a remix ep, featuring remixes by dj olive, bill laswell and jamie saft?? anyone? thanks, ari

2 1

Michiyo Yagi
by Caleb T. Deupree 19 Dec '02

19 Dec '02

With all the top 10 talk, I've started on another cycle through the Japan Improv set, and I was very impressed today with Disk 8, which is all koto and shamisen. One of the koto players is Michiyo Yagi, and as I perused the japan improv web site, I see that she has an album on Tzadik. Anyone heard this? Any comments? A short trawl through her discography reveals a group called Kokoo, two koto and one shakuhachi. One of their albums (http://www.japanimprov.com/indies/sevenseas/supernova.html) contains songs by Hendrix, Led Zep, Zappa (Peaches en Regalia!), Pink Floyd (One of these Days) and the Beatles. Anyone heard *this*? Forced doesn't carry this, anyone know anywhere that does? -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree(a)erinet.com

1 0

Re: Best Music Gifts
by Caleb T. Deupree 19 Dec '02

19 Dec '02

At 12:59 PM 12/19/02 -0600, William Crump wrote: >Hey List, it's the holidays. What's the best gift of music you ever got? >From my parents in 1978: Robin Maconie's book on Stockhausen. Listening to Stockhausen was my personal turning point down the path from strange music (Zappa, Crimson) to *really* strange music, and Maconie's book helped me immeasurably. -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree(a)erinet.com

1 0

Re: skeleton key/sleepytime gorilla museum
by serge dautricourt 19 Dec '02

19 Dec '02

I saw this show too in san jose a couple of nights ago, and had pretty much the same impressions as Jorge. STGM were really good. all excellent musicians, and an especially great live act. Go see them if you can! Skeleton Key sounded just like the early 90's grunge bands to me. A little Nivana here, a little Soundgarden and STP there, (all complete with the worlbley guitar intos and predictable loud jams:)). Fun for me for nostalgia reasons, but not that great overall. serge >From: Jorge Gallegos <abductor77(a)yahoo.com> >To: zorn list <zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com> >Subject: skeleton key/sleepytime gorilla museum >Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:23:03 -0800 (PST) > >Caught the Skeleton Key/Sleepytime Gorilla Museum show this weekend. >Skeleton Key was a dissapointment. If you would take away the found metal >banging you end up with what sounds to me as very conventional >"alternative rock". Had to leave the room after a couple of songs. >Meanwhile, Art Rock is alive and well with Sleepytime. There's a fine RIO >slant on their music but with a more aggressive attack. Reminds me of the >Art Bears or Thinking Plague with some Crimson power chords and a Bay Area >sensibility (Caroliner, Thinking Fellers, etc.). Carla (from Tin Hat Trio) >is phenomenal. She was flying on the violin from the opening song >(blissful) on. Great stage presence, quite theatrical. Prog rock without >the cheese. Their album doesn't completely do it for me. Most of it is >great except for some moments that border on "rap metal" (the most horrible >hybrid I can think of), but even these sounded good rearranged live. Their >new material was superb and I was told that their next album will be out >on Web of Mimicry, home of the astounding Secret Chiefs 3. > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

1 0